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  • gabe
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    • 09-12-11
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    #1
    UFC on FX: Browne vs Bigfoot

    How is it that Simpson vs Pierce is on the prelims and not the main card??? Especially when Neer vs Edwards is on the main card... waddafug?
  • Vaughany
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    • 03-07-10
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    #2
    yeah there are some questionable main card choices on a couple cards....Lil Heathen Edwards should be on main card IMO, I guess they think Simpson Pierce could be a boring wrestling match or something so put it low down.

    Hamill vs Vlad on main card of 152 is also strange to me...TJ Grant vs Dunham is more interesting and even Pokrajac Magalhaes
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    • gabe
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      #3
      Originally posted by Vaughany
      yeah there are some questionable main card choices on a couple cards....Lil Heathen Edwards should be on main card IMO, I guess they think Simpson Pierce could be a boring wrestling match or something so put it low down.

      Hamill vs Vlad on main card of 152 is also strange to me...TJ Grant vs Dunham is more interesting and even Pokrajac Magalhaes
      They're treating Hamill like a big deal...

      I think Pierce/Simpson will take place on the feet for a majority of the fight... We'll see
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      • Imsmarterthanu
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        #4
        I like a lot of those match ups
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        • dww123
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          • 07-06-11
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          #5
          Originally posted by gabe
          They're treating Hamill like a big deal...

          I think Pierce/Simpson will take place on the feet for a majority of the fight... We'll see
          Being on the main card of an FX card isn't necessarily a big deal, but it's a no brainer to bump Hamill up as he has way more name value than either Grant or Dunham. He is easily the most known fighter on the entire card. Personally I think MMA has long since past Hamill's skill set, especially at 205. His game is more UFC circa 2007.
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          • GunShard
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            • 03-05-10
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            #6
            Hieron could win as an underdog.
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            • v1y
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              • 05-02-11
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              #7
              edwards/neer on the main card is a serious noodle scratcher.

              pierce/simpson are both coming off relatively uneventful wins, but i think this will be a war. should be on the main card 100%.
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              • Rubber Guard
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                • 06-22-11
                • 1550

                #8
                Originally posted by v1y
                edwards/neer on the main card is a serious noodle scratcher.

                pierce/simpson are both coming off relatively uneventful wins, but i think this will be a war. should be on the main card 100%.
                Because Neer is a beast and always brings it.
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                • Vaughany
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                  • 03-07-10
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                  #9
                  But so does Lil Heathen!
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                  • bogbat
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                    • 03-21-10
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                    #10
                    Neer has a bigger name and is always exciting.
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                    • MMA Fan
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                      • 08-14-12
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                      But so does Lil Heathen!
                      I find Stephens pretty boring lately. For having such big KO power at a light weight, he tends to want to grapple or is tentative in the standup. Marcus Davis was picking him apart and all Stephens would do was tie up and try and grapple. That KO was brutal, but really was an accidental as a comeback KO can be. He wasn't trying for shit in that fight. Same with the Cerrone and Pettis fights. He ruined that Pettis fight by insisting on grappling a guy that is better at it than him. He's not a very good grappler, so why not use that monster KO power into a more aggressive, standup style? Hell, he resorted to takedowns on Danny Downes instead of trying to knock his head off.

                      With that said, with Yves' chin, this fight is a massive joke. Hands of Pillows put Edwards out cold. God forbid, Stephens connects solidly.
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                      • Vaughany
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                        • 03-07-10
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by MMA Fan
                        I find Stephens pretty boring lately. For having such big KO power at a light weight, he tends to want to grapple or is tentative in the standup. Marcus Davis was picking him apart and all Stephens would do was tie up and try and grapple. That KO was brutal, but really was an accidental as a comeback KO can be. He wasn't trying for shit in that fight. Same with the Cerrone and Pettis fights. He ruined that Pettis fight by insisting on grappling a guy that is better at it than him. He's not a very good grappler, so why not use that monster KO power into a more aggressive, standup style? Hell, he resorted to takedowns on Danny Downes instead of trying to knock his head off.

                        With that said, with Yves' chin, this fight is a massive joke. Hands of Pillows put Edwards out cold. God forbid, Stephens connects solidly.
                        You are right...Stephens talks a lot in his blogs about wanting to evolve and be a complete fighter and he's tried to show that in his fights.
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                        • v1y
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                          • 05-02-11
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                          #13
                          Neer doesn't have a name.

                          I'll be pretty surprised if Stephens doesn't KO Edwards.
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                          • bjpenn85
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                            • 02-17-11
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                            #14
                            stephans has 3 Kos in his last 11 fights. I wouldnt be surprised either, if the figth went to decision, as it usually does.
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                            • Imsmarterthanu
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by MMA Fan
                              I find Stephens pretty boring lately. For having such big KO power at a light weight, he tends to want to grapple or is tentative in the standup. Marcus Davis was picking him apart and all Stephens would do was tie up and try and grapple. That KO was brutal, but really was an accidental as a comeback KO can be. He wasn't trying for shit in that fight. Same with the Cerrone and Pettis fights. He ruined that Pettis fight by insisting on grappling a guy that is better at it than him. He's not a very good grappler, so why not use that monster KO power into a more aggressive, standup style? Hell, he resorted to takedowns on Danny Downes instead of trying to knock his head off.

                              With that said, with Yves' chin, this fight is a massive joke. Hands of Pillows put Edwards out cold. God forbid, Stephens connects solidly.
                              Stephens wanted to portray himself as more well rounded that's why he chose to grapple with Pettis and other fighters as of late. That's where he came up short, he doesn't have the experience on the ground to finish anything there and he's a poor defensive wrestler as well. In Stephens we have a guy with explosive knockout power in his hands and a poor ground game going up against Yves Edwards who is more technically well rounded on the feet having the more effective kickboxing game and much more grappling experience.

                              Chin - Stephens
                              Power - Stephens
                              Standup Technique - Edwards
                              Grappling - Edwards
                              Wrestling - unknown factor
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                              • PunisherIND
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                                • 02-24-11
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                                #16
                                5Dimes released new props for the main event and co-main. no leans yet.
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                                • Fragoel2
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                                  • 09-08-12
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                                  #17
                                  Am I the only one who thinks that Silva is favored in the main event? Silva comes from two losses in his last two fights but those are against some of the top fighters in the division. Browne instead has never been defeated but none of his opponents was top caliber, not to mention that the draw with Congo was, as a matter of fact, a loss.

                                  I'm also skeptical about his hands: so far they've been effective, but he has little technique and often lowers his guard.
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                                  • v1y
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                                    • 05-02-11
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                                    #18
                                    He's shown serious chin issues, and isn't particularly good anywhere. He can win if he gets on top of Browne... but it isn't likely.
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                                    • Vaughany
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                                      • 03-07-10
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                                      #19
                                      yeah, the fact he has a massive head and next to no head movement is always going to be a big concern for me! Think he's gonna have to survive and rely on Browne gassing out
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                                      • poopoo333
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                                        • 05-30-11
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                                        #20
                                        Ellenberger ITD +322
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                                        • Mercersux
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                                          • 05-03-12
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by poopoo333
                                          Ellenberger ITD +322
                                          Definitely diggin that prop. Little more research before I pull the trigger but great value. Can see ellenberger catching heiron.
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                                          • Imsmarterthanu
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                                            • 05-02-12
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Fragoel2
                                            Am I the only one who thinks that Silva is favored in the main event? Silva comes from two losses in his last two fights but those are against some of the top fighters in the division. Browne instead has never been defeated but none of his opponents was top caliber, not to mention that the draw with Congo was, as a matter of fact, a loss.

                                            I'm also skeptical about his hands: so far they've been effective, but he has little technique and often lowers his guard.
                                            Sorry pal but that Kongo fight Browne won, they gave Kongo a gift and called it a draw but he was outstriking Kongo and controlling the octagon in that fight the entire time. One thing you don't want to do is underestimate Travis Browne the guy is an animal. Bigfoot is a tall order but I think Bigfoot's time has passed and he's on the downslope while Browne is coming up and looks better every fight.
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                                            • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                              • 08-25-08
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                                              #23
                                              MAIN CARD (FX, 8 p.m. ET)
                                              • Travis Browne vs. Antonio Silva
                                              • Jake Ellenberger vs. Jay Hieron
                                              • John Dodson vs. Jussier Formiga
                                              • Josh Neer vs. Justin Edwards

                                              PRELIMINARY CARD (FUEL TV, 5 p.m. ET)
                                              • Yves Edwards vs. Jeremy Stephens
                                              • Danny Castillo vs. Michael Johnson
                                              • Dennis Hallman vs. Thiago Tavares
                                              • Shane Roller vs. Jacob Volkmann
                                              • Diego Nunes vs. Bart Palaszewski
                                              • Phil Harris vs. Darren Uyenoyama

                                              PRELIMINARY CARD (FUEL TV, 4 p.m. ET)
                                              • Marcus LeVesseur vs. Carlo Prater
                                              • Mike Pierce vs. Aaron Simpson

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                                              • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                                • 08-25-08
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                                                #24
                                                this is a solid fight card for FX
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                                                • PunisherIND
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                                                  #25
                                                  Pierce/simpson on facebook. Its too bad, props would have money
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                                                  • sideloaded
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                                                    #26
                                                    Carlo Prater on the undercard after his huge win over Erick Silva?
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                                                    • v1y
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                      Carlo Prater on the undercard after his huge win over Erick Silva?
                                                      he just lost a one sided fight to grant... dude has no business in the ufc.
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                                                      • scofflaw
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                                                        • 06-12-11
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                                                        #28
                                                        Going big on Browne. I was prepared to smash him @ the -300ish opener. Speed kills and Bigfoot is about as slow as they come. Browne shouldn't have a problem picking Bigfoot apart from the outside until he drops.

                                                        To those playing Ellenberger ITD, consider that he may step in with a more conservative strategy after his last fight. I don't like this fight. Lil heathen is a better play imo.
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                                                        • Jesus Christ
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                                                          • 05-25-11
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                                                          #29
                                                          Browne is gonna wreck Big Foot...I'm not normally one to go for the 2-1 favorites but I def have this closer to -300
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                                                          • MD
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                                                            #30
                                                            The Castillo/Johnson fight is gonna have some good value, one way or the other. Castillo -120 on PP. Will probably have to play that small; not a lot of faith in Johnson, but I can't bet big against him again after the Tony Ferguson fight.

                                                            EDIT: Just took Browne by KO at -110.
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                                                            • gabe
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                                                              • 09-12-11
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MD
                                                              The Castillo/Johnson fight is gonna have some good value, one way or the other. Castillo -120 on PP. Will probably have to play that small; not a lot of faith in Johnson, but I can't bet big against him again after the Tony Ferguson fight.

                                                              EDIT: Just took Browne by KO at -110.
                                                              Ferguson was fighting with a broken hand. Was a big play for me. =(
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                                                              • MD
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by gabe
                                                                Ferguson was fighting with a broken hand. Was a big play for me. =(
                                                                Who do you like in this fight? Castillo is a beast, handled Cholish, who is a John Danaher guy, and very talented. He's kind of hit his ceiling, though, and Johnson is just improving.
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                                                                • Crassus
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Jesus Christ
                                                                  Browne is gonna wreck Big Foot...I'm not normally one to go for the 2-1 favorites but I def have this closer to -300
                                                                  Damn I'm on the other end Jesus. Not sure how to feel about this haha. Big Foot is gonna crush Browne I'm pretty sure.
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                                                                  • MD
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Crassus
                                                                    Damn I'm on the other end Jesus. Not sure how to feel about this haha. Big Foot is gonna crush Browne I'm pretty sure.
                                                                    What's your analysis of the fight? I feel pretty strongly the other way. I don't see how a slow, plodding guy like Bigfoot, with a head the size of a medicine ball and no head movement, is going to be able to compete with a guy who's taller, much faster, with a huge reach (although Bigfoot has the edge here), very effective striking and very good knockout power. He's a Greg Jackson fighter, also.
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                                                                    • Vaughany
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      yeah Castillo is due a loss...morale cant be good at Team Alpha Fail right now! He scraped the win against Njokuani, Johnson although not as good a striker as Njo, does at least have some sort of a wrestling background and has decent movement so will be difficult for Castillo to get the takedown. Other than that he just has to worry about Castillo's big telegraphed over-hand right
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