OOOPS! Regarding My Florida Future

[Poker_Beast]

GL on those futures!

[donjuan]

Based on?

I would malke Oklahoma -4, Texas -2.5 over USC.

Based on the abilities of both teams. The early market appears to agree with me, too, as USC and Texas are favored over Penn St and Ohio St (respectively) by the same amount, although USC is the greater favorite SU due to a lower total.

[LT Profits]

Based on the abilities of both teams. The early market appears to agree with me, too, as USC and Texas are favored over Penn St and Ohio St (respectively) by the same amount, although USC is the greater favorite SU due to a lower total.

At some point, you have to seperate "ability" from performance, and both Oklahoma and Texas have had more impressive wins vs. MUCH tougher schedules than USC has.

[Lout84]

USC has no offense.. there is no way they would beat Oklahoma, Texas, or Florida. Mark Sanchez is horrible, the guy throws 2 picks per game against poor defense's. I do think they will beat Penn St, but Penn St is pretty much garbage too.

[Lout84]

Nope, no need to Hedge. OU cannot keep up with Florida's offense and their defense is horrible.

As I have been saying, Demps, Moody, Harvin will shred their asses.

OU can not keep up with Florida's offense? You know nothing about college football. I think squares do not realize how fast Oklahoma's defense is. You only listen to what the media says. Sure Florida has 3 players that run 4.35, but to say that Oklahoma (the highest scoring offense in the nation) can not keep up with Florida's offense is pure ignorance.

[LT Profits]

OU can not keep up with Florida's offense? You know nothing about college football. I think squares do not realize how fast Oklahoma's defense is. You only listen to what the media says. Sure Florida has 3 players that run 4.35, but to say that Oklahoma (the highest scoring offense in the nation) can not keep up with Florida's offense is pure ignorance.

As I have said several times, I rate tbe offenses even but Florida will win because their defense is much better.

[donjuan]

At some point, you have to seperate "ability" from performance, and both Oklahoma and Texas have had more impressive wins vs. MUCH tougher schedules than USC has.

By ability I do not mean potential. I mean that based on the available info, they are a better team.

[rm18]

Based on the abilities of both teams. The early market appears to agree with me, too, as USC and Texas are favored over Penn St and Ohio St (respectively) by the same amount, although USC is the greater favorite SU due to a lower total.

Penn St. was favored at Ohio St. so no way could Texas be favored against USC

[Lout84]

As I have said several times, I rate tbe offenses even but Florida will win because their defense is much better.

You undervalue Oklahoma's offense if you think they are even. I give Oklahoma the edge on offense and Florida the edge on defense.

[LT Profits]

You undervalue Oklahoma's offense if you think they are even. I give Oklahoma the edge on offense and Florida the edge on defense.

Florida accumulated their stats vs. good SEC defenses, Oklahoma got their vs. crappy Big 12 defenses. If these teams played an equal schedule, I see no or little difference.

[LT Profits]

By ability I do not mean potential. I mean that based on the available info, they are a better team.

Maybe I am thick, but what info would that be? USC has struggled vs, some weaklings, while Okalhoma wasn't even challenged in any game other than the loss to Texas, and Texas's only loss came in the final seconds in very hostile territory.

And again, not to beat a dead horse, but you can't just disregard the SOS of the three teams.

[LT Profits]

Penn St. was favored at Ohio St. so no way could Texas be favored against USC

Just because MY line would be Texas -2.5, that doesn't mean the oddsmakers would agree.

I WISH that matchup took place, as I would most likely get nice value on Texas ML.

Oh well.

[yisman]

I would put it as:

1)Florida
2)Oklahoma
3)Texas
4)USC
5)Penn State

[durito]

Maybe I am thick, but what info would that be? USC has struggled vs, some weaklings, while Okalhoma wasn't even challenged in any game other than the loss to Texas, and Texas's only loss came in the final seconds in very hostile territory.

And again, not to beat a dead horse, but you can't just disregard the SOS of the three teams.

USC rates as the best defense in the 10 years I have data for. That's adjusted for opponents.

[donjuan]

Maybe I am thick, but what info would that be? USC has struggled vs, some weaklings, while Okalhoma wasn't even challenged in any game other than the loss to Texas, and Texas's only loss came in the final seconds in very hostile territory.

And again, not to beat a dead horse, but you can't just disregard the SOS of the three teams.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_inference

[LT Profits]

I would put it as:

1)Florida
2)Oklahoma
3)Texas
4)USC
5)Penn State

Agree 400% with top 4 in that order.

Penn State, not so much. I'd rate Alabama 5th, as they played Florida a lot tougher than I expected.

[LT Profits]

USC rates as the best defense in the 10 years I have data for. That's adjusted for opponents.

Hard to say that when they didn't face an offense remotely as good as Oklahoma or Texas. I'm just not buying it from a football sense, Bayesian be damned.

[WileOut]

Florida is clear cut the best team in the nation. Best offense and a top 5 defense. Oklahoma has a rude awakening waiting for them when they play a non high school defense. Oklahoma and USC are about equal and you could make a case for either being the 2nd best team. Alabama and Texas are about equal at the 4th position.

1. Florida
2a. Oklahoma
2b. USC
4a. Texas
4b. Alabama

[fiveteamer]

USC has not faced a good offense.

They smashed Virginia and Ohio State, two good teams, but neither can really score, Ohio State with a frosh QB.

Pac 10 is so weak.

USC vs. Texas would be much better.

[LT Profits]

USC has not faced a good offense.

They smashed Virginia and Ohio State, two good teams, but neither can really score, Ohio State with a frosh QB.

Pac 10 is so weak.

USC vs. Texas would be much better.

All this.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Wells was out for the USC/Ohio St. game and Pryor was not the starting quarterback at the time. Hard to rate Ohio St.'s offensive performance there with their key players not having much impact on the outcome of the game...

[Kingctb27]

OU can not keep up with Florida's offense? You know nothing about college football. I think squares do not realize how fast Oklahoma's defense is. You only listen to what the media says. Sure Florida has 3 players that run 4.35, but to say that Oklahoma (the highest scoring offense in the nation) can not keep up with Florida's offense is pure ignorance.

I know nothing? Pal, you are setting yourself up for a disaster in this game. I hope you remember money management. Don't bet big on this game in favor of OU. OU hasn't seen one playmaker even in the realm of Harvin, Demps, and Moody. Not one player their defense has played against have the ability of those three guys.

Watch out, this won't be a shootout, this will be a shooting.

[NEP Dynasty]

1. Florida
2. Oklahoma
3. Texas
4. USC

Nobody else really close. Can't put USC ahead of any of these 3.

[donjuan]

OU hasn't seen one playmaker even in the realm of Harvin, Demps, and Moody.

Do the names Maclin and Crabtree ring a bell?