Stanford 9.5 wins

[bamaatlsu]

What does everyone think about this?

[gojetsgomoxies]

i see alot of optimism about stanford this year. top 5 team by many.

but i would have thought they would be regressing to a 50% win team (maybe a bit better if they creampuff games) over time. but hasn't happened yet.

not sure how many games they play......... alot of improved teams in the pac 12 this year.

given that i don't know how many games they play it's hard to say or what P12 teams they avoid this year... but generally i'd probably go under with stanford

[WorkHorse]

Bama, the past three seasons the Cards have gone 12-1, 11-2 and 12-2. I foresee much of the same this season. The defense will keep Stanford in a lot of games. On offense, they probably have the best offensive line in the conference which suits their run-based attack.

If you are asking will they win ten or more games then I would lean a big yes. I love a team that runs the ball and plays defense. Stanford has done that well of late.

[Isaiah]

I really like Stanford's team this season but there are too many landmines in their schedule to bank on 10 wins. I'll pass on the season total and be looking to play on themthroughout the season. I'll be picking my spots. Date		Opponent	Time/TV	Tickets
Saturday Aug. 31	---	Open Date	---	---
Saturday Sept. 7		San Jose State Spartans Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA	8:00 p.m. PT Pac-12 Network	Buy Tickets
Saturday Sept. 14		at Army Black Knights Michie Stadium, West Point, NY	9:00 a.m. PT CBS SN	Buy Tickets
Saturday Sept. 21		Arizona State Sun Devils Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA	TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Sept. 28		at Washington State Cougars CenturyLink Field, Seattle, WA	TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Oct. 5		Washington Huskies Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA	TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Oct. 12		at Utah Utes Rice-Eccles Stadium, Salt Lake City, UT	TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Oct. 19		UCLA Bruins Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA	TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Oct. 26		at Oregon State Beavers Reser Stadium, Corvallis, OR	TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Nov. 2	---	Open Date	---	---
Thursday Nov. 7		Oregon Ducks Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA	6:00 p.m. PT ESPN	Buy Tickets
Saturday Nov. 16		at USC Trojans Los Angeles Mem. Coliseum, Los Angeles, CA	TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Nov. 23		California Golden Bears Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA	TBA	Buy Tickets
Saturday Nov. 30		Notre Dame Fighting Irish Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA	Time TBA FOX

[suicidekings]

The Ducks are likely the only truly threatening team on their schedule. I predict an 11 win season if they can avoid the 4Q unlucky bounces. They will completely overpower 7-8 of their opponents, including Notre Dame.

[Isaiah]

The Ducks are likely the only truly threatening team on their schedule. I predict an 11 win season if they can avoid the 4Q unlucky bounces. They will completely overpower 7-8 of their opponents, including Notre Dame.

If you think only one team on that schedule is a "threat" you are either a delusional fan or know nothing about college football. Not saying the Cardinal can't win 10, just saying the risk/reward ratio doesn't justify placing my hard earned $$$ on the proposition.

I am looking at it as an objective gambler not a Stanford fan. There are better opportunities on the board.

[Killer_Demo]

Stanford = 1 of the top 3 teams in the country next to Bama and Texas A&M

[suicidekings]

If you think only one team on that schedule is a "threat" you are either a delusional fan or know nothing about college football. Not saying the Cardinal can't win 10, just saying the risk/reward ratio doesn't justify placing my hard earned $$$ on the proposition.

I am looking at it as an objective gambler not a Stanford fan. There are better opportunities on the board.

I'm not a Stanford fan, nor am I a fan of any college teams. I'm just a guy that's made a fair bit of money from their revival over the last few years and I have strong opinions about what we're going to see on the field from the Cardinal and a few other CFB teams.

I don't play season win totals, but O9.5 is a pretty strong position.

[Killer_Demo]

I see Stanford winning over 10

[SamDiamond]

I see Stanford winning over 10

Lots of faith in Stanford, and I don't get it.

They had 6 wins last year by 7 or fewer points, including OT wins against Arizona and Oregon.

They beat San Jose State by 3, they came back in the second half against USC to win by 7, beat UCLA by 3, and Oregon State by 4.

And now they lose Stepfan Taylor.

I am not sold on over 10 wins.

[Killer_Demo]

Lots of faith in Stanford, and I don't get it.

They had 6 wins last year by 7 or fewer points, including OT wins against Arizona and Oregon.

They beat San Jose State by 3, they came back in the second half against USC to win by 7, beat UCLA by 3, and Oregon State by 4.

And now they lose Stepfan Taylor.

I am not sold on over 10 wins.

They would have been BCS bound last year had it not been for that screwjob call in ND....Constantly beat Oregon and top tier teams....Stanford is my pick to win it all this year

[gojetsgomoxies]

If you think only one team on that schedule is a "threat" you are either a delusional fan or know nothing about college football. Not saying the Cardinal can't win 10, just saying the risk/reward ratio doesn't justify placing my hard earned $$$ on the proposition.

I am looking at it as an objective gambler not a Stanford fan. There are better opportunities on the board.

+1.... i see one "for sure" easy game on their schedule (army). not sure about utah .... but no colorado on their schedule .... it strikes me alot of pac10 games will be close this year.

do win totals include the pac12 championship game? i think not. and pretty sure don't include bowls. but i don't really know

EDIT: SJSU had a great record last year AND their QB is touted by some as #1 QB in 2014 nfl draft.

[BigdaddyQH]

First of all, Stanford has the best defense overall in the Pac 12 and one of the best in the nation. 9 starters return. They rank in the Top 10 Nationally in D-line, LB's and the Secondary. This defense held 10 teams to 17 or lesss points last season. The big question is what their offense can do. They get their QB back and most of the offensive line, and have a decent RB group, but their receivers are a disaster. Some rank their WR unit out of the Top 50 in the nation. This means that Stanford is going to have to do it with defense and a running game, something that does not bode well with games against good defensive teams, such as USC (away) and Oregon (home). 9.5 is pretty much on the money, so I would pass on this wager.

[SamDiamond]

They would have been BCS bound last year had it not been for that screwjob call in ND....Constantly beat Oregon and top tier teams....Stanford is my pick to win it all this year

I'm confused on this one.

Stanford has beaten Oregon twice in the last 11 years.

And last year was the first time in the last 8 that Stanford held Oregon under 35 points per game.

And, let's be honest with that ND call. Even if Stanford gets the TD call, it only ties the game, it doesn't win it for them.

And-- let's not forget about the call Stanford got the previous week against Arizona that allowed them to win 54-48 in OT.

I'm sorry, but the style of play that Stanford uses-- trying to run the ball, by its nature allows for close games. And if Stanford ever falls behind by 2 or more scores, I don't see them being able to play catch up with that cast of WRs.

I guess we will see how it plays out, but I will be stunned if they win 11 games.

[Killer_Demo]

I'm confused on this one.

Stanford has beaten Oregon twice in the last 11 years.

And last year was the first time in the last 8 that Stanford held Oregon under 35 points per game.

And, let's be honest with that ND call. Even if Stanford gets the TD call, it only ties the game, it doesn't win it for them.

And-- let's not forget about the call Stanford got the previous week against Arizona that allowed them to win 54-48 in OT.

I'm sorry, but the style of play that Stanford uses-- trying to run the ball, by its nature allows for close games. And if Stanford ever falls behind by 2 or more scores, I don't see them being able to play catch up with that cast of WRs.

I guess we will see how it plays out, but I will be stunned if they win 11 games.

Ya I dont really care for stats to be honest...but ya the BIG factor to me on the cardinals is the RB's...the offense is based on running they gonna need top-caliber RB's....they took a big hit once Taylor left. We will see how they recover from him departing

[SamDiamond]

Ya I dont really care for stats to be honest...but ya the BIG factor to me on the cardinals is the RB's...the offense is based on running they gonna need top-caliber RB's....they took a big hit once Taylor left. We will see how they recover from him departing

I'll say this much.

David Shaw has momentum going with that program.

Anyone see this David Shaw Speech at TedX?

It's very good.

[PAULYPOKER]

Lots of faith in Stanford, and I don't get it.

That is because you are a fukkin simpleton and no one expects you to get it..........


Not even a forum full of half wit degenerates........

[SamDiamond]

That is because you are a fukkin simpleton and no one expects you to get it..........


Not even a forum full of half wit degenerates........

Go back to your Iranian website, let the grown ups talk here.

[BigdaddyQH]

Pauley. Are you still here running your mouth off? I thought you would have had enough after I buried you last season. Go back to the Politics room where you belong.

[GWOZOZO]

If Stanford has another tough, physical RB, it's difficult betting against them

[PAULYPOKER]

Pauley. Are you still here running your mouth off? I thought you would have had enough after I buried you last season. Go back to the Politics room where you belong.

Wheres the link, BDQH AKA Hank Hill?

[suicidekings]

Stanford has beaten Oregon twice in the last 11 years.

Means nothing. While Oregon has been a fairly consistent program for years, Stanford has undergone a revival in the last few, transforming them from a traditionally weak, uninterested football program to a defensive powerhouse with a new dedication to fielding a winning team. For example, the acquisition of Keller Chryst this summer.

If you've been approaching handicapping the Cardinal from a historical standpoint for the last 3 years, you've been buried by them.

[SamDiamond]

Means nothing. While Oregon has been a fairly consistent program for years, Stanford has undergone a revival in the last few, transforming them from a traditionally weak, uninterested football program to a defensive powerhouse with a new dedication to fielding a winning team. For example, the acquisition of Keller Chryst this summer.

If you've been approaching handicapping the Cardinal from a historical standpoint for the last 3 years, you've been buried by them.

Means nothing?

Really. If I had taken Oregon and laid the number against Stanford, I would be 3-1 the last 4 years, with my only loss coming last year.

Let's take a closer look at Stanford's last 3 games against Oregon. Stanford's last 3 teams were beaten 52-31, 53-30, but did manage to win last year. My point? Even during Stanford's amazing run, Oregon has been able to steamroll them. So, I do think it carries some weight.

I'm not taking anything away from Stanford, or what they've done. But I am not buying into 10 wins this year.

This will be a fun thread to follow as the season moves along.

[Isaiah]

+1.... i see one "for sure" easy game on their schedule (army). not sure about utah .... but no colorado on their schedule .... it strikes me alot of pac10 games will be close this year.

do win totals include the pac12 championship game? i think not. and pretty sure don't include bowls. but i don't really know

EDIT: SJSU had a great record last year AND their QB is touted by some as #1 QB in 2014 nfl draft.

Neither the Pac 12 Championship game or their Bowl game applies to the win total.

Also, the Oregon State game is an upset waiting to happen. It's sandwich game for Stanford; UCLA then travel to an improved Oregon State with Oregon and USC ahead in their next two games. Granted they have a open date prior but just saying... I'll be looking to play the Beavers plus the points.