Anyone on Sherk?

sundin4prez · 09-24-10, 05:56 PM

i would like to but just cant pull the trigger.... if sherk dident have the 14 monthes of ring rust it would be easier

spargament · 09-24-10, 06:01 PM

Absolutely not. I'm sorry. Combine ring rust with minime reach= clear play on dunham

Eccocide · 09-24-10, 06:05 PM

He's had 3 training camps on those 15 months off... Not like he has been filming a movie lol. Sherk is worth it at these odds. However I played him by decision at +387!

Fissics · 09-24-10, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Eccocide

He's had 3 training camps on those 15 months off... Not like he has been filming a movie lol. Sherk is worth it at these odds. However I played him by decision at +387!

That's true. It would be silly if he did no training for 15 months. And Sherk via decision is a great idea! haha

Another note, he really didn't take any damage against Frankie. Sherk does lack reach, but he's not THAT bad of a striker. And Dunham isn't really an above average striker himself.

After losing to Penn and Frankie, Sherk might just go back to old ways!

The HOFF · 09-24-10, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by Fissics

After losing to Penn and Frankie, Sherk might just go back to old ways!

This is the key. He has to go for takedowns. He will lose if he tries to stand like he has the last 2 loses. If Escudero can get Dunham down then Sherk should have no problem.

Straight Cash · 09-24-10, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by Eccocide

He's had 3 training camps on those 15 months off... Not like he has been filming a movie lol. Sherk is worth it at these odds. However I played him by decision at +387!

Same here, I made a small play on him to win a decision at +400.

snake11eyes · 09-24-10, 09:11 PM

Nope. I'm on the Dunham hype train. Although Sherk by decision at +400 is interesting.

LearningTree · 09-24-10, 09:17 PM

Sherk Decision prop is a good bet in my opinion

JuicedUp · 09-24-10, 11:04 PM

36 years old + long layoff =

terpkeg · 09-25-10, 09:17 AM

Iwant to take Sherk for all reasons TS stated. However, despite having 3 training camps over last 1+ years, he wasnt fighting for a reason. His body is clearly breaking down after fighting for so many years, and maybe steroid use isnt helping. I dont think he is going to be as explosive as old Sherk. He was a step behind Frankie Edgar and I think he will be a step slow tonight. But, we will see.

MUHerd37 · 09-25-10, 02:31 PM

Sherk hasn't fought in forever and he's not on roids anymore. He is still a fierce opponent though.

DDT · 09-25-10, 03:05 PM

Sherk will disappoint tonight, mark it down

terpkeg · 09-25-10, 03:28 PM

Someone's on Sherk, down to -170

Fissics · 09-25-10, 03:44 PM

yeah the Sherk lined moved from +200 down to +160ish

bogbat · 09-25-10, 04:15 PM

I'd put a unit on Sherk if I thought he would try to use his wrestling, but after seeing him opt to box with his little t-rex arms I wouldn't risk it.

Collegepays · 09-25-10, 04:31 PM

Exactly if Sherk fought his old style I would definitely lay some money at those odds.

spargament · 09-25-10, 06:39 PM

this is the only LM on a card filled with it that doesnt bother me

Dirty Sanchez · 09-25-10, 10:12 PM

Wow..if I would of bet Dunham I would be pissed right now...personally I thought he won the last two rounds....will be interested what Dana says

lasker · 09-25-10, 10:14 PM

I bet huge on Dunham, as well as Dunham by decision in a number of parlays. That was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen in my life. In the previous fight Stephens should have won, another bad decision which also cost me, but this one was pure robbery.

Vaughany · 09-25-10, 10:15 PM

Im speechless....two disgraceful decisions in a row but the Dunham one was on a whole another level.

Dirty Sanchez · 09-25-10, 10:20 PM

The cut and takedowns was about it for Sherk....sometimes the UFC judges really screw the pooch...and Dana will normally call it when he sees it

Vaughany · 09-25-10, 10:57 PM

Im worried Dana will give FOTN to Dunham/SHerk as a gesture to Dunham (£70,000 bonus)! Hopefully Lytle and Serra get it tho.

sundin4prez · 09-25-10, 11:02 PM

so sherk is using his takedowns again..... interesting

Straight Cash · 09-25-10, 11:05 PM

Good call here, questionable decision, but the W is all that matters!

Vaughany · 09-25-10, 11:10 PM

If they give Nog this I may have panic attack!

jin2daj · 09-25-10, 11:12 PM

i like sherk but he hasnt fought for too long

terpkeg · 09-26-10, 12:19 AM

That was a very poor decision. Apparently tonight, a takedown with no damage can take a round were you get threatened wth several submissions and battered the final minute + to the point where I thought he was going to be finished. My Wife and I were shocked when Buffer announced the results.

I thought Round 2 and 3 in Nog/Bader fight could have went either way and was suprised to see 30-27 across the board. I thought Nog got the better on the feet clearly in the second, takedowns with nothing much to folow must have taken that round.

Also, thought Guillard won first two rounds clearly. He was first to get off and land clean consistantly throughout the first 8 to 8.5 minutes of the fight and was very evasive coming out of the pocket. Except for opening shot that cought Guillard off balance, I thought Stephens went several minutes without landing clean.

Curious what the judges had for Mir/CroCop.

illmatick · 09-26-10, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by terpkeg

That was a very poor decision. Apparently tonight, a takedown with no damage can take a round were you get threatened wth several submissions and battered the final minute + to the point where I thought he was going to be finished. My Wife and I were shocked when Buffer announced the results.

I thought Round 2 and 3 in Nog/Bader fight could have went either way and was suprised to see 30-27 across the board. I thought Nog got the better on the feet clearly in the second, takedowns with nothing much to folow must have taken that round.

Also, thought won first two rounds clearly. He was first to get off and land clean consistantly throughout the first 8 to 8.5 minutes of the fight and was very evasive coming out of the pocket. Except for opening shot that cought Guillard off balance, I thought Stephens went several minutes without landing clean.

Curious what the judges had for Mir/CroCop.

pretty much how I scored it. I thought 2 of the fights could have been scored draws

Bader-Nog
round1. bader
round2. slight edge towards nog but I"l call it a 10-10 round
round 3. NOg

correct score was a draw imo

Guillard-Stephens

round 1. draw since melvin got rocked
round 2. Melvin
round 3 Stephens

Draw again

I easily gave dunham the last 2 rounds in his fight

Dirty Sanchez · 09-26-10, 06:44 AM

Like I said earlier Dana usually calls it...and he did on Twitter..." UFC president Dana White clearly thought Dunham won. On his Twitter account, he wrote, “Robbed! Judging (expletive) sucks.”

Now that doesn't solve the dudes who lost their wagers....these type of losses are bad beats, especially when the President of the Company says so as well...but your money goes the other way. If I had Sherk I would be loving life today!

36mafia · 09-26-10, 11:17 AM

sherk was definitely a live dog but that was just robbery last night

mma needs to get rid of judges asap

Pratik · 09-26-10, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by 36mafia

sherk was definitely a live dog but that was just robbery last night

mma needs to get rid of judges asap

Agreed! but for judges man i dunno what the hell they were watching in the last half of the second round. They really need to put TVs next to judges because obviously they can see what the hell is happening even if the fight is in front of them. By placing TVs each judge would be able to view the fight similarly; they at least need to test it out or something.

NOLA42 · 09-26-10, 11:40 AM

The judging was pitiful last night

Vaughany · 09-26-10, 01:47 PM

Fight Metric report for Sherk vs Dunham...

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http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/9/26/1712993/fightmetric-report-for-ufc-119s-sean-sherk-vs-evan-dunham

"FightMetric's effectiveness algorithm awards Dunham 150 points to Sherk's 68."

stefan084 · 09-26-10, 04:20 PM

this judging issue is ruining mma for me. don't get me wrong i'll still watch it because i'm a junkie but i won't bet on it