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  • Husker36
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    • 12-02-08
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    #1
    Nebraska's next coach.....
    So Nebraska will fire their coach on Saturday.
    Scott Frost most likely will be the next coach.

    Here is my question.....
    IF UCF is still undefeated don't you think that Frost would want to coach them in the bowl game? Typically the new coach comes on to help with recruiting. I just cant see him not coaching that game! Thoughts?
  • Husker36
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    • 12-02-08
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    #2
    As far as Fridays game vs Iowa..... which Iowa team will show up? The team that lost to Purdue or the team that thumped Ohio State?
    Iowa coaching staff gets big bonuses if they win 2 more games. Iowa HATES Nebraska and enjoys thumping them when they can.

    Which Nebraska team will show up? Well......they have SUCKED in every game. Their ONLY hope is to "win one for the coach".
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    • Husker36
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      • 12-02-08
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      #3
      Good think Nebraska has the money...... still paying Pelini and the AD they just fired. Now they will have to pay Riley 7 million.
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      • Ralphie Halves
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        • 12-13-09
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        #4
        Originally posted by Husker36
        So Nebraska will fire their coach on Saturday.
        Scott Frost most likely will be the next coach.

        Here is my question.....
        IF UCF is still undefeated don't you think that Frost would want to coach them in the bowl game? Typically the new coach comes on to help with recruiting. I just cant see him not coaching that game! Thoughts?
        You're all over the place today Husker.

        Coaches do this all the time -- abandon their kids in their biggest game so they can get recruiting at their new school asap. Often they do leave coordinators there to run the show, so it doesn't always matter for the old school.

        As for Nebraska, nobody knows how this would affect things. I avoid betting teams like this completely after the switch. Why would you? You're basing everything on a complete guess. No real angle, too many variables.
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        • Husker36
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          • 12-02-08
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          #5
          Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
          You're all over the place today Husker.

          Coaches do this all the time -- abandon their kids in their biggest game so they can get recruiting at their new school asap. Often they do leave coordinators there to run the show, so it doesn't always matter for the old school.

          As for Nebraska, nobody knows how this would affect things. I avoid betting teams like this completely after the switch. Why would you? You're basing everything on a complete guess. No real angle, too many variables.
          I know TYPICALLY a coach leaves but its extremely rare that a coach leaves an undefeated team. It's gotta be hard to walk away like that.
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          • Ralphie Halves
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            • 12-13-09
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            #6
            Yeah, it's hard to walk away from any program where you've invested so much time and emotion, but if it's Frost going to Nebraska, it will go away quickly I'd imagine.

            What Frost did was pretty remarkable. I can't blame him for riding that momentum into his dream job (if that's really what it is -- isn't always).
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            • BigdaddyQH
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              • 07-13-09
              • 19530

              #7
              You are assuming that Frost would leave a team that may be going to a New Years 6 game to go to a school that probably has less of a chance of getting there than his current team has. Nebraska is really bad, and their recruiting is taking a major hit. Who in their right mind wants to spend their winters in Lincoln Nebraska? On top of all that, next year's cross over games are home against Michigan State, at Michigan and at Ohio State. Guaranteed 0-3 and that is without playing any Big 10 West teams.
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              • Ralphie Halves
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                • 12-13-09
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                #8
                Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                You are assuming that Frost would leave a team that may be going to a New Years 6 game to go to a school that probably has less of a chance of getting there than his current team has. Nebraska is really bad, and their recruiting is taking a major hit. Who in their right mind wants to spend their winters in Lincoln Nebraska? On top of all that, next year's cross over games are home against Michigan State, at Michigan and at Ohio State. Guaranteed 0-3 and that is without playing any Big 10 West teams.
                There's truth here, people just want to up and assume Frost's #1 goal in life is to coach his alma mater. This isn't always the case. Husker might have more inside info than we do though.

                That being said, from a monetary and resources standpoint, Nebraska would be a better choice. UCF has a recruiting advantage, and that's about it. Nebraska really at a disadvantage these days on that front. Nobody playing college ball now remembers when Nebraska was a marquee program, nor do they give a shit. Frost has shown he has the scheme game down, you'd have to be really patient with him though while he gets his kids in there -- like more patient that you probably want to be.

                He'd have to get mediocre talent there first before building a winning program again and THEN use that to lure the bigger fish there, and THEN find a way to beat the elites in the Big 10. He won't have a clear coaching advantage over the Meyers/Harbaughs/Dantonios even Fitzgeralds of the world. Nobody plays defense in CUSA, they almost all can play D in the Big 10. Even fallen programs like Rutgers and Purdue are rebounding.

                It would be a great get for Nebraska, but I'm telling you, you're really gonna have to learn to play the long game here with him. You didn't learn this with Pellini, and it cost you.
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                • Husker36
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                  • 12-02-08
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                  #9
                  Next year will be rough no matter who coaches
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                  • Ralphie Halves
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                    • 12-13-09
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                    #10
                    Depending on how soon you get a QB, the turn-around can be quicker though. Look at what Mendenhall is doing at a recruiting purgatory like Virginia. Got his QB though, and they climbed out of that hole a lot sooner than people (me) thought.
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                    • POISON
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                      • 10-30-08
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                      #11
                      Nebraska is awful. ANY new coach would be an upgrade to the current fiasco..........
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                      • BigdaddyQH
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                        • 07-13-09
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                        #12
                        Does anyone in here have the slightest clue as to why Nebraska hired a perennial loser like Mike Riley to begin with. I said at the time that this move would be a disaster for Nebraska, and it was. Was it a money thing?
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                        • QuantumLeap
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                          • 08-22-08
                          • 6880

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Husker36
                          As far as Fridays game vs Iowa..... which Iowa team will show up? The team that lost to Purdue or the team that thumped Ohio State?
                          Iowa coaching staff gets big bonuses if they win 2 more games. Iowa HATES Nebraska and enjoys thumping them when they can.

                          Which Nebraska team will show up? Well......they have SUCKED in every game. Their ONLY hope is to "win one for the coach".
                          I'm like you, I have too many questions about both teams so I'm not betting this game.

                          Don't forget, Nebraska played decently against Penn State last week.
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                          • Ralphie Halves
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                            Does anyone in here have the slightest clue as to why Nebraska hired a perennial loser like Mike Riley to begin with. I said at the time that this move would be a disaster for Nebraska, and it was. Was it a money thing?
                            93-80 at Oregon State, and you have to average down there because despite the money they have, it still pales in comparison to most of the other Pac 12 schools, especially once Nike entered the fray. I don't think anyone is ever going to make that school prominent again. So a pretty good coach overall. May have wanted to see what he could do with a bigger program. Plus, he was the polar opposite of Bo Pelini in personality, and even though they let him go too early, I'm sure there were some people in the admin who were sick of Pelini's attitude.

                            Riley almost always had a good QB at OSU too, and he just couldn't get one at Nebraska. Did him in.

                            Just guesses. Was worth the risk IMO. Sometimes they don't pay off.
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                            • QuantumLeap
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                              • 08-22-08
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                              You are assuming that Frost would leave a team that may be going to a New Years 6 game to go to a school that probably has less of a chance of getting there than his current team has. Nebraska is really bad, and their recruiting is taking a major hit. Who in their right mind wants to spend their winters in Lincoln Nebraska? On top of all that, next year's cross over games are home against Michigan State, at Michigan and at Ohio State. Guaranteed 0-3 and that is without playing any Big 10 West teams.
                              Who would want to spend their winters in Lincoln, Nebraska? If it would be anyone it would be Scott Frost, that's who. He grew up in Nebraska and won the National Championship with them. He has many good memories with them.

                              If anyone knows the tradition with Nebraska it's that the school is a big deal throughout the state. I would have to think this was Frost's end game all along after starting his coaching career.
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                              • QuantumLeap
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                                • 08-22-08
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                Does anyone in here have the slightest clue as to why Nebraska hired a perennial loser like Mike Riley to begin with. I said at the time that this move would be a disaster for Nebraska, and it was. Was it a money thing?
                                I said the same thing since I felt Riley wasn't a good fit and had limited success at Oregon State. Nebraska A. D. Eichorst has a history of hiring underperforming coaches and that's why he's out at Nebraska. They should take Pelini's salary out of Eichorst's future bonuses since he was the one who gave Pelini an extension.
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                                • Husker36
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                                  • 12-02-08
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                  Does anyone in here have the slightest clue as to why Nebraska hired a perennial loser like Mike Riley to begin with. I said at the time that this move would be a disaster for Nebraska, and it was. Was it a money thing?
                                  Nebraska's former AD was clueless about football. He saw Riley as a coach that could develop talent and could do more with less talent. He also liked that Riley was "a nice guy"...... trying to get away from the image Pelini had. Money has nothing to do with it. Nebraska has plenty of $$$$.
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                                  • BigdaddyQH
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                                    • 07-13-09
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Husker36
                                    Nebraska's former AD was clueless about football. He saw Riley as a coach that could develop talent and could do more with less talent. He also liked that Riley was "a nice guy"...... trying to get away from the image Pelini had. Money has nothing to do with it. Nebraska has plenty of $$$$.
                                    I have to disagree with that. If Nebraska has plenty of money, how come their Head Coaches in both Football and Hoops are less than adequate? Nebraska has not had a football team to legitimately challenge for the Big 10 title. They played in the CC game once and were destroyed. Their basketball team has only made the big dance 7 times and only one one game in those 7 appearances. If Nebraska were serious about any sport, they sure have not shown it over the past 4 or 5 years. I do not think they come close to having the money that the Top 25 teams in the nation have.
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                                    • Husker36
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                                      • 12-02-08
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                      I have to disagree with that. If Nebraska has plenty of money, how come their Head Coaches in both Football and Hoops are less than adequate? Nebraska has not had a football team to legitimately challenge for the Big 10 title. They played in the CC game once and were destroyed. Their basketball team has only made the big dance 7 times and only one one game in those 7 appearances. If Nebraska were serious about any sport, they sure have not shown it over the past 4 or 5 years. I do not think they come close to having the money that the Top 25 teams in the nation have.
                                      Well you are wrong. The money is there. Money is not the issue. Bad choices. Bad hires.
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                                      • Seattle Slew
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                                        • 01-02-06
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                                        #20
                                        I think Brian Kelly left Cinci for Notre Dame when they were 12-0 before the bowl game. They got blown out in that bowl game by Florida.

                                        Originally posted by Husker36
                                        I know TYPICALLY a coach leaves but its extremely rare that a coach leaves an undefeated team. It's gotta be hard to walk away like that.
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                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                          • 03-11-11
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                                          #21
                                          You better hope that Frost wants to coach at his alma mater because that is all you have going for you. Nebraska is not that great of a job anymore and none of the recruits these days remember the husker's golden years.

                                          Frost will be offered much better jobs than Nebraska.
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                                          • Husker36
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                                            • 12-02-08
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                            You better hope that Frost wants to coach at his alma mater because that is all you have going for you. Nebraska is not that great of a job anymore and none of the recruits these days remember the husker's golden years.

                                            Frost will be offered much better jobs than Nebraska.
                                            Its already a done deal
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                                            • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Husker36
                                              Its already a done deal
                                              if so, you better thank your lucky stars
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