UFC Fight Night: Swanson vs. Lobov (April 22, 2017)

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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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    • 08-25-08
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    #1
    UFC Fight Night: Swanson vs. Lobov (April 22, 2017)


    FOX Sports 1, 10:00 pm ET
    Cub Swanson vs Artem Lobov
    Al Iaquinta vs Diego Sanchez
    Marcos Rogerio de Lima vs Ovince Saint Preux
    John Dodson vs Eddie Wineland
    Joe Lauzon vs Stevie Ray
    Jake Ellenberger vs Mike Perry

    FOX Sports 2, 08:00 pm ET
    Sam Alvey vs thales Leites
    Brandon Moreno vs Dustin Ortiz
    Scott Holtzman vs Michael McBride
    Jessica Penne vs Danielle Taylor

    UFC Fight Pass 6:30 pm ET

    Bryan Barberena vs Joe Proctor
    Cindy Dandois vs Alexis Davis
    Hector Sandoval vs Matt Schnell



  • RussianMike
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    • 03-20-10
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    #2
    Best fight on the card's in the nosebleed section. Dodson vs Eddie Wineland should easily be on the main card. Maybe UFC has a "Only one WEC Killer" rule on their Fight Nights and Swanson won out. Still, Dodson way better opponent than Lobov. The Lobov/Avilla fight pretty much shows you all the tape you need on that guy. More ego than skill on that Russian.
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    • PaperTrail07
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      • 08-29-08
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      #3
      Ellenberger Perry Should be Good... Alvey Leites as Well
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      • firekillex
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        #4
        solid free card again

        ellenberger/perry will be fireworks for sure

        2 main fights the favorite should steamroll the underdogs ... cub swanson better then lobov in every area of fighting , terrible matchmaking imo literally a lose lose situation for Swanson , he wins everybody says they knew he shouldve won, he losses he losses all his momentum after his fight of the year for korean superboy

        Al Iaquinta has been gone a long time but his striking should dictate the matchup here and he should be able to pick apart Sanchez for 3 rounds imo... probably go decision prop for that one to get some value

        hoping to get Leites for under -200 as well
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        • Hugo de Naranja
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          • 04-14-16
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          #5
          Originally posted by firekillex
          solid free card again

          ellenberger/perry will be fireworks for sure

          2 main fights the favorite should steamroll the underdogs ... cub swanson better then lobov in every area of fighting , terrible matchmaking imo literally a lose lose situation for Swanson , he wins everybody says they knew he shouldve won, he losses he losses all his momentum after his fight of the year for korean superboy

          Al Iaquinta has been gone a long time but his striking should dictate the matchup here and he should be able to pick apart Sanchez for 3 rounds imo... probably go decision prop for that one to get some value

          hoping to get Leites for under -200 as well
          I'll give Leites (-180) for Betpoints if you want
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          • firekillex
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            #6
            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
            I'll give Leites (-180) for Betpoints if you want
            will probably wait until line drops since leites is on a slide and alvey has won a few in a row , think i could probably get a better line

            ill possibly wager with you once line drops though because i dont want him to be at like -100/-120 range and i take him with you at -180 , tryna build some points up, but i like Leites here and will get back to you on the wager Hugo


            who you got ellenberger/perry and line guess?
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            • JIBBBY
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              • 12-10-09
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              #7
              Alvey and Leites both kinda suck.. Hard call but I lean Leites myself.. He's better on the ground and might be better standing but it's close.. Both have solid chins... Alvey might have better cardio though..
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              • Hugo de Naranja
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                • 04-14-16
                • 14140

                #8
                Originally posted by firekillex
                will probably wait until line drops since leites is on a slide and alvey has won a few in a row , think i could probably get a better line

                ill possibly wager with you once line drops though because i dont want him to be at like -100/-120 range and i take him with you at -180 , tryna build some points up, but i like Leites here and will get back to you on the wager Hugo


                who you got ellenberger/perry and line guess?
                Perry (-180)
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                • PaperTrail07
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                  #9
                  I think Perry learned a thing or 2 last fight....should come well prepared...
                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                  Perry (-180)
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                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                    • 04-14-16
                    • 14140

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                    I think Perry learned a thing or 2 last fight....should come well prepared...
                    Ellenberger also pretty shot. Only has power left
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                    • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                      #11
                      next.................................... ..........
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                      • Hugo de Naranja
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                        • 04-14-16
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                        #12
                        Don't think this a great card for watching/betting. Will be putting major time in capping UFC 211 in the next few weeks.
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                        • strictlypaypal
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                          • 12-05-12
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                          #13
                          Anybody surprised on the odds for over under Swanson/Lobov? The under 3.5 rounds is -125, I think Swanson knocks this dude out fast. 3.5 rounds is along time and these guys are gonna be throwing haymakers
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                          • GunShard
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                            #14
                            Unproven betting theory says to take Lobov +475 and Sanchez +325.
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                            • Pinoy-T-X
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                              #15
                              You guys see Alexis Davis who she fighting - Cindy Dandois? She's horrible. I wonder what the odds will be on this one.
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                              • richie360
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                                • 03-30-11
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                                #16
                                Some exciting matchups here. Lots of finishes!
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                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                  • 04-14-16
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by strictlypaypal
                                  Anybody surprised on the odds for over under Swanson/Lobov? The under 3.5 rounds is -125, I think Swanson knocks this dude out fast. 3.5 rounds is along time and these guys are gonna be throwing haymakers
                                  But Swanson has no finishes since 2013. Granted Lobov is a huge downgrade in competition.
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                                  • JIBBBY
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                                    • 12-10-09
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                                    #18
                                    So this got next!!!! Let the capping begin!!!!

                                    Solid card I might ad....
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                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                      #19
                                      Don't see a good path to victory for Lobov but I really recommend NOT laying (-700) on Swanson in parlays or straight bets.
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                                      • firekillex
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                                        #20
                                        Swanson will pick apart Lobov with ease imo... hard fight to bet though
                                        Lobov has a great chin but 5 rounds is a long time... probably no bet for me ill just enjoy this one
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                                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                                          • 04-14-16
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by firekillex
                                          Swanson will pick apart Lobov with ease imo... hard fight to bet though
                                          Lobov has a great chin but 5 rounds is a long time... probably no bet for me ill just enjoy this one
                                          I'm leaning Cub UD but not looking to bet much on this one.
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                                          • JIBBBY
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                                            • 12-10-09
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                                            #22
                                            I'm thinking since it's a 5 rounder Cub finishes before the final bell.. Lobov fades late and then gets knocked out.. Lobov has been stopped before and besides that he hasn't fought anyone as good as Cub IMO... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Artem-Lobov-73700

                                            KO prop not out yet but based on the ITD prop value it will probably be around -130 or so.. Those odds will be tough to swallow on a KO prop...


                                            1009 Swanson wins inside distance -190
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                                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                              I'm thinking since it's a 5 rounder Cub finishes before the final bell.. Lobov fades late and then gets knocked out.. Lobov has been stopped before and besides that he hasn't fought anyone as good as Cub IMO... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Artem-Lobov-73700

                                              KO prop not out yet but based on the ITD prop value it will probably be around -130 or so.. Those odds will be tough to swallow on a KO prop...


                                              1009 Swanson wins inside distance -190
                                              I think there are better spots. Doesn't seem like a good fight to put lots of $$$ on.
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                                              • Ty$
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                                                #24
                                                What's the thoughts on OSP vs De Lima?? Delima has 6 UFC fights 4-2 all ended in round 1. My thoughts are OSP survives round 1 and prolly finishes late round 2 or 3 cuz he really doesn't ever step on the gas these days. I highly doubt a decision here ...hopefully w OSP being on a skid the lines are mostly even. OSP has the much higher fight IQ imo and DeLima should gas himself.
                                                Last edited by Ty$; 04-18-17, 01:41 PM.
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                                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                  • 04-14-16
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Ty$
                                                  What's the thoughts on OSP vs De Lima?? Delima has 6 UFC fights 4-2 all ended in round 1. My thoughts are OSP survives round 1 and prolly finishes late round 2 or 3 cuz he really doesn't ever step on the gas these days. I highly doubt a decision here ...hopefully w OSP being on a skid the lines are mostly even. OSP has the much higher fight IQ imo and DeLima should gas himself.
                                                  I think both have awful fight IQ and major flaws besides that. Should be a fun, sloppy fight for as long as it lasts.
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                                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                                    #26
                                                    Lobov is only good walking foward...wont be the case here IMO
                                                    Originally posted by firekillex
                                                    Swanson will pick apart Lobov with ease imo... hard fight to bet though
                                                    Lobov has a great chin but 5 rounds is a long time... probably no bet for me ill just enjoy this one
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                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                      • 12-10-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                      Lobov is only good walking foward...wont be the case here IMO
                                                      A bit cement footed and slow as well.. This fight might play out like the Jacare/Whittaker fight.. As the fight continues Lobov becomes a punching bag for Cub and then eventually getting knocked out..

                                                      Cub does have 15 finishes in his 24 wins..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Cub-Swanson-11002
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                                                      • firekillex
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                                                        #28
                                                        OSP has terrible fight IQ be careful
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                                                        • firekillex
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                                                          #29
                                                          whats everybodys thoughts on Lauzon vs Stevie Ray?
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                                                          • Ty$
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by firekillex
                                                            OSP has terrible fight IQ be careful
                                                            I didnt say high. I said higher than DeLima. DeLima can barely fight 5 mins. Im not sure on Stevie Ray because I haven't seen him grapple yet... any fights where he's on the mat?
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                                                            • Ty$
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                                                              #31
                                                              I also see the ref stepping in when lovov can't fend off the punches... the dude has a rock head for sure
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                                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                • 04-14-16
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Ty$
                                                                I didnt say high. I said higher than DeLima. DeLima can barely fight 5 mins. Im not sure on Stevie Ray because I haven't seen him grapple yet... any fights where he's on the mat?
                                                                I think that's a tallest midget argument on Fight IQ. OSP does have a bit better cardio but I'm always looking to fade him.

                                                                Ray got taken down and grinded against Alan Patrick but that's not really Lauzon's style.
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                                                                • firekillex
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  his last fight before the split decision win over ross pearson he was taken down 5 times vs Alan Patrick
                                                                  might like some dog money with Lauzon here
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                                                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                    • 04-14-16
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by firekillex
                                                                    whats everybodys thoughts on Lauzon vs Stevie Ray?
                                                                    Will probably put a small bet on Lauzon ITD + Sub. Not sold on Ray yet. Both guys seem like mid-level action fighters to me.
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                                                                    • Ty$
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      If you last 25 mins w Bones you gotta have half a brain even though Jones looked like trash. I think OSP survives and prolly gets a late tko. Stevie Ray prolly wins a DEC ... jus my 2 cents... rarely bet against Joe though cuz of his subs
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