Purdue at Hawaii

BuddyBear · 11-19-06, 01:41 PM

if Hawaii opens up anything less than -7 hammer it...less than -10 hammer it....really after that it gets tougher to say but Purdue is a major major fraud....they are horrendous.

bigboydan · 11-19-06, 01:44 PM

They are going to need an adding machine to keep track of that score.

The only thing that scares me about the Rainbow Warriors in this game is the fact that they have already accepted a bowl Bid to stay at home.

thezbar · 11-19-06, 02:59 PM

Got to go with the rainbows here.anything under 10 points and I'm laying it.Can't see a focused effort from the boilermakers.How is the purdue pass defense?

hawk 5 · 11-19-06, 03:05 PM

Purdue's defense is bad. Alot of points will be scored here.

BigD · 11-19-06, 04:21 PM

Hawii alway kills the big ten in this game at the end of the year

Razz · 11-19-06, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by bigboydan

The only thing that scares me about the Rainbow Warriors in this game is the fact that they have already accepted a bowl Bid to stay at home.

Hell, they did that three weeks before this game. If either team comes out flat for this game, it will be the Purdue kids that spend all week partying in Hawaii.

Razz · 11-19-06, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by hawk 5

This one should be on ESPN, ha? Over is 75.

If Purdue scores 20, it goes over that.

hawk 5 · 11-19-06, 07:08 PM

Hawaii-16.5 opening line. Sure wish it would have been 10 like you was thinking BB.

Wassymac · 11-19-06, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by hawk 5

Hawaii-16.5 opening line. Sure wish it would have been 10 like you was thinking BB.

I don't believe it will matter Hawk. Tiller is notorious for letting his players "enjoy the moment" on bowl trips or a meaningless trip such as this. I honestly think you'll see Purdue try out a few things (maybe even give the frosh a run at QB) they normally wouldn't since their bowl fate won't be determined by this game. Purdue will treat this like the exhibition game that it is and Hawaii will treat it like a second bowl game.

I'm a Purdue homer and apologist and expect another Hawaii rout next Saturday.

bigboydan · 11-19-06, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by BigD

Hawii alway kills the big ten in this game at the end of the year

I doubt Wisconsin agrees with that bud.

BuddyBear · 11-19-06, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by hawk 5

Hawaii-16.5 opening line. Sure wish it would have been 10 like you was thinking BB.

I wish too....-16.5 is about right. Some guys I talk with are high on this game and I may make a small play but if Purdue covers it will be of the backdoor variety and nothing else.

pags11 · 11-20-06, 02:54 AM

I'm on Hawaii...Purdue is getting taken to the shed...say what you want about Big 10 vs. WAC...not only is Brennan a throwing threat, but he has excellent mobiity (ran for a TD last night)...how in the hell is Purdue going to cover Bess, Dickerson, Grice-Mullens, Rivers, Sample and Mock?...oh yeah, if they somehow do that on a couple of possesions, who's gonna tackle bowling ball Nat Illoa?...Hawaii's defense is much improved this year as well...Purdue will come to party, Painter will throw a couple of picks and be sacked about 7 times...Purdue's running game will get stuffed...I don't lay 17 points...like ever...(only other time I have this year is when Nevada played NMSU)...I'm laying 17 here....

Razz · 11-20-06, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by pags11

I'm on Hawaii...Purdue is getting taken to the shed...

Down here in Alabama, we say behind the shed.
Yeah, this is over quickly. Hawaii's punter won't step foot on the field until after the game.

pags11 · 11-20-06, 03:00 AM

we don't have sheds out here...lol...

Wassymac · 11-20-06, 10:03 AM

Honestly this line opened higher than I thought it would and really seems to be begging for Purdue $$. This has been circled on my calendar for many weeks and I added a circle once Purdue became bowl eligible. Even if you take emotion and home field out of it I'm not sure I would play Purdue at +17.

Hawaii O vs Purdue D - All of Purdue's recent wins have come against teams with bad offenses that also don't know how to win. Indiana is a god-awful team on both sides of the ball (outside of the Lewis/Hardy combo) and racked up 500 yards of total O on Saturday. I believe coming into the game they were 10th in the Big Ten in offense. If Hawaii can block Spencer than its hard to imagine Brennan not racking up his typical 400+ passing yards. Purdue has given it up in the air all season long and there is no reason for that to change here. There have been signs of improvement but mainly in the turnovers created area. They will be facing an offense that won't be so kind to them this time. Brennan has thrown only 8 ints on the season.

Purdue O vs Hawaii D - Wow has Painter regressed and he hasn't got much help from his receiving core (If you're out there Lymon...feel free to wake up and actually use your talent). He's been so inaccurate the last 4 or 5 weeks that when he throws it on target the receivers are caught off guard and drop it anyway. I'm not giving up on him but I do have my doubts that he's the guy going forward for Purdue. If you go back and look at game by game (the entire season) you'll notice a trend that Painter is a very slow starter. A slow start against Hawaii will be deadly this time around (as it was against Iowa) as Purdue will find themselves down 2 TDs early in this one. At that point Coach Tiller abandons a bit of his game-plan and begins throwing every down...half of those being drive stalling incompletions. What do incompletions do??? Stop the clock and save time for more Brennan TDs. Only way Purdue keeps it close is if they don't abandon the run as the Rainbows are definitely vulnerable there but I don't believe Tiller will do that (we'll get into coaching next). Hawaii has shown the last few weeks they are more than capable of at-least slowing down a decent offense.

Apples and Oranges - Just think about each teams last opponent. Indiana vs SJST and I'll take San Jose every time...Hawaii completely dismantled a team on both sides of the ball that is head and shoulders better than the Indiana squad Purdue beat this weekend.

Coaching & Emotion - Everything up above is enough for me to bet Hawaii but this is the best part of the play IMO. Tiller loves for his kids to have a good time on bowl trips and the majority time they come out slow and not focused. He really doesn't seem to care as much about winning Bowl games as he does getting there. Well now we're talking about a game that doesn't matter at all (its exempt and the Bowls are not to take it into consideration) in paradise on a holiday weekend. This is a vacation for the football team and coaching staff...nothing more. Tiller will just have fun with it and leave game planning out of it for the most part. Instead of trying to win the game by running it down Hawaii's throat he'll try to match June Jones blow for blow in the passing game for the heck of it. As for the players...they just beat their rival...seem content with the 8-4 season and are ready to party with some hula dancers. As for Jones...the best part about betting Hawaii and the game going according to plan the first 3 quarters is that the chance for a backdoor cover are slim to none. Hawaii will not take the foot off the gas until its over...evidence is the 3 TD passes in the FOURTH QUARTER against SJST when they were already up 20. I can't imagine Purdue caring much about the result of this game but I'd imagine the Rainbows would love nothing more than to humiliate a Big Ten school just coming to the island for a good time.

nevadaside · 11-20-06, 10:34 AM

With what Hawaii did to SJST, after SJST stayed within 3 of Boise (even though SJST was at home & all), I'm with all of you here on the big Hawaiin wave that is going to pound Purdue.

pags11 · 11-21-06, 05:30 AM

wassymac,

that's some damn good analysis and I agree with all of it...excellent stuff...

Wassymac · 11-22-06, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by pags11

wassymac,

that's some damn good analysis and I agree with all of it...excellent stuff...

Thanks Pags. I also want to add that Purdue accepted a bid to the Champs Bowl in Orlando.

hawk 5 · 11-22-06, 09:45 PM

It dosn't look like ESPN or any station I can get will televise this game. Pisses me off!

pags11 · 11-23-06, 05:34 AM

I don't like it when their games are televised nationally...then we can't have the refs be as shady...

hawk 5 · 11-23-06, 08:27 AM

Lol

pags11 · 11-24-06, 01:39 AM

you know it's true hawk...lol...GL buddy...

hawk 5 · 11-24-06, 08:19 AM

As long as Hawaii covers the 17, how don't matter.

yukster · 11-24-06, 09:45 AM

It's on ESPN Gameplan

bigboydan · 11-24-06, 10:28 AM

I see 5 Purdue players won't be playing in this game. I guess the party last weekend got way out of hand, because one report had one player getting a stun gun used on him.

hawk 5 · 11-24-06, 02:21 PM

Thanks yuckster, might do that.

pags11 · 11-25-06, 02:51 AM

yeah, I read that a couple of days ago...thanks dan...

nosuzieno · 11-25-06, 04:47 PM

Purdue coach Tiller on Purdue's game with UH which was originally contracted in 1994 and when he arrived at West Lafayette, Ind. in 1997, "I told Morgan Burke that we didn't want to play that game. And that was when we had an 11-game schedule. So, it got pushed back. I told him again, as late as last winter, that we shouldn't be playing this game. Of course, by then the 12th game had been added. He asked what we should do and I told him to call them (UH) up and tell them, 'We're not coming. We're just not coming. Go find another opponent. "
This is a 13 hour trip for Purdue that takes them away from family during the holiday and if we are reading what the coach is saying, you can bet the players are too. This will be nothing but a vacation for Purdue to celebrate their heading to the Champs Bowl game.
Rainbows BIG!

moses millsap · 11-25-06, 05:32 PM

Even with the high total, the over may be a solid choice, perhaps the 1H over more than the full game.

onlooker · 11-26-06, 02:44 AM

42-35 Hawaii wins it. Score was only 17-0 at halftime, they made it a exciting second half.

pags11 · 11-26-06, 03:02 AM

boy, a lot of us were wrong about this one...

Blade2 · 11-26-06, 06:35 PM

Hawaii has a new problem. Michigan State is attempting to cancel a game at Hawaii in 2007, just as Purdue claims it tried. Before getting ranked, the talk was "Who has Hawaii played? They have not played anyone from the big conferences." So if Michigan State and other Big 10 teams are dodging Hawaii now, how can Hawaii gain legitimacy?

Illusion · 11-26-06, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by Blade2

Hawaii has a new problem. Michigan State is attempting to cancel a game at Hawaii in 2007, just as Purdue claims it tried. Before getting ranked, the talk was "Who has Hawaii played? They have not played anyone from the big conferences." So if Michigan State and other Big 10 teams are dodging Hawaii now, how can Hawaii gain legitimacy?

I doubt the game gets canceled. I know the game is one year away, but they make these schedules years in advance and Hawaii would probably be hard pressed to find another opponent.

BTW, welcome to SBR.

Razz · 11-27-06, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by Blade2

Hawaii has a new problem. Michigan State is attempting to cancel a game at Hawaii in 2007, just as Purdue claims it tried. Before getting ranked, the talk was "Who has Hawaii played? They have not played anyone from the big conferences." So if Michigan State and other Big 10 teams are dodging Hawaii now, how can Hawaii gain legitimacy?

That's a good question. Winning at Alabama would have been a good start, because until they win a road game against a BCS school, I don't think they get taken seriously.