Strikeforce: Rockhold vs. Kennedy

[Beelzebubzy]

need this fight to go the distance for .8u profit (have it freerolled)

[Sykes]

Slow fight. Get Marquart in there 2 weight champ..

[Demonata]

I call Rockhold won 2 rounds so far.

[Sykes]

Need an early Rockhold ninja move here.

[Demonata]

3-1 rockhold so far in my opinion.

[Imsmarterthanu]

[Sykes]

Well fuk that, pretty much lost my ass tonight, Khan fuked me up on 2 10/1 bets. Good job to those that won, hope Rockhold/Kennedy have an awesome afterparty at the gaybar!

[Beelzebubzy]

If Sisqo and the Nutty Professor had a baby this is what it would look like

[Demonata]

Hell ya Rockwold. Too big and strong

[jizay]

LOL. I would pay $50 to see her reaction during the end sequence.

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Wow. Is that second gif when Tyron is getting KOed? Averi is holding her son as the boys watch dad get murdered and grandma go crazy. Some brutal shit.

[Vaughany]

Wow. Is that second gif when Tyron is getting KOed? Averi is holding her son as the boys watch dad get murdered and grandma go crazy. Some brutal shit.

Was when Woodley rocked him I thought

[poopoo333]

The more I look and think...Kennedy/Rockhold goes 5 rd distance +180 is a great deal

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The white lady behind is covering her mouth in shock. Is that when Marquardt or Tyron was getting beat up??

[sirchadwick1]

Had a good night of favs! Except for Kahn, that was ugly.

[Demonata]

Nothing like watching awesome fights and making money at the same time.

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Was when Woodley rocked him I thought

K thanks.

I still can't believe some parents bring their young kids to see the fight. Watching your dad get absolutely massacred live is psychologically traumatizing shit for young kids.

[spargament]

This was absolutely the worst display of 'professional' mma I have ever seen in what is supposedly a 'major' promotion. Pathetic. Rockhold should be embarrassed to be champion, Kennedy should be remanded to a place where he can never fight on television ever again. Being Strikeforce Middleweight Champion means you're about half as competent as whoever the last middleweight to be released by the UFC is. EVERY SINGLE UFC MIDDLEWEIGHT would ANNIHILATE Rockhold. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Anderson Silva should fight Rockhold, Kennedy, and whoever the #3 ranked MW was going into that fight at the same time and see how long it takes him to knock out or sub all of them, my money would be under 5 minutes.

[spargament]

I know I posted this in the thread my previous post was nominated in, but I just want the whole world to know and be prepared when you guys hop on Sherdog in a couple days...

I plan on challenging Luke Rockhold for his Strikeforce Middleweight Championship when I wake up in the morning. When I win, I'm going to sell the belt for $2.14, old gym socks, and a burnt copy of the Now 9 CD because it has the Rollout radio edit by Ludacris on it.

[Bradbatross]

This was absolutely the worst display of 'professional' mma I have ever seen in what is supposedly a 'major' promotion. Pathetic. Rockhold should be embarrassed to be champion, Kennedy should be remanded to a place where he can never fight on television ever again. Being Strikeforce Middleweight Champion means you're about half as competent as whoever the last middleweight to be released by the UFC is. EVERY SINGLE UFC MIDDLEWEIGHT would ANNIHILATE Rockhold. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Anderson Silva should fight Rockhold, Kennedy, and whoever the #3 ranked MW was going into that fight at the same time and see how long it takes him to knock out or sub all of them, my money would be under 5 minutes.

What are you talking about, Rockhold is a beast. I'm sure he'll be brought into the UFC soon enough.

[Beelzebubzy]

3u Nate -125
.5u Larkin -120
.5u Couture -165
1u Rockhold/Kennedy Goes Distance +180
1u Rockhold Kennedy ITD Evens
1U Healy/Khan/Jones -153 V Tail

+3.1u profit if my math is right

[spargament]

What are you talking about, Rockhold is a beast. I'm sure he'll be brought into the UFC soon enough.

I really hope so. Because I'm not gonna sit here and call you an idiot now. I'm gonna sit here, laugh hysterically, wait until he gets this call from Dana or Joe Silva you're SO convinced he's going to get; and once some no-name absolutely wipes the floor with him, THEN I'll call you an idiot.

He and Kennedy are the most godawful champion/#1 contender of a 'major promotion' I have ever seen since Elvis Sinosic and Tito Ortiz back in the day. FYI, Sinosic finished his career under .500

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I think you're being overly critical of Rockhold but I understand where you're coming from. He leaves a lot to be desired from a champion. His win over Jacare was not convincing either.

He would get massacred against the top UFC MWs like Anderson, Weidman as well as possibly Vitor & Lombard. I think Bisping and him would put up a close striking battle. Same goes with Belcher. Munoz wouldn't have much for him on the feet but he could clinch>TD Luke and possibly grind out a few rounds if his chin didn't fail him; would still favour Luke in this spot.

Honestly I don't care to see him come over to the UFC anytime soon. He doesn't offer much to the elite of the division and he'd just be stealing opportunities away from legit contenders like Weidman & Lombard if Zuffa tried to promote a champion vs champion fight. Given how shit the Rockhold vs Kennedy fight was (and the Jacare fight was), thankfully it won't happen anytime soon.

Larkin vs Rockhold would be a nice stylistic matchup though.

[spargament]

I think you're being overly critical of Rockhold but I understand where you're coming from. He leaves a lot to be desired from a champion. His win over Jacare was not convincing either.

He would get massacred against the top UFC MWs like Anderson, Weidman as well as possibly Vitor & Lombard. I think Bisping and him would put up a close striking battle. Same goes with Belcher. Munoz wouldn't have much for him on the feet but he could clinch>TD Luke and possibly grind out a few rounds if his chin didn't fail him; would still favour Luke in this spot.

Honestly I don't care to see him come over to the UFC anytime soon. He doesn't offer much to the elite of the division and he'd just be stealing opportunities away from legit contenders like Weidman & Lombard if Zuffa tried to promote a champion vs champion fight. Given how shit the Rockhold vs Kennedy fight was (and the Jacare fight was), thankfully it won't happen anytime soon.

Larkin vs Rockhold would be a nice stylistic matchup though.

Finally some sense.

While I think you're severely underrating both Bisping and Munoz in your statements, I couldn't agree more with the idea that Rockhold in the UFC=stealing opportunities from guys that are TRULY amongst the best middleweights in the world.

But backtracking slightly for just a second; if you think Munoz would not VICIOUSLY destroy Rockhold with GnP within two rounds you're sorely mistaken. I do, however agree that Bisping wouldn't entirely outclass Rockhold to the point of humiliation, especially if the fight went 5 rounds because Bisping has pillow hands like Rockhold does.

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Finally some sense.

While I think you're severely underrating both Bisping and Munoz in your statements, I couldn't agree more with the idea that Rockhold in the UFC=stealing opportunities from guys that are TRULY amongst the best middleweights in the world.

But backtracking slightly for just a second; if you think Munoz would not VICIOUSLY destroy Rockhold with GnP within two rounds you're sorely mistaken. I do, however agree that Bisping wouldn't entirely outclass Rockhold to the point of humiliation, especially if the fight went 5 rounds because Bisping has pillow hands like Rockhold does.

Rockhold has very respectable defensive grappling. He's avoided some turbulent positions with Kennedy & Jacare and I question whether he'll be put on his back with Munoz posturing up to land vicious GnP. I think it's definitely possible as I said, but I think Luke may tune Munoz up on the feet. His chin is soft man... Catone, Grove, Maia, Hamill & now Weidman have all either rocked, dropped or finished him. Not really a murderer's row of KO artists.

Regardless, Luke Rockhold is the one SF champ that I don't wanna see in the UFC. Gilbert and Marquardt hell yes... it seems harsh but I almost think of Luke like the standup equivalent of Jon Fitch. Anyone with some semblance of a chin and striking defence (read: not Jardine) will just get picked apart for 25 boring minutes. Maybe I'm alone here, but his style just doesn't seem exciting to me at all.

[sideloaded]

hector lombard is a glass jawed \*\*\*\*\*\* can

[TheCalculator]

hector lombard is a glass jawed \*\*\*\*\*\* can

The guy's never been KOed?

[Sykes]

Bisping would point him to Sunday. Larkin could join to the lower levels, build him up, seems like a game guy.

[Vaughany]

Rockhold has very respectable defensive grappling. He's avoided some turbulent positions with Kennedy & Jacare and I question whether he'll be put on his back with Munoz posturing up to land vicious GnP. I think it's definitely possible as I said, but I think Luke may tune Munoz up on the feet. His chin is soft man... Catone, Grove, Maia, Hamill & now Weidman have all either rocked, dropped or finished him. Not really a murderer's row of KO artists.

Regardless, Luke Rockhold is the one SF champ that I don't wanna see in the UFC. Gilbert and Marquardt hell yes... it seems harsh but I almost think of Luke like the standup equivalent of Jon Fitch. Anyone with some semblance of a chin and striking defence (read: not Jardine) will just get picked apart for 25 boring minutes. Maybe I'm alone here, but his style just doesn't seem exciting to me at all.

There is a difference between a soft chin and having poor defence. 3 out of those 4 rocked him but he recovered and went on to win the fight...if anything IMO tht shows he has solid recovery but poor defence. Are u saying tht fighters who dont have soft chins would of taken tht Matt Hamill head kick and kept goin?

[Thor4140]

Luke is a good fighter. Nobody is gonna look good chasing a guy for five rounds who is a world class wrestler. there is a reason Kennedy kept running and it wasn't because Luke is a shitty fighter. His length will cause a lot of problems to guys who actually want to fight.

[Demonata]

Rockhold is a good strikeforce Fighter. Would not mind seeing Gracie go into UFC though. He would do great there.

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There is a difference between a soft chin and having poor defence. 3 out of those 4 rocked him but he recovered and went on to win the fight...if anything IMO tht shows he has solid recovery but poor defence. Are u saying tht fighters who dont have soft chins would of taken tht Matt Hamill head kick and kept goin?

Of course but IMO guys with "good" chins would've walked through the Catone & Maia strikes without being rocked. His legs tend to buckle when he gets hit flush. I would say that while his chin is soft, his recovery is quite good... I agree. The Hamill headkick KO is more an example of poor striking defence than chin issues. Virtually no one can eat that kick.

I try to draw a clear distinction between "chin", "recovery" and "striking defence" because it often gets muddled in matchup analysis and can skew people's impressions of how the fight will go; I thought Wanderlei would get KOed far less likely than most vs Rich because the public was shitting on Wand's chin when, in reality, it's mainly his striking defence that has regressed as he's slowing down with age. Between his excellent recovery and Rich's mediocre power, the outcome would be totally different than someone with just a shot chin like Chuck.

So versus Luke, I don't know if between Munoz's lackluster striking defence & weak chin he'll be able to survive on the feet; he does have better resiliency than Jardine these days. Regardless, it's all hypothetical because I imagine that most people don't care to see it.

[PunisherIND]

This was absolutely the worst display of 'professional' mma I have ever seen in what is supposedly a 'major' promotion. Pathetic. Rockhold should be embarrassed to be champion, Kennedy should be remanded to a place where he can never fight on television ever again. Being Strikeforce Middleweight Champion means you're about half as competent as whoever the last middleweight to be released by the UFC is. EVERY SINGLE UFC MIDDLEWEIGHT would ANNIHILATE Rockhold. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Anderson Silva should fight Rockhold, Kennedy, and whoever the #3 ranked MW was going into that fight at the same time and see how long it takes him to knock out or sub all of them, my money would be under 5 minutes.

its not a good sign when the promotion still has nick diaz highlights in the opening sequence.

[Beelzebubzy]

Edgar = Good Recovery
Hendo, Leben= Good Chins
Munoz = Overrated MMA fighter
Dollaway, Jardine, Schaub = weak Chins

[bjpenn85]

in which category would you like to put Hamman??