Pacquiao or Mosley?? let me hear your opinions.

[KuLaPhU]

I cant even take this fight serious , Pac/Mosley 2011 is a joke. I really hope nobody pays for this shit. There have been some god awful Boxing/MMA cards lately. I wish Boxing had the marketing/promotion skills that MMA has , theres sooo many great young fighters out there that nobody knows about , its a shame.

this is the fight of the year.. how can you not watch the fight?? it's Mosley vs. Pacquiao homie!

[Hemlock21]

I haven't heard one shred of evidence why Pacquiao will win besides Shane is too old. I'm gonna assume pacquiao backers dislike Mayweather and thats the real reason why they're backing him. I have seen this movie before most recently Hopkins vs Pavlik and everyone said Hopkins was too old who also was trained by richardson. Shane is faster then paquiao and has equal power. Shane has never lost to a fighter shorter then him either. I think people should look at who Pacquiao has beaten slow over the hill mexican fighters with no speed who just stand in the middle of the ring. Manny is a fraud and media created. +900 for KO,TKO is the bet everyone should be looking at. U guys can thank me later

[AribaAriba]

^ok

[NunyaBidness]

I've never risked money on a DRAW in my life... and something tells me to let it ride. +5000. $500 to win 25k? Why not? LOL

No you're not.

[darko3131]

I don't think betting Pac Man straight up without MB is a good idea. I'm trying to decide where the value is between Pac Dec or Pac by KO.

[AribaAriba]

I've followed the line since it opened and it is moving the way it should be. take note that lines open +100 pac by inside and +130 pac by dec. The fact that Shane never got KO made the line make sense but the props of pac by inside is being pounded currently at -170. The weigh in would determine wether he will Ko him out or not because the heavier Shane and lighter pac on weigh in would give Pac the hard time going for KO. Leans on Ko for value and under as I can see a great entertaining offensive boxing match up base on the style of both boxers.

[HauntingTheHoly]

I think the UNDER is a good bet, or rather WAS a good bet. It's been pounded already. I predict a TKO for Pac. Shane's corner will stop it late.

This is in HINDSIGHT to a post I made on the last page. I should have bet the UNDER at that point. Too late now, I guess? *shrug* Pac will beat Shane and maybe pretty early. But if Shane does win, it must be by Early KO. The Over/Under is basically the full fight. Seems obvious now.

[phillybadboy]

pacman by decision +180

[ApricotSinner32]

I haven't heard one shred of evidence why Pacquiao will win besides Shane is too old. I'm gonna assume pacquiao backers dislike Mayweather and thats the real reason why they're backing him. I have seen this movie before most recently Hopkins vs Pavlik and everyone said Hopkins was too old who also was trained by richardson. Shane is faster then paquiao and has equal power. Shane has never lost to a fighter shorter then him either. I think people should look at who Pacquiao has beaten slow over the hill mexican fighters with no speed who just stand in the middle of the ring. Manny is a fraud and media created. +900 for KO,TKO is the bet everyone should be looking at. U guys can thank me later

Not a bad bet at that price.

[sideloaded]

Manny is a fraud

some of the worst analysis Ive seen in a long time.

[KuLaPhU]

Weigh in for Pacquiao Mosley Right now on espn

[teaserpleaser]

take the over it will go the distance unless there is a cut or fluke injury

[iQon]

I haven't heard one shred of evidence why Pacquiao will win besides Shane is too old. I'm gonna assume pacquiao backers dislike Mayweather and thats the real reason why they're backing him. I have seen this movie before most recently Hopkins vs Pavlik and everyone said Hopkins was too old who also was trained by richardson. Shane is faster then paquiao and has equal power. Shane has never lost to a fighter shorter then him either. I think people should look at who Pacquiao has beaten slow over the hill mexican fighters with no speed who just stand in the middle of the ring. Manny is a fraud and media created. +900 for KO,TKO is the bet everyone should be looking at. U guys can thank me later

Did you really just compare Shane Mosley to Bernard Hopkins, and Manny Pacquiao to Kelly Pavlik?

And then say that Shane is faster than Manny?
And that he won't lose... because he's never lost to someone shorter than him?



Your bookie is a lucky man.

[darko3131]

I like under 2.5 knockdowns -130 and under 1.5 knockdowns +175. If Manny wins by TKO I'd expect it to be a corner or ref stoppage.

[HauntingTheHoly]

I like the under 2.5 KD's, very nice. I agree that Shane getting stopped on his feet or stool is likely, but going down not very likely. Maybe once, but then finish on his feet. How much are you going to bet, darko? One unit? Or is it worth a lot more? Looks like it's good for one-plus to me. Will think on it.

[HauntingTheHoly]

WOW - Emergency "stop bet" - darko. That prop includes TKO as a "knock down"

Not at all the dream bet it was looking like. I was about to load up on it. I still like it, just not nearly as much. heh.

"Includes any tko" - that even means if the corner stops it between rounds it counts as a fuking KD.

[ApricotSinner32]

Important thing is to find where the value lies... not who will win.

[Vaughany]

Risk free arb for me...need Pacquiao by TKO/KO to make serious profit tho.

[wookieehumper]

What were the results of the weigh in? I like Pac by decision. Good value, and most likely outcome in my mind

[sundin4prez]

What were the results of the weigh in? I like Pac by decision. Good value, and most likely outcome in my mind

145 for pac, 147 for mosley..

mosley was shredded fwiw

[phillybadboy]

145 for pac, 147 for mosley.. mosley was shredded fwiw

sup man haven't seen you for awhile

[Hemlock21]

some of the worst analysis Ive seen in a long time.

really? How so? Tell me why you like ducquiao? besides that he is younger. No analysis from anyone on here yet as I expected

[Staten Ryan]

I want to see Manny vs sergio Martinez..thats a great fight...

This fight will be a beat down. Manny by TKO in 8th..

[spankie]

Important thing is to find where the value lies... not who will win.

........

Boxer A or Boxer B

One is a dog, one is a fav, you will automatically say value is the dog,

so.. its probably not hard to find the "value"...

huh?

[Hemlock21]

yes I did. Whats the difference? Pavlik beat a bunch of nobody's and everyone was all over him cause hopkins was old and didn't look good in previous fights. Fight time Hopkins was +500...If mosley wins which I think he will it will be by tko or ko and at +900. thats great value if you know boxing which I expect you don't

[Vaughany]

........

Boxer A or Boxer B

One is a dog, one is a fav, you will automatically say value is the dog,

so.. its probably not hard to find the "value"...

huh?

Yeah if anything the "value" is with Pacquiao by decision at +200 range.

[Hemlock21]

I want to see Manny vs sergio Martinez..thats a great fight...

This fight will be a beat down. Manny by TKO in 8th..

how? and why?

[rocky mattioli]

here`s what i was thinking....mosely will be 40 this year......he`s been jumping back and forth between 147 and 154 in his last few fights and this one is at 147...this isn`t easy at 40 yrs old....

he looked very,very slow vs money mayweather after almost hitting the lottery early.....i think that if mayweather was a finisher,he could have been the first to stop him.....he also struggled vs mora,who can`t break an egg....

what do mayweather and mora have in common?...speed...but neither is really much of a puncher...

enter manny..he has the work rate,the speed,a lefty stance and probably enough power to make life miserable for mosely......what`s worrisome about manny is that lately,he hasn`t seemed intent on finishing...i mean he beat margarito to a bloody pulp,but,didn`t finish...actually looked like he took his foot off the gas late vs margarito...

clottey was in survival mode the entire second half of their fight(it`s tough to finish when your opponent is just trying to survive)...and it took manny 12 to get cotto out...so recent history is sketchy as far as finishing...

and manny did look so much smaller at the weigh-in...did he go off the ped`s?...lol

because mosely has slipped quite a bit of late...and morphed into basically a "stand in front of you and bang" guy late in his career,i was thinking that manny might want to try and be the first to stop mosely....i think there will be a huge speed difference...hand and foot speed...

but he`s been a tad sketchy as a finisher of late....like it`s not really important to him....

he brutalizes these bigger guys but struggles to finish....

regardless of how he looked at the weigh-in,i just feel like mosely is really diminished.....he sort of slurs his speech a bit...and just doesn`t seem like he`s able to handle guys that out-quick him...

manny has to be a little careful early....but i expect him to pick mosely apart....

it depends on manny,imo....does he want the finish?....be the first to stop mosely?....i think he can do it if he wants it ....

[iQon]

yes I did. Whats the difference? Pavlik beat a bunch of nobody's and everyone was all over him cause hopkins was old and didn't look good in previous fights. Fight time Hopkins was +500...If mosley wins which I think he will it will be by tko or ko and at +900. thats great value if you know boxing which I expect you don't

Yes, I know nothing of boxing... coming from the guy who thinks this fight is in direct correlation to Hopkins and Kelly Pavlik.

If you knew boxing, you'd know the world hyped Kelly Pavlik, because he A) beat the previously hyped young fighter B) became the undisputed/lineal Middleweight champion C) Is a white D) Action fighter.

You're an idiot for even thinking Kelly Pavlik compares to Manny Pacquiao. Their disadvantages in the said fight don't even come close. Pavlik being a action fighter, will be destroyed by a fighter with good footwork every time. See Hopkins, see Sergio. Pavlik being an action fighter, will only destroy fighters who stand in front of him. See Miranda, see the bum he fights tonight.

Manny is simply the smaller fighter here. Shane has no other advantage over him. Just like Cotto, DLH, Margarito or Clottey. And I'm sure your expert analysis were the same then. Manny can't win, because "he too small. You don't know boxin'. I know boxin'. Manny be knockout. Knockout cold. Clottey too big. Margarito too tall. Oscar too rich. Cotto too strong. I get value."

And how did that work out for you? Oh yeah...

You take the 40 year old who in hindsight hasn't looked good in over 5 years (Oscar!?! ), I'll take the team that picked up on this and just want to throw a name on the resume.

[masterp]

is anyone betting on Mosley at all? If you are check your head doctor... His only chance of winning is if he knocks him out. He'll run out of wind in the 8th

[AribaAriba]

holy sheeet, this guy is a degenerate as he can be. He wagered 25k @ -800 on the pac LOL he'll get a one night hooker on his winning for sure.http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/04/norm-m...-hotel-encore/

[FindTheLock]

-900 is insnae. there is no money to be made on straight winners.

i wouldnt bet -900 on tuesday coming after monday.

what if I offered you Monday coming after Tuesday for +9000? Ya never know this is gamblin anything is possible.

[RubberKettle]

No bets here for me, just a good fight to watch on a Saturday night with a few beers.

I think Mosley has a shot. Hell anyone has a shot once they get in the ring. Mosley has never been stopped, but he has not met someone with the power or relentlessness of Pacquiao. If its going the distance Manny is winning. No doubt about it, he will work harder, through and land more punches and overall be busier than Mosely.

So if Mosely is going to win he needs to KO Manny. Pac Man has suffered a non-decision loss since 1999. If he does KO Manny it will likely come early before hes flustered from the barrage of punches Pacquiao throw round after round. Mosley has a chance, maybe a 1 in 10 or 1 in 15 chance, so for me +600 overall and +900 KO is not enough.

I hope we see a quality fight with no headbutts or doctors.

[Duff85]

Looks like i'm the only guy on here taking Shane Mosley for a half unit.

[dmiles1021]

i got bank on under 11.5 rounds kidddddd