gabe's 137

**bogbat** · 10-29-11, 02:07 AM

What are your amounts? And what do you mean by not making Marshall and Diaz "a play" even though you're saying that you're placing money on them?

**gabe** · 10-29-11, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by bogbat

What are your amounts? And what do you mean by not making Marshall and Diaz "a play" even though you're saying that you're placing money on them?

I'm placing money to make the fights a little more interesting, though I don't need to do anything to make Diaz vs Penn more interesting. I just meant that I wouldn't recommend others to put their money on those fights. I usually bet on all the fights, but they're not all plays/picks.

I've placed small bets so far. Biggest bet yet is to win $200 on Mitrione. I will certainly be putting more down on the fights tomorrow. See myself doubling down on Mitrione.

**Vaughany** · 10-29-11, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by gabe

I'm placing money to make the fights a little more interesting, though I don't need to do anything to make Diaz vs Penn more interesting. I just meant that I wouldn't recommend others to put their money on those fights. I usually bet on all the fights, but they're not all plays/picks.

I've placed small bets so far. Biggest bet yet is to win $200 on Mitrione. I will certainly be putting more down on the fights tomorrow. See myself doubling down on Mitrione.

Tomorrow? The fights are tonight aren't they?! How many hours are u behind over there!

**gabe** · 10-29-11, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Tomorrow? The fights are tonight aren't they?! How many hours are u behind over there!

it's 4am, i just got home from the comedy store. still friday to me, since i haven't gone to bed yet, but yeah, technically it's saturday.

**Vaughany** · 10-29-11, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by gabe

it's 4am, i just got home from the comedy store. still friday to me, since i haven't gone to bed yet, but yeah, technically it's saturday.

ha ah I see, thought I'd got days wrong for a minute

**gabe** · 10-29-11, 10:53 PM

Chris Camozzi - Lost $96
Ramsey Nijem - Won $80
Brandon Vera - Won $25
Bart Palaszewski - Won $213
Donald Cerrone - Won $333 (went all-in here)
George Roop - Lost $90 (robbed)
Jeff Curran - Lost $55
Mirko Cro Cop - Lost $40
Matt Mitrione - Lost $212
Nick Diaz - Won $165

Total: +$313

worst card for me thus far, pick-wise.

**Hannibal** · 10-30-11, 02:00 AM

you really are jesus
lost pretty much all the picks you posted beforehand.. yet you still won $313 and it was your worse night ever hahahahaha

**bogbat** · 10-30-11, 02:54 AM

I knew he would come into this thread claiming he is up on the night even though he went 1-5 on his plays.

Seriously, no one cares if you win or lose. Just be honest.

**Vaughany** · 10-30-11, 05:04 AM

**snake11eyes** · 10-30-11, 01:01 PM

How do you go all-in on somebody, but not even mention them in your initial post.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 10-30-11, 01:05 PM

LOL

**Kaladarus** · 10-30-11, 01:27 PM

Everything except what you mentioned was some how a win. You bet Vera even though you were leaning Marshall because of the price. You bet to win $200 on Mittrione saying you might double that one and it would be your biggest play. Mittrione was never -106 on any sportsbook, but some how you only lost $212 on him. Mittrione was also not your biggest play. Then on the fights you won for some reason you had quite a bit of money on them even though they weren't your main plays.

You can see why all this is kind of laughable and how no one believes you. Nothing here adds up. You can post plays and not post amounts that's fine, you can say you made a little off the fights you didn't mention as plays, but if you want to build a reputation as a good handicapper and get people to follow you're going to have to change how you post. Based on what you posted it is impossible for anyone to believe any of the numbers you ended up with.

**gabe** · 10-30-11, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Everything except what you mentioned was some how a win. You bet Vera even though you were leaning Marshall because of the price. You bet to win $200 on Mittrione saying you might double that one and it would be your biggest play. Mittrione was never -106 on any sportsbook, but some how you only lost $212 on him. Mittrione was also not your biggest play. Then on the fights you won for some reason you had quite a bit of money on them even though they weren't your main plays.

You can see why all this is kind of laughable and how no one believes you. Nothing here adds up. You can post plays and not post amounts that's fine, you can say you made a little off the fights you didn't mention as plays, but if you want to build a reputation as a good handicapper and get people to follow you're going to have to change how you post. Based on what you posted it is impossible for anyone to believe any of the numbers you ended up with.

I'm posting mostly for myself now, now at least I can keep track of what I win per card. Only reason I risked to win $25 on Vera is because Nijem won. If he hadn't, I would have skipped that fight. I didn't place all my final bets before the fight. I place my bets fight by fight. The amount I bet depends on if I won the previous bet or not. I was doing well so I went with Cerrone. I LOVED Cerrone initially, but I didn't wanna make him a pick because of the line. I was winning, and BigDay's post gave me confidence, so I went all in on him.

I took Mitrione at -145. He was my biggest bet on Friday, but obviously on fight night it was Cerrone. Should I have not made the Cerrone bet just because I didn't mention it on this thread? lol go fuk yourselves and don't read my threads- assume i'm just posting for myself to keep track of my shit.

**gabe** · 10-30-11, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Hannibal

you really are jesus
lost pretty much all the picks you posted beforehand.. yet you still won $313 and it was your worse night ever hahahahaha

i guess what you're trying to say is "damn man, you make pretty smart bets and are a winner, 'cos even when you're losing, you come up winning! WINNING, DUHH!!!"

**gabe** · 10-30-11, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by snake11eyes

How do you go all-in on somebody, but not even mention them in your initial post.

Um, I'm a gambler. Trust me, this wasn't the first, nor the 21st time I've made a big last minute bet.

I thought Cerrone was a lock to win but didn't like the line to make him a play. BigDay's post gave me confidence, and I was doing well, so I went with my gut, and it paid off.

Thanks, haters!

**illmatick** · 10-30-11, 03:25 PM

good luck.

**Kaladarus** · 10-30-11, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by gabe

I'm placing money to make the fights a little more interesting, though I don't need to do anything to make Diaz vs Penn more interesting. I just meant that I wouldn't recommend others to put their money on those fights. I usually bet on all the fights, but they're not all plays/picks.

I've placed small bets so far. Biggest bet yet is to win $200 on Mitrione. I will certainly be putting more down on the fights tomorrow. See myself doubling down on Mitrione.

I took Mitrione at -145

Mitrione to win 200 at -145 = -290.

You bet to win $200 which means you bet $290, but you only lost $212. I guess the book gave you a $78 discount. You also said you would probably add to this. I don't mind believing that you didn't add, but come on man at least keep the stories on the stuff you post accurate.

**dww123** · 10-30-11, 04:01 PM

I'm a gambler too. Here were my bets.

Date placed:
Oct 26, 2011 2:42p

Date settled:
Oct 29, 2011 7:56p
Single #229386244 (Placed by Web)
Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
UFC 137 - Mandalay Bay Events Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
Both must fight for action.
(8054) Brandon "The Truth" Vera -450 Sat@7:30p

Final Scores
Eliot "The Fire" Marshall 0
Brandon "The Truth" Vera 1

Outcome: Win

Risk US$ 2250.00 to win US$ 500.00
Date placed:
Oct 27, 2011 9:35p

Date settled:
Oct 29, 2011 10:31p
Single #229520695 (Placed by Web)
Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
UFC 137 - Mandalay Bay Events Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
Both must fight for action.
(8019) Roy "Big Country" Nelson -240 Sat@10:00p

Final Scores
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic 0
Roy "Big Country" Nelson 1

Outcome: Win

Risk US$ 9600.00 to win US$ 4000.00

**Kaladarus** · 10-30-11, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Chris Camozzi - Lost $96
Ramsey Nijem - Won $80
Brandon Vera - Won $25
Bart Palaszewski - Won $213
Donald Cerrone - Won $333 (went all-in here)
George Roop - Lost $90 (robbed)
Jeff Curran - Lost $55
Mirko Cro Cop - Lost $40
Matt Mitrione - Lost $212
Nick Diaz - Won $165

Total: +$313

worst card for me thus far, pick-wise.

Figured I'd quote this too incase you couldn't find it.

**Vaughany** · 10-30-11, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Mitrione to win 200 at -145 = -290.

You bet to win $200 which means you bet $290, but you only lost $212. I guess the book gave you a $78 discount. You also said you would probably add to this. I don't mind believing that you didn't add, but come on man at least keep the stories on the stuff you post accurate.

**gabe** · 10-30-11, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Um, thanks for the dramatics, but i wasn't accurate before. my first mitrione bet i'm looking at is $159.50 to win $110 - i planned to make it $200 after my post, but i ended up not adding to it til fight time

**gabe** · 10-30-11, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Mitrione to win 200 at -145 = -290.

You bet to win $200 which means you bet $290, but you only lost $212. I guess the book gave you a $78 discount. You also said you would probably add to this. I don't mind believing that you didn't add, but come on man at least keep the stories on the stuff you post accurate.

i wasn't planning on betting on vera, cerrone, or diaz, but shit changes come fight time. i expected to go more on mitrione, but i didn't. i felt like i was doing good enough and didn't wanna risk too much on him. i was starting to feel less confident about that fight, especially when i saw kongo with tears in his eyes.

i'm never gonna say one thing and follow 100% accordingly when it comes to betting.

i know i come across looking like an idiot here, but that's simply because i don't care about any of this, and i'm stoned outta my mind every time i'm on this site.

i would have preferred to lose a few bucks and hit most of my picks. but i lost my picks and made a few hundred. i'm trying to have a solid record, i don't care about a few hundred bucks.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 10-30-11, 04:39 PM

I think you're a solid picker on here gabe, and you have valid insight. However, I do agree with some people in the thread that the way you go about posting your picks and how all the picks you posted lost, yet you stilll came up $, is a bit fishy. I have noticed the same thing in your other threads too. Its ok to be wrong on here dude.

I was blabbing how hioki was a lock, and how siver and mirko were going to upset. Technically I lost all my picks last night and I have no problem admitting to it and how wrong I was... You should admit when you've lost too if you really did lose your picks and had a horrible night as I did - it happens. Perhaps you're telling the truth, and I really don't care. I'm just saying that it does sound fishy is all and doesn't make you look good. Its better to be stoked when you win and admit when you lose and learn from it, people will respect it more. Either way if you really did come up last night, good job. Cheers.

**gabe** · 10-30-11, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

I think you're a solid picker on here gabe, and you have valid insight. However, I do agree with some people in the thread that the way you go about posting your picks and how all the picks you posted lost, yet you stilll came up $, is a bit fishy. I have noticed the same thing in your other threads too. Its ok to be wrong on here dude.

I was blabbing how hioki was a lock, and how siver and mirko were going to upset. Technically I lost all my picks last night and I have no problem admitting to it and how wrong I was... You should admit when you've lost too if you really did lose your picks and had a horrible night as I did - it happens. Perhaps you're telling the truth, and I really don't care. I'm just saying that it does sound fishy is all and doesn't make you look good. Its better to be stoked when you win and admit when you lose and learn from it, people will respect it more. Either way if you really did come up last night, good job. Cheers.

I get what you're saying and I 100% agree with you. I completely see how I come across. When I saw the card months ago, I loved Vera and Cerrone. I thought there was no way they could lose. But once the lines came out, I just didn't feel comfortable giving them out as plays. I wouldn't have bet on Vera if Nijem hadn't won, but since I did well with Bart as well (I mentioned I would bet on him, too, just didn't feel comfortable enough making him a pick, especially since Griffin weighed in at 149lbs), I risked it on Cerrone. It was more a gut move than anything. I didn't place one all-in bet. I made 5 or 6 different bets on Cerone all within 2 minutes, just before the fight started. As they were walking out, I felt more and more confident...

For UFC 138, I will say for sure every fight I will be betting on. I still can't say how much, though, 'cos I never know myself until seconds before fight-time.

And I've got some solids for 138! Been waiting for this card. I just hope the lines aren't juicy.

**Vaughany** · 10-30-11, 05:09 PM

Which book do you bet with Gabe?

**TheCalculator** · 10-30-11, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by gabe

For UFC 138, I will say for sure every fight I will be betting on. I still can't say how much, though, 'cos I never know myself until seconds before fight-time.

And I've got some solids for 138! Been waiting for this card. I just hope the lines aren't juicy.

Personally -- I'm excited to hear who your solids are for UFC 138. I'm sure a lot of there guys on here would too. It would be great if you would share your favorite 2 or 3 after the odds come out.

**gabe** · 10-30-11, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Which book do you bet with Gabe?

I don't use an offshore site, I have a guy.

**FightFightFight** · 10-30-11, 08:29 PM

You "have a guy" that you can bet with "seconds before" every fight?

**Vaughany** · 10-31-11, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by gabe

I don't use an offshore site, I have a guy.

Originally posted by FightFightFight

You "have a guy" that you can bet with "seconds before" every fight?

So u just ring him up and place the bets whilst the fighter is walking down to the octagon?

**bogbat** · 10-31-11, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by gabe

I get what you're saying and I 100% agree with you. I completely see how I come across. When I saw the card months ago, I loved Vera and Cerrone. I thought there was no way they could lose. But once the lines came out, I just didn't feel comfortable giving them out as plays. I wouldn't have bet on Vera if Nijem hadn't won, but since I did well with Bart as well (I mentioned I would bet on him, too, just didn't feel comfortable enough making him a pick, especially since Griffin weighed in at 149lbs), I risked it on Cerrone. It was more a gut move than anything. I didn't place one all-in bet. I made 5 or 6 different bets on Cerone all within 2 minutes, just before the fight started. As they were walking out, I felt more and more confident... For UFC 138, I will say for sure every fight I will be betting on. I still can't say how much, though, 'cos I never know myself until seconds before fight-time. And I've got some solids for 138! Been waiting for this card. I just hope the lines aren't juicy.

You didn't feel comfortable giving out juicy plays but you felt comfortable giving out plays that went 1-4

You should feel comfortable giving any plays out because its very unlikely anyone would actually tail you. Especially when there are members on these boards consistently winning long term who keep accurate logs.

If you truly are just posting to keep a record for yourself I suggest you instead invest in one of these for that purpose:

... because SBR is not your personal diary.

**gabe** · 10-31-11, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by bogbat

You didn't feel comfortable giving out juicy plays but you felt comfortable giving out plays that went 1-4

You should feel comfortable giving any plays out because its very unlikely anyone would actually tail you. Especially when there are members on these boards consistently winning long term who keep accurate logs.

If you truly are just posting to keep a record for yourself I suggest you instead invest in one of these for that purpose:

... because SBR is not your personal diary.

that's not "just" why i'm posting, son.

Yeah, I felt comfortable giving out plays that went 1-4. Because I knew they were gonna go 1-4. Right? You're an idiot. Go away.

**gabe** · 10-31-11, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by FightFightFight

You "have a guy" that you can bet with "seconds before" every fight?

I don't call him to place my bets. He works for higher ups who have a website. I use the site to bet, and collect/payout in person with my guy, who is a friend of mine. It's 2011, I'm surprised you had to ask that.

**gabe** · 10-31-11, 04:57 AM

In hindsight, I made terrible decisions with this card. I learned my lesson. I didn't include 3 out of 4 of the only fights I liked when I first saw the card (Vera, Cerrone, Mitrione, Diaz) If I had to give out picks on that day, I would have gone 3-1. I felt really good about all those guys. The ONLY reason I didn't make Vera and Cerrone picks were 'cos the lines disappointed me, and I started listening to what other people had to say and it made me think Penn had a much better chance than he actually did. Initially, I felt there was no way Diaz would lose to Penn at 170. I felt Penn couldn't pull that off. Diaz would beat him in every aspect of the fight. But I didn't stay in my own head and let others influence my decision making... Same thing can be said for the Camozzi fight... I was on Carmont, but after you guys talked up Camozzi, I ended up siding with him. That was really dumb of me. I've just made a lot of dumb moves. Lessons to be learned.

**Vaughany** · 10-31-11, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by gabe

In hindsight, I made terrible decisions with this card. I learned my lesson. I didn't include 3 out of 4 of the only fights I liked when I first saw the card (Vera, Cerrone, Mitrione, Diaz) If I had to give out picks on that day, I would have gone 3-1. I felt really good about all those guys. The ONLY reason I didn't make Vera and Cerrone picks were 'cos the lines disappointed me, and I started listening to what other people had to say and it made me think Penn had a much better chance than he actually did. Initially, I felt there was no way Diaz would lose to Penn at 170. I felt Penn couldn't pull that off. Diaz would beat him in every aspect of the fight. But I didn't stay in my own head and let others influence my decision making... Same thing can be said for the Camozzi fight... I was on Carmont, but after you guys talked up Camozzi, I ended up siding with him. That was really dumb of me. I've just made a lot of dumb moves. Lessons to be learned.

But you said that you did play Cerrone??? ...

Originally posted by gabe

Donald Cerrone - Won $333 (went all-in here)
.

And I still don't get where you saw everybody hating on Carmont and people talking up Camozzi??! Eccocide and I had Carmont and I cant see many references to either guy other than that?