UFC 139: Hendo vs Shogun

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  • The HOFF
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    • 07-02-08
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    #141
    Neither mmajunkie or mmaweekly have photos of Brown vs Baczynski. Weird.
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    • The HOFF
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      • 07-02-08
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      #142
      From Ben Fowlkes on mmafighting.com

      "My pick: Bowles. He might look like Opie Taylor going up against Point Break-era Patrick Swayze, but it's not a beauty contest, people."

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      • THE_LOCKSMITH
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        • 08-25-08
        • 7237

        #143
        great looking card, i actually have some interest in every single fight
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        • Vitooch
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          • 09-26-11
          • 3470

          #144
          Originally posted by scofflaw
          Agree. I've noticed a trend through a bunch of threads that we share a lot of the same opinions on fights. I don't think I've ever disagreed with anything I've seen you say.

          Here are my picks for 139. I should make my own thread to log this stuff, but I figure I'm not good enough at capping to be influencing anyone. Meh.. here we go.

          Faber - 10u
          Kampmann - 3u
          Silva - 1u
          Bonner - .5u
          Weidman -.5u
          >.5 on Bader, Baczynski, RDA, McDonald, Hendo

          Parlay (.5)
          Faber, Weidman, Torres
          Faber, Hendo, Torres.

          Faber is my biggest play and he'll make or break the night. Bowles hasn't looked good in either of his UFC fights. I think Faber is better at everything and the price on him is a great.

          I lean Kampmann because he's so technically sound and well rounded. His slow starts are a little worrying but I can't see Story beating Kampmann any other way than cage stalling ala Alves. I think Kampmann's grappling is too good for Story to be able to dictate the fight.

          I'm don't really like Silva, I just need that action! lol. The deciding factor for me was simply experience. Silva has been in the cage with the best and Le is relatively inexperienced in MMA. Le throws loads of kicks with straight punches, compared to Silva's mostly wild looping strikes. Le's style looks awkward at times and I'm curious to see how he'll stack up against more relevant fighters. I'll take a wild guess and say I think Wand tags Le with a clean counter hook and drops him for the TKO... but I wouldn't be surprised if Le put the lights out with any solid connection.. I don't think it will be a kick though.

          Might go bigger on Hendo.

          I don't think I've ever liked so many underdogs in an event.. I'm a little worried
          Hate to say it but I have to disagree with you on the Kampmann/Story fight. My write-up for this fight is on my MMA picks thread...I don't think people are giving Story enough credit. Beating Hendricks and Alves in a row is quite an accomplishment. Putting his fight with Brenneman aside, I Story has really been able to utilize his grappling first gameplan quite successfully. I will even go as far as to suggest he may finish this fight inside the distance by some sort of choke...
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          • Vaughany
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            • 03-07-10
            • 45563

            #145
            Originally posted by Vitooch
            Hate to say it but I have to disagree with you on the Kampmann/Story fight. My write-up for this fight is on my MMA picks thread...I don't think people are giving Story enough credit. Beating Hendricks and Alves in a row is quite an accomplishment. Putting his fight with Brenneman aside, I Story has really been able to utilize his grappling first gameplan quite successfully. I will even go as far as to suggest he may finish this fight inside the distance by some sort of choke...
            Depends which Story shows up and which Kampmann shows up! Although its not impossible I'd be very surprised if Story choked out Kampmann. Kampmann's grappling is legit - dominating P.Thiago and Volkmann is testament to that.
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            • appleman
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              • 11-06-11
              • 98

              #146
              got to go with hendo and silva for tonight
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              • Vitooch
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                • 09-26-11
                • 3470

                #147
                Originally posted by Vaughany
                Depends which Story shows up and which Kampmann shows up! Although its not impossible I'd be very surprised if Story choked out Kampmann. Kampmann's grappling is legit - dominating P.Thiago and Volkmann is testament to that.
                As much as the Brenneman loss looks bad, I still look at Story as the guy who went undefeated in his previous six fights against some legit competition. That sort of tremendous consistency against some high level fighters makes that loss to Charlie seem fluke-ish. Expect to see the Story that smothered Hendricks, Foster and Alves show up tonight in such a big fight that he has prepared for months in advance.

                Kampmann has a ton of talent (I consider him a very underrated fighter), but seems to have less of a knack for securing decisions and wins as compared to Story who usually wins decisively. Look at the Sanchez and Shields fights. Puts on a great performance in both fights but just doesn't do enough to make the judges favor him. Alot of it has to do with his style of fighting, and how judges tend to favor grapplers more than strikers/BJJ guys

                This fight may be hotly contested, but Story's style of octagon control and grappling first will probably be enough to secure and edge out close rounds in the judges eyes. If Kampmann wins it will most likely be by submission, perhaps a guillotine but I like my odds that Story rides out a decision.

                The joke was a shot in the dark but if it lands I expect a from you Vaughany
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                • Vaughany
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                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #148
                  I like how 5dimes/sportbet have Shogun by Submission at +1410 and Shogun SOTN at +800!!!
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                  • tokio
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-30-10
                    • 2150

                    #149
                    My picks tonight: Shogun, Bader, Bowles, and Tibau.
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                    • TrajaD
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 04-12-11
                      • 225

                      #150
                      show my gun
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                      • SATERSTYLE
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 09-07-11
                        • 691

                        #151
                        Already on Cung Le

                        Thinking about going on Baczynski and Kingsbury... been flip flopping around on these fights a lot
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                        • Educ8d Degener8
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                          • 01-12-10
                          • 3177

                          #152
                          Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                          Only plays thus far...

                          0.50u Story by decision +160 --> I'm torn on this fight, but think this presents the best value
                          0.50u Bonnar by decision +320 --> considering adding more here
                          0.50u Torres -360, Faber -235, Cung Wandy not distance -400
                          ...
                          Adding

                          0.50u Matt Brown -135
                          0.50u Hendo +120
                          0.25u Bonnar by decision +309
                          0.25u Silva inside distance +211
                          0.13u Lawlor +265
                          0.13u Faber -230, Weidman -325, Cung Wandy not distance -380
                          0.13u Hendo +115, Faber -230, Story -140, Bonnar +130, Torres -370, Brown -135
                          0.13u Dos Anjos +145, Michael Chandler +190
                          0.06u Shogun by sub +1410
                          0.06u Lawler KOTN +2500


                          Really looking forward to this event. GL guys
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                          • rocky mattioli
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-26-10
                            • 1263

                            #153
                            Originally posted by Vitooch
                            As much as the Brenneman loss looks bad, I still look at Story as the guy who went undefeated in his previous six fights against some legit competition. That sort of tremendous consistency against some high level fighters makes that loss to Charlie seem fluke-ish. Expect to see the Story that smothered Hendricks, Foster and Alves show up tonight in such a big fight that he has prepared for months in advance.

                            Kampmann has a ton of talent (I consider him a very underrated fighter), but seems to have less of a knack for securing decisions and wins as compared to Story who usually wins decisively. Look at the Sanchez and Shields fights. Puts on a great performance in both fights but just doesn't do enough to make the judges favor him. Alot of it has to do with his style of fighting, and how judges tend to favor grapplers more than strikers/BJJ guys

                            This fight may be hotly contested, but Story's style of octagon control and grappling first will probably be enough to secure and edge out close rounds in the judges eyes. If Kampmann wins it will most likely be by submission, perhaps a guillotine but I like my odds that Story rides out a decision.

                            The joke was a shot in the dark but if it lands I expect a from you Vaughany

                            truthfully,if i`m actually a fan of any mma fighter(i hate using the term "fan"),it would be kampmann....i love the fact that`s he`s proficient everywhere...it`s just a damned shame that he doesn`t have the fight i.q. to go along with his complete skillset....

                            i have a small kampmann wager pending at +120....but i`m strongly considering overbetting story via decision at a little better than +1.5......i can picture story grinding kampmann against the fence and finally taking him down and stalling for long periods on the mat...
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                            • sztukmistrz
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 11-05-11
                              • 10

                              #154
                              2u Hendo +131 Pinny
                              3u Story -128 Pinny
                              2u Silva +146 Pinny
                              5u Silva/Le won't starts round 2 +430 5d
                              3u Bonnar +136 Pinny
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                              • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-25-08
                                • 7237

                                #155
                                lol, Wandy up to +160 at Bodog, will it go higher???
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                                • Wanna Bet On It?
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-17-11
                                  • 1032

                                  #156
                                  My first SBRforum post! Long time creeper, first time poster.

                                  For UFC 139 I'm going prop and parlay heavy. I see lots of value plays.

                                  Hendo $40 to win $50, Shogun Rd1 $20 to win $80
                                  Le $4 to win $20 (arbed), Silva Rd1 $20 to win $83
                                  Faber -3.5 $30 to win $50, Faber ITD $10 to win $57, Bowles KOTN $5 to win $95
                                  Story Dec $20 to win $31, Kampmann Rd3 $5 to win $110
                                  Weidman Sub $20 to win $55, Weidman SOTN $5 to win $55
                                  Bader T/KO $30 to win $81
                                  dos Anjos $30 to win $50

                                  Parlays
                                  RDA/Bader KO/Faber ITD/Silva Rd1/Hendo $2.5 to win $1,405
                                  RDA/Kampmann ITD/Faber ITD/Hendo ITD $2.5 to win $773
                                  RDA/Kingsbury Dec/Faber ITD/Silva ITD $2.5 to win 348
                                  Kampmann ITD/Silva Rd1/Hendo $2.5 to win $186
                                  Bader KO/Silva Rd1/Shogun Rd1 $2.5 to win $233
                                  Weidman Sub/Bader KO/Kingsbury Dec/Shogun Rd1 $2.5 to win $432
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by Wanna Bet On It?
                                    My first SBRforum post! Long time creeper, first time poster.

                                    For UFC 139 I'm going prop and parlay heavy. I see lots of value plays.

                                    Hendo $40 to win $50, Shogun Rd1 $20 to win $80
                                    Le $4 to win $20 (arbed), Silva Rd1 $20 to win $83
                                    Faber -3.5 $30 to win $50, Faber ITD $10 to win $57, Bowles KOTN $5 to win $95
                                    Story Dec $20 to win $31, Kampmann Rd3 $5 to win $110
                                    Weidman Sub $20 to win $55, Weidman SOTN $5 to win $55
                                    Bader T/KO $30 to win $81
                                    dos Anjos $30 to win $50

                                    Parlays
                                    RDA/Bader KO/Faber ITD/Silva Rd1/Hendo $2.5 to win $1,405
                                    RDA/Kampmann ITD/Faber ITD/Hendo ITD $2.5 to win $773
                                    RDA/Kingsbury Dec/Faber ITD/Silva ITD $2.5 to win 348
                                    Kampmann ITD/Silva Rd1/Hendo $2.5 to win $186
                                    Bader KO/Silva Rd1/Shogun Rd1 $2.5 to win $233
                                    Weidman Sub/Bader KO/Kingsbury Dec/Shogun Rd1 $2.5 to win $432
                                    GL bro...I think Shogun's best chance of finishing is Rd 1 too
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                                    • The HOFF
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                                      #158
                                      Looks like Bookmaker has live betting on every fight!!
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                                      • GoGoGadget
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                                        • 03-18-09
                                        • 570

                                        #159
                                        lets us know of any interesting in-fight odds. Do you have to sign up to see them?
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                                        • The HOFF
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                                          • 07-02-08
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                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by GoGoGadget
                                          lets us know of any interesting in-fight odds. Do you have to sign up to see them?
                                          I would assume so. It's actually a different window and log in that pops up for it.
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                                          • jacktheknife
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                                            • 09-25-10
                                            • 1217

                                            #161
                                            Got a super small hail mary RR on Seth, Dos Anjos, Lawlor, Kingsbury, Story, Silva, and Hendo

                                            Got .7u on Castillo, McDonald, Bader, Torres and Rhonda Rousey.

                                            On Hendo straight up at +120 for 1.6u

                                            Way the lines are going I'll probably get on Faber, Wanderlei and Story straight. Luckers.
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                                            • Vaughany
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                                              • 03-07-10
                                              • 45563

                                              #162
                                              Castillo odds wer right afterall!
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                                              • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                                • 08-25-08
                                                • 7237

                                                #163
                                                Castillo way too much
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                                                • The HOFF
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                                                  • 07-02-08
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                                                  #164
                                                  Bailey was clearly overmatched, but pretty weak stoppage.
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                                                  • Vaughany
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                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                    • 45563

                                                    #165
                                                    Yeah weak especially as there was only few secs left of rnd
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                                                    • Vaughany
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                                                      • 03-07-10
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                                                      #166
                                                      Need this one to go 1.5
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                                                      • The HOFF
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                                                        #167
                                                        As long as Seth wins!
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                                                        • GoldRush7
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                                                          • 04-27-09
                                                          • 2014

                                                          #168
                                                          Baczynski here, one of my fav dogs of the night... lets go!
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                                                          • The HOFF
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                                                            • 07-02-08
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                                                            #169
                                                            Well Bookmaker live betting is not running for these.
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                                                            • spurginobili
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                                                              • 05-09-09
                                                              • 3065

                                                              #170
                                                              Ive got Seth here too; something about Brown that I don't like.
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                                                              • Vaughany
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                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #171
                                                                Great sweep from the Immortal! Love watching Matt Brown fight
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                                                                • Vaughany
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                                  • 45563

                                                                  #172
                                                                  TOugh round to call...need it to go another 2min30! C'MON!
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                                                                  • TheCalculator
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                                                                    • 10-10-11
                                                                    • 1683

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by The HOFF
                                                                    Looks like Bookmaker has live betting on every fight!!
                                                                    BETDSI (who's basically Bookmaker) is another option. Thanks Hoff!
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                                                                    • The HOFF
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                                                                      • 07-02-08
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                                                                      #174
                                                                      YES!!
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #175
                                                                        ha damn! Brown's lack of sub defence proves to be his downfall again
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