If the committee is smart, they put Ohio State in.

[BigDofBA]

And leave the Big 12 out.

I'm a Big 12 guy but the confernce doesn't have a championship game and only has 10 teams.

If Ohio State gets in, then there will be no debate over TCU getting in vs Baylor anymore. It make the most sense to me.

Baylor should get punished for playing a crap OOC schedule and Ohio State should get in after their impressive win tonight.

Had Ohio State struggled I could have seen the argument for TCU not, but not now.

[Ronald S.]

I think OSU's chances may actually depend on the KState/Baylor game.

If Baylor loses, no TCU/Baylor controversy. Committee is probably really hoping Baylor loses lol though doesn't look like that's going to happen.

[BigDofBA]

I think OSU's chances may actually depend on the KState/Baylor game.

If Baylor loses, no TCU/Baylor controversy. Committee is probably really hoping Baylor loses lol though doesn't look like that's going to happen.

Why does it depend on the Baylor game?

Both Baylor and TCU are already ahead of Ohio State. I'm saying OSU should jump them both regardless if Baylor wins.

Baylor and TCU didn't have to play a Conference title game.

Baylor played a crap OOC schedule.

TCU lost to Baylor.

Solve the problem and put neither in.

[2Shirts]

OSU Making a HUGE statement.

[Seattle Slew]

Ohio State is already ahead of Baylor, they are No. 5, Baylor is 6.

OSU needs FSU to lose, think it comes down to that.

Why does it depend on the Baylor game?

Both Baylor and TCU are already ahead of Ohio State. I'm saying OSU should jump them both regardless if Baylor wins.

Baylor and TCU didn't have to play a Conference title game.

Baylor played a crap OOC schedule.

TCU lost to Baylor.

Solve the problem and put neither in.

[BigDofBA]

That's what I was getting at.

Although I'm a big 12 guy, I would jump Ohio State over TCU.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Could they really drop FSU a spot if they win @ a ranked opponent???

Just cannot see them snubbing FSU if they go undefeated again @ GT.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

That's what I was getting at.

Although I'm a big 12 guy, I would jump Ohio State over TCU.

But I feel like the penalizes TCU for playing a bad opponent this week...

[BigDofBA]

But I feel like the penalizes TCU for playing a bad opponent this week...

It penalizes the Big 12 for not having an outright winner of their conference.

[Seattle Slew]

The fact they moved TCU to 3 last week I think made it clear they are in. If they kept them at 4, they could drop them. But can you drop them out at this point from 3.

[homie1975]

And leave the Big 12 out.

I'm a Big 12 guy but the confernce doesn't have a championship game and only has 10 teams.

If Ohio State gets in, then there will be no debate over TCU getting in vs Baylor anymore. It make the most sense to me.

Baylor should get punished for playing a crap OOC schedule and Ohio State should get in after their impressive win tonight.

Had Ohio State struggled I could have seen the argument for TCU not, but not now.

100% agree even though i hate the big ten

[SilverTongueFox]

It penalizes the Big 12 for not having an outright winner of their conference.

They have an outright winner. Baylor beat TCU

[homie1975]

They reset every week. Supposedly. Why cant some of u see this

[homie1975]

They have an alright winner. Baylor beat TCU

co champions on paper

[SilverTongueFox]

Didn't Ohio Sy get thumped by Va Tech at home. Worst loss by far.

[SilverTongueFox]

co champions on paper

On paper Baylor are champs

see clause a.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1546006

[GoBlue77]

come on bro, you are smarter than this. OSU does not belong over TCU

[pronk]

59-0 is a sure ticket to paradise

[navyblue81]

When you're comparing teams that are so close, who they lose to is a huge factor. Losing to Va. Tech cannot be ignored, I don't care if it was in September or December. It was a very bad loss.

[GoBlue77]

When you're comparing teams that are so close, who they lose to is a huge factor. Losing to Va. Tech cannot be ignored, I don't care if it was in September or December. It was a very bad loss.

better yet. flip schedules. tell me OSU plays TCU's schedule and they only have 1 loss...no way. TCU may run the table playing OSU's schedule.

[pronk]

When you're comparing teams that are so close, who they lose to is a huge factor. Losing to Va. Tech cannot be ignored, I don't care if it was in September or December. It was a very bad loss.

Oregon also lost to a crappy team.

[navyblue81]

It's going to be a tough decision. How much will the committee value the fact Oklahoma lost today, which hurts the Big 12. Are they willing to drop a team two spots for winning by 52 points? I wouldn't want to be in that debate room. My personal opinion is TCU should be in, but my gut tells me Ohio State is going to end up getting rewarded, which makes me sick because I really don't think they're that good of a team.

[navyblue81]

Oregon also lost to a crappy team.

Losing to a #7 ranked team is a crappy team? Huh?

[Ronald S.]

Why does it depend on the Baylor game?

Both Baylor and TCU are already ahead of Ohio State. I'm saying OSU should jump them both regardless if Baylor wins.

Baylor and TCU didn't have to play a Conference title game.

Baylor played a crap OOC schedule.

TCU lost to Baylor.

Solve the problem and put neither in.

Right well I guess my point was that it would make it easier to have OSU jump just 1 team as opposed to 2.

[SilverTongueFox]

Personally I don't think OSU should be in top 4. I'm thinking committee keeps it the same Bama v FSU Sugar & Oregon v TCU Rose.

i don't understand the argument that TCU & Baylor don't have a conference champ game so therefore OSU should be ranked ahead bc they do have a conference champ game. TCU, Baylor play 9 conference games just like Ohio St. TCU, Baylor actually play everybody in the conference unlike Ohio St. Why do they need to add a 10th conference game so teams have to play twice. In case of tiebreaker they have head to head. Unfortunate here committe sees it different and thinks TCU is better team.

[SilverTongueFox]

When you're comparing teams that are so close, who they lose to is a huge factor. Losing to Va. Tech cannot be ignored, I don't care if it was in September or December. It was a very bad loss.

In addition to having worst loss, Ohio St only beat Minnesota by 7pts, TCU beat them by 23pts.

The he real argument should be between Baylor & TCU not Ohio St!

[pronk]

Losing to a #7 ranked team is a crappy team? Huh?

Huh? They just destroyed #11 badger team in a championship game with its 3rd string qb 59-000000

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

MARSHALL SHOULD BE IN THE TOP 4

l

[BigDofBA]

Why is it more important who you lose to than who you beat?

Ohio State thumped Michigan State and Wisconsin.

When they lost to Va Tech, they were still breaking in a backup QB.

I hate the Big 10 this is how I see it.

[BigDofBA]

In addition to having worst loss, Ohio St only beat Minnesota by 7pts, TCU beat them by 23pts.

The he real argument should be between Baylor & TCU not Ohio St!

TCU only beat Kansas by like 4 points.

Baylor barely beat Texas Tech.

[2Shirts]

Boom - well said

59-0 is a sure ticket to paradise

[2Shirts]

F v tech who else goes three deep at qb a dominates....

[BigDofBA]

So TCU should go ahead of Baylor and Ohio State because TCU lost to Baylor, Baylor lost to WVU, and Ohio State lost to Va. Tech?

So forget the fact that Ohio State has the best win out of any of these three teams by thumping Michigan State on the road. We're going to put in TCU because their loss "was a good one" even though there best win will be against a K-State team that will be ranked #15-17??

If we put Baylor in, we're basically rewarding them for playing Buffalo and directional Louisiana schools. I'm pretty sure if Ohio State plays Buffalo instead of Va. Tech they're undefeated right now....

[SilverTongueFox]

So TCU should go ahead of Baylor and Ohio State because TCU lost to Baylor, Baylor lost to WVU, and Ohio State lost to Va. Tech?

So forget the fact that Ohio State has the best win out of any of these three teams by thumping Michigan State on the road. We're going to put in TCU because their loss "was a good one" even though there best win will be against a K-State team that will be ranked #15-17??

If we put Baylor in, we're basically rewarding them for playing Buffalo and directional Louisiana schools. I'm pretty sure if Ohio State plays Buffalo instead of Va. Tech they're undefeated right now....

It took Ohio St double OT to beat Penn St. Struggled with Michigan for 3.5 qtrs. And need I say again got handled by Va Tech. TCU lost by 3 on the road to a top 6 team. A game which they outplayed Baylor except last final 11min. Ohio St got whipped from get go.

Im sure if Ohio St played v. Okla, @ Baylor, @ WVU, v K St in a 6wk stretch they wouldn't be unbeaten in conference.

[fried cheese]

baylor should be in. they beat tcu and the big 12 is better than the big 10.