UFC 149: Calgary (July 21 2012)

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-17-12, 11:57 AM

Riddle at -115 on bookmaker

**Vaughany** · 07-17-12, 12:01 PM

Ebersole -330

**Vaughany** · 07-17-12, 12:01 PM

-320 rather

**PunisherIND** · 07-17-12, 12:15 PM

fyi, 5d has the riddle-clements line, but its listed under reduced juice. will probably have the other ones shortly.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 07-17-12, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

fyi, 5d has the riddle-clements line, but its listed under reduced juice. will probably have the other ones shortly.

Funny there is nothing "reduced" about the juice at all.

**PunisherIND** · 07-17-12, 12:41 PM

5d has ebersole -360 / head +270, and riddle -140 / clements +110

**PunisherIND** · 07-17-12, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

Funny there is nothing "reduced" about the juice at all.

not at all.

i think they are doing this so people cant parlay... or its just the customary 5d screw up.

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-17-12, 12:48 PM

Don understand the riddle love he is going to hav e to wrestle here or shadow box and steal rounds

**bjpenn85** · 07-17-12, 12:52 PM

Do you mean sportsbet? I have 5dimes, and those bets are not listed.

**AdamB** · 07-17-12, 01:18 PM

PaddyPower has Court McGee 4/6 / Nick Ring 11/10.

**PunisherIND** · 07-17-12, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Do you mean sportsbet? I have 5dimes, and those bets are not listed.

5dimes does have it listed, under Reduced. ebersole -380 now. riddle -165.

**Vaughany** · 07-17-12, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Don understand the riddle love he is going to hav e to wrestle here or shadow box and steal rounds

Cant bring myself to bet on Riddle, especially as favourite!

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-17-12, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Cant bring myself to bet on Riddle, especially as favourite!

I concur. Wait I mean riddle looks amazing

5 units riddle at -137. I would play him up til -250

**PunisherIND** · 07-17-12, 03:52 PM

mcgee-ring line is jumping all over the place. people farting on both sides.

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-17-12, 03:55 PM

Fight goes the distance

**Vaughany** · 07-17-12, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Fight goes the distance

Yep, jus maxed the McGee at +120 and Evens. Will hedge with Ring by decision

**poopoo333** · 07-17-12, 04:04 PM

I actually bet big on Ring with a plan on hedging McGee by decision.

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-17-12, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Yep, jus maxed the McGee at +120 and Evens. Will hedge with Ring by decision

McGee is not UFC quality. Tavares is the only one out of that group that has promise.
I have that same play Mr. Vaughany.

**Vaughany** · 07-17-12, 04:10 PM

Might even get Ring back as underdog again by end of week so can just get both at + odds as another option

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-17-12, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Might even get Ring back as underdog again by end of week so can just get both at + odds as another option

Is this the best thing to do? Or playing one side with "value"
would love to hear nunya or dfc opinion on this
i have played both sides at positives and will do it again with Jordan Kongo

**Vaughany** · 07-17-12, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Is this the best thing to do? Or playing one side with "value"
would love to hear nunya or dfc opinion on this
i have played both sides at positives and will do it again with Jordan Kongo

I dont really have any great insight on who's gonna win so I'd rather take the risk free option! As u say, its likely to go to decision and I'd give McGee the slight edge because of his will to win and ability to grind it out but Ring is superior striker for sure and decision could go either way depending what mood the judges are in (like the TUF fight which most thought Ring didnt win)

**v1y** · 07-17-12, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

McGee is not UFC quality. Tavares is the only one out of that group that has promise.
I have that same play Mr. Vaughany.

may be true, but mcgee finished tavares on the show.

**bjpenn85** · 07-17-12, 04:35 PM

Its a very good question that i also ask myself. Nunya and who else says it...cant remember ..say that winning on mma is not about picking winners, but to find the correct odds to bet on is the way to go and while i think this is true, i think that you can win by only picking winners, if you are conservative in your approach. The fact is that most people easily get persuaded to play a lot, instead of less of various reason, one being, its F awesome to bet.

In this particular case, it think its better in the long run, to either stay out of these fights, which are so closely contested, rather than picking one side. I wouldnt play mcgee under 150-170+ since ring edges mcgee both standing and on the ground.

**Vaughany** · 07-17-12, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

I dont really have any great insight on who's gonna win so I'd rather take the risk free option! As u say, its likely to go to decision and I'd give McGee the slight edge because of his will to win and ability to grind it out but Ring is superior striker for sure and decision could go either way depending what mood the judges are in (like the TUF fight which most thought Ring didnt win)

ha meant to put *Court didnt win* not Ring!

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-17-12, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

I dont really have any great insight on who's gonna win so I'd rather take the risk free option! As u say, its likely to go to decision and I'd give McGee the slight edge because of his will to win and ability to grind it out but Ring is superior striker for sure and decision could go either way depending what mood the judges are in (like the TUF fight which most thought Ring didnt win)

My point exactly I'll take risk free gain of .2

**Bradbatross** · 07-17-12, 04:53 PM

Who do you guys have between Delorme and Rivera. Personally I think Rivera wins by TKO.

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-17-12, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

Who do you guys have between Delorme and Rivera. Personally I think Rivera wins by TKO.

Delorme has a great chin and the ability to recover.

**Bradbatross** · 07-17-12, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Delorme has a great chin and the
ability to recover.

Yea but a guy can only take so much punishment. Rivera has great striking and heavy hands that should do the job.

**Vaughany** · 07-17-12, 05:02 PM

Tough one to call for sure. You'll probably get Rivera as underdog tho

**Beelzebubzy** · 07-17-12, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by v1y

may be true, but mcgee finished tavares on the show.

Styles make fights. Wasn't it controversial? Can't recall

**Bradbatross** · 07-17-12, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Tough one to call for sure. You'll probably get Rivera as underdog tho

Hopefully, he should add some good value to my parlays. I don't think it's that hard to call, it's not like Delorme is going to be able to get a takedown

**Vaughany** · 07-17-12, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

Hopefully, he should add some good value to my parlays. I don't think it's that hard to call, it's not like Delorme is going to be able to get a takedown

Rivera will be difficult to takedown but I wouldnt be surprised if Delorme drags him down with a body-lock or trip at some point. Delorme is a black-belt in Judo (was National Champion) so he certainly has ways to get the fight to the mat. Yes it's unlikely he shoots in on a double or singe-leg takedown tho

**gabe** · 07-17-12, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Rivera will be difficult to takedown but I wouldnt be surprised if Delorme drags him down with a body-lock or trip at some point. Delorme is a black-belt in Judo (was National Champion) so he certainly has ways to get the fight to the mat. Yes it's unlikely he shoots in on a double or singe-leg takedown tho

could pull guard, too.

**Bradbatross** · 07-17-12, 05:22 PM

If the fight goes anything like the Nick Denis fight or the Soto fight Rivera is going to knock Delorme out.

**Vaughany** · 07-17-12, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by gabe

could pull guard, too.

True dat