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Killer_Demo · 07-23-13, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by WorkHorse

We also have several SEC football assistants who read this forum for fun...know that for a fact.

Oh really? I wouldnt doubt some team- insiders ghosting this forum for information

WorkHorse · 07-23-13, 08:05 PM

Killer, I don't want to be misleading like every SEC team has someone reading SBR.

I know at least three SEC assistants who view our threads. One is a good friend and I'm relaying only what I have been told. I'm guessing several coaches read us during the off season for whatever reason.

Once the season starts...I doubt they have time or really care about our postings. As a former coach...I wouldn't give a rat's behind what others are saying during the season.

Killer_Demo · 07-23-13, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by WorkHorse

Killer, I don't want to be misleading like every SEC team has someone reading SBR.

I know at least three SEC assistants who view our threads. One is a good friend and I'm relaying only what I have been told. I'm guessing several coaches read us during the off season for whatever reason.

Once the season starts...I doubt they have time or really care about our postings. As a former coach...I wouldn't give a rat's behind what others are saying during the season.

Once the season starts theres gonna be a new thread every minute

WorkHorse · 07-23-13, 08:24 PM

I understand Bud. Once that starts...I'll retreat to my notebook.

I could care less about every yahoo in the country and their picks. Frecken Boring!

Still, SBR activity will be strong and you and I can make our on decisions on what we
want to read. To be honest, I read very little unless I know the poster.

Huckleberry Pig · 07-23-13, 09:18 PM

WorkHorse have you thought about just you and urban and some of the others that are around right now just keeping one thread going year round and everyone posting picks in that thread? I know you have the SEC notebook and completely understand if you don't want to keep up with 2 threads but myself and some guys on here did that in the NHL forum, just had a "2013 NHL picks" that wasn't limited to just one yahoo posting picks and it went really well. We each gave our picks and tried to do our best as to the reasons for taking the side we were on.

Started out with just a few guys but it grew by the end of the year to a good little group and I think we all enjoyed it. Gave us a single thread we could go to and see what everyone was thinking without having to sift through 40 yahoo threads to find ones of guys we respected. I for one enjoyed it and think it would be cool to see something like that in here during the year. Essentially like your SEC notebook where everyone chimes in with info they find but it breaks down picks. I don't know if ya'll already do it or planned on it but just wanted to put in my $.02 of what worked well in the NHL forum and made it an enjoyable experience for me and several others in the NHL forum.

Killer_Demo · 07-23-13, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by WorkHorse

I understand Bud. Once that starts...I'll retreat to my notebook.

I could care less about every yahoo in the country and their picks. Frecken Boring!

Still, SBR activity will be strong and you and I can make our on decisions on what we
want to read. To be honest, I read very little unless I know the poster.

Just saying its gonna be harder to find Good content...GL on the season

Urbanwildlife · 07-23-13, 09:41 PM

@ Huckleberry Pig
As I told WorkHorse previously, I was asked by quite a few members the past couple of years to have my own thread, but what happens is the antagonists come out and clutter the thread with their childish postings and insults, so it just is not worth it. A prime example is the thread "The Seer" created last year, as well as many of the threads I attempted to share my information in. There are kiddies here who just do not like to see people achieve or have success. One member who was an antagonist last year came right out and admitted that he was only on the forum to insult and antagonize, as he thought it was humerous. I still might have his name in my inbox messages. College Football posters are a whole different breed than what you are going to find on the NHL forums, and the number of posters are much much greater.

WorkHorse · 07-23-13, 09:47 PM

I'm just not sure Huck. There are a few guys who I really respect here at this forum. I'm sure there will be some late comers who also deserve respect. From a forum standpoint...probably good, but won't really influence what I play one way or the other. Some hotshot posting a Game of the Year who can't name you the starting quarterback for the opposing team is PUKE to me. XXXXXXX Dime a dozen when the season starts.

I'm old school and just don't want these young college kids getting burried by BULLSHIT ARTIST. Makes my blood boil. Saying that...it's a free forum and sillyness will be painted all over this place. I want to be a good citizen here at SBR...but if I've had a few...I'll bury the con-artist bastards.

Doesn't mean some of us can't post some good stuff..................

gojetsgomoxies · 07-23-13, 10:12 PM

too much aggressive ignorance in internet forums. like people saying "LMAO" and "double face palm" to phil steele, who BTW interviews all 125 teams in the summer, has the best raw data of anyone (and posts much of it for free on his website) and does amazing analysis as to which teams will look very different this season than recent seasons (yes, his record of choosing improved teams is sort of silly as some of it is much easier schedule, but he's pretty clear on that)

sorry, didn't mean that to be a defense of phil steele so much as a defense of informed opinion vs. young, aggressive, "hit and run" negative comments..... also, does it hurt for people to say "i think boise state is far superior to washington" as opposed to stating it as fact. facts are for the day after the game. and washington or boise being an easy cover is completely defensible.

this forum is much better than others, but most forums are best in this regard.

i do alot of analysis but then sometimes i miss basic facts (like VT and alabama being neutral field) so it's really nice to be part of a community. and i may have had bad #'s on boise returning starters from one from one of the magazines. so it's nice to have people correct me or at least suggest a completely different version of things.

CajunMoon · 07-24-13, 12:01 AM

I agree... as an ex SEC player in the OLD days... many things have changed but the basics remain the same! Do your homework... pay attention to tradition... Keep a close eye on recruiting and the current coaching situation... but most importantly,,, look for value with the lines! Vegas guys are good but local knowledge and understanding of teams can make you a lot of money! I am new here but VERY impressed with with the knowledge, wisdom, and dedication of most I have read.... think we should all continue to contribute to the well being!!! I am a LSU fan and know the program well... however I share my insight... Good luck to everyone this year! I would like to say also,,, so far, two first week games that stand out for me are Air Force and Florida St. Like them both where there at now... Any thoughts???

CajunMoon · 07-24-13, 12:06 AM

I agree... as an ex SEC player in the OLD days... many things have changed but the basics remain the same! Do your homework... pay attention to tradition... Keep a close eye on recruiting and the current coaching situation... but most importantly,,, look for value with the lines! Vegas guys are good but local knowledge and understanding of teams can make you a lot of money! I am new here but VERY impressed with with the knowledge, wisdom, and dedication of most I have read.... think we should all continue to contribute to the well being!!! I am a LSU fan and know the program well... however I share my insight... Good luck to everyone this year! I would like to say also,,, so far, two first week games that stand out for me are Air Force and Florida St. Like them both where there at now... Any thoughts???<br>

Urbanwildlife · 07-24-13, 12:09 AM

Welcome to the forum and looking forward to sharing information with you!

I am playing Florida State as it now stands, along with Notre Dame and Texas. I am considering Fresno State and Minnesota.

CajunMoon · 07-24-13, 12:32 AM

Thanks Urban... I look forward to the same..!! I am deeply pondering the Horns... hate giving up that many but looking at all my info and criteria... I think Mack will cover this game easily... !! Agree with Fresno,,, should have a great team this year... Still up in the air about about ND and Minnesota... By the way,, I will step out on a limb and get you to take a close look at LSU / TCU... Great value at -4/5 to me...as an insider here,, I have seen what Cam has done with the offense.. Chavis has plugged in some hosses on defense... they look solid and ready to play! On the flip side... I know that TCU will be solid on defense as always and Im sure they are counting on the old QB to take up a lot of slack. However,, big venue,, an underrated LSU team that always plays a huge first game,,(ask WV/Geno Smith) , 12vsSEC, I think this may be one of the only games LSU may cover this year. Thoughts?? Pretty solid play for me.

Urbanwildlife · 07-24-13, 12:41 AM

As far as Notre Dame goes, I would be very surprised if any points were put on the board against them, despite the fact it is the first game of the season. Temple was not a good team last year and lost all of there top players with the exception of a linebacker and a wide receiver. They have a new coaching staff who is installing a pro style offense, where in years past they were a run oriented team, so with this being there first game, a new coaching staff and system, and losing there best players through graduation, I have to believe Notre Dame will shut them out, and run right through the defense. I know the line is -24.5 to -25 but like Texas, they will be able to name the score if they so wish.

CajunMoon · 07-24-13, 02:21 AM

Thanks for the heads up,,, I havent looked at Temple that close yet,,, appears you may be right! Worth a closer look on my part!

Fredvic247 · 07-24-13, 06:02 AM

This forum is booming couldnt be happier since coming over.....

Keep up the great work everyone.......

Main thing I love here, not as much riff raff, everyone focused on learning and winning.....that means a lot.....

less keyboard cowboys the better imo.....

Huckleberry Pig · 07-24-13, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by Urbanwildlife

@ Huckleberry Pig
As I told WorkHorse previously, I was asked by quite a few members the past couple of years to have my own thread, but what happens is the antagonists come out and clutter the thread with their childish postings and insults, so it just is not worth it. A prime example is the thread "The Seer" created last year, as well as many of the threads I attempted to share my information in. There are kiddies here who just do not like to see people achieve or have success. One member who was an antagonist last year came right out and admitted that he was only on the forum to insult and antagonize, as he thought it was humerous. I still might have his name in my inbox messages. College Football posters are a whole different breed than what you are going to find on the NHL forums, and the number of posters are much much greater.

completely understand Urban. Wasn't so much saying start your own thread as I was maybe just start a thread for everyone to comment on/post picks on. Thought it might help keep out some of the trolls. Either way I look forward to your picks/analysis (along with several others on here) and really do think this is the best CFB forum I've found so far as far as quality information/analysis. Hopefully that will continue through the season and we won't end up with too many clowns. BOL

@ WorkHorse - some good points. I didn't mean to make it a thread to influence your play one way or the other as much as I meant it to serve as a place where several of the quality posters can give their picks and analysis and maybe provide some feedback to each other. Was just a thought - BOL to you as well, enjoy reading both you and urbans stuff.

Just fyi I'm a University of Arkansas grad and keep up with a Hog Forum that is pretty good so if I hear anything over there I will be sure to let ya'll know on the SEC Notebook thread. Thanks again guys.

chunk · 07-24-13, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by Huckleberry Pig

WorkHorse have you thought about just you and urban and some of the others that are around right now just keeping one thread going year round and everyone posting picks in that thread? I know you have the SEC notebook and completely understand if you don't want to keep up with 2 threads but myself and some guys on here did that in the NHL forum, just had a "2013 NHL picks" that wasn't limited to just one yahoo posting picks and it went really well. We each gave our picks and tried to do our best as to the reasons for taking the side we were on.

Started out with just a few guys but it grew by the end of the year to a good little group and I think we all enjoyed it. Gave us a single thread we could go to and see what everyone was thinking without having to sift through 40 yahoo threads to find ones of guys we respected. I for one enjoyed it and think it would be cool to see something like that in here during the year. Essentially like your SEC notebook where everyone chimes in with info they find but it breaks down picks. I don't know if ya'll already do it or planned on it but just wanted to put in my $.02 of what worked well in the NHL forum and made it an enjoyable experience for me and several others in the NHL forum.

I've observed some of those "best bet" threads where they post with widely available lines and keep accurate records throughout the season. It seems to be as good a way to share your insight on a game as any. I don't have a whole lot of time once the season starts, but I'd be willing to contribute to that. I understand that many who like a little action don't have the time to devote to the process.

brooks85 · 07-24-13, 10:32 AM

This is why SBR is number #1, because of insider info.

Just found this out this morning

A certain WR coach(gotta leave little mystery) for my college football team sent a friend of mine a picture of his dick on snapshot last night, after asking her how to use snapshot. Problem is it wasn't his wife, she was laying in bed next to him asleep. That friend is going to their cookout tonight and going to tell the wife(they are very close friends). Dun dun dunnnnnnnn

I defended him tho. I said it's possible that if he was texting the friend how to use snapshot, that he then mistakenly sent his new snapshot pic to her instead of his wife.

Urbanwildlife · 07-24-13, 10:45 AM

Strange ass post.

Huckleberry Pig · 07-24-13, 11:10 AM

and we had been doing so well

Louisvillekid1 · 07-24-13, 11:37 AM

My threads don't seem to get that cluttered, I really enjoy this forum as well.

Can't wait till the season starts....

BigdaddyQH · 07-24-13, 11:57 AM

If we can keep it legit, it will be great. How many people actually understand the three main aspects of fooball wagering, those being fundamental, situational, and technical? I know that most of the 365 a year posters in here know that, but we are about to be inundated with a bunch of homers who think their teams are actually good. As far as I am concerned, I will chime in with some info in all three of these aspects of wagering, and you can make your own calls. There is one thing that we must understand. There is going to be a lot of people in here who "shop" for the best lines they can find, regardless of whether or not they actually have accounts at those books. Most of the "Johnny Come Latelies" are frauds going in. They just want to look like they know what they are doing. Just do not let them get to you. Stick to the people you trust, whether you agree with them or not. At least you know that they will be giving you an honest opinion based on what they perceive is solid information.

Huckleberry Pig · 07-24-13, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

If we can keep it legit, it will be great. How many people actually understand the three main aspects of fooball wagering, those being fundamental, situational, and technical? I know that most of the 365 a year posters in here know that, but we are about to be inundated with a bunch of homers who think their teams are actually good. As far as I am concerned, I will chime in with some info in all three of these aspects of wagering, and you can make your own calls. There is one thing that we must understand. There is going to be a lot of people in here who "shop" for the best lines they can find, regardless of whether or not they actually have accounts at those books. Most of the "Johnny Come Latelies" are frauds going in. They just want to look like they know what they are doing. Just do not let them get to you. Stick to the people you trust, whether you agree with them or not. At least you know that they will be giving you an honest opinion based on what they perceive is solid information.

great post - and I think that the people that are in here now sharing insights and perspectives this long before the season are really the ones that I will be listening to because, as you said, once the season starts there will be a lot of Johnny Come Latelies. If you are in here now, I know you're serious about either giving information or learning information or both.

brooks85 · 07-24-13, 02:29 PM

lol, yall dont like my inside info huh

Huckleberry Pig · 07-24-13, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

lol, yall dont like my inside info huh

it's a wild story, you can't blame us for not taking it as 100% fact from the get-go. After all, we are on an internet forum

gojetsgomoxies · 07-24-13, 07:26 PM

sorry, when i complained about rudeness i'd actually have to say that sbrforum.com is much better than average for internet. unfortunately "internet average" is horrendous.

not sure how many people use the world's biggest poker forum but the behaivour over there is simply attrocious and i get the idea the owners are libertarians (say whatever you want as long as you don't threaten to kill someone.... or mention "brandi hawbaker")......... those seem to be the only two rules.

Killer_Demo · 07-24-13, 07:35 PM

And for the love of god never follow a "Lock" thread. Those who do that are clowns and get exposed... When I post a larger unit bet I say so and give reasons why I'm betting a higher unit in a specific game. Nothing is ever a lock in gambling.

Huckleberry Pig · 07-24-13, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by Killer_Demo

And for the love of god never follow a "Lock" thread. Those who do that are clowns and get exposed... When I post a larger unit bet I say so and give reasons why I'm betting a higher unit in a specific game. Nothing is ever a lock in gambling.

Urbanwildlife · 07-25-13, 12:43 AM

and the clueless

and the kiddies are coming out more everyday as we get get closer to kickoff, which is rather unfortunate.

chunk · 07-25-13, 02:50 AM

There is no doubt that this place, when it comes to some positive influence is an uphill battle.

CajunMoon · 07-25-13, 09:47 AM

Hi Huck... I know you are a Hog fan so I wanted to ask about their opener,,, USL returns a lot from a pretty solid team last year... I am sure that Buliema will be running the ball nearly every play... The Hogs are in a wild transition year with a lot of unproven players... I am sure they are deeper and more talented at many positions than USL .... but do you think they can cover 12 to 14 points in this game??

CajunMoon · 07-25-13, 09:59 AM

Hi Huck... I know you are a Hog fan so I wanted to ask about their opener,,, USL returns a lot from a pretty solid team last year... I am sure that Buliema will be running the ball nearly every play... The Hogs are in a wild transition year with a lot of unproven players... I am sure they are deeper and more talented at many positions than USL .... but do you think they can cover 12 to 14 points in this game?? <br>

Huckleberry Pig · 07-25-13, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by CajunMoon

Hi Huck... I know you are a Hog fan so I wanted to ask about their opener,,, USL returns a lot from a pretty solid team last year... I am sure that Buliema will be running the ball nearly every play... The Hogs are in a wild transition year with a lot of unproven players... I am sure they are deeper and more talented at many positions than USL .... but do you think they can cover 12 to 14 points in this game?? <br>

Very good question Cajun. We only have 2 returning starters on the O-line, a new QB, and only one returning RB but i expect Alex Collins, true freshman, to get some playing time. I am worried about our Offense, I can see it being very stagnant throughout the year but I have a lot of confidence in our new O-Line Coach Sam Pittman (one of the best in the game) and I'm hoping he can have an immediate impact. However, I could just as easily see it taking a year or two.

On Defense we have a really strong front 4 but after that it falls off - esp in the secondary. We need A LOT of work there. The question will be if your O-line can provide enough time for your QB to throw. If so, I see USL staying closer in this.

If the line goes up to +17 or more I'd probably take USL to cover. There is just so much uncertainty with the Razorback team, tough to know what to predict.

And just FYI I have a personal rule for myself - never bet against a team I love. I bet against the hogs last year when they played auburn and lost the bet but was never able to enjoy the win like I normally would and I hated it. Betting for me is strictly business so I will never bet against the Razorbacks again (will only bet for them when I think they can cover) but feel free to ask any questions.