UFC 199: Rockhold vs. Bisping 2 (June 04, 2016 )

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET
Luke Rockhold vs Michael Bisping (for middleweight title )
Dominick Cruz vs Urijah Faber (for bantamweight championship)
Max Holloway vs Ricardo Lamas
Dan Henderson vs Hector Lombard
Dustin Poirier vs Bobby Green

FOX Sports 1, 8 p.m. ET
B.J. Penn vs Cole Miller
Clay Guida vs Brian Ortega
Beneil Dariush vs James Vick
Jessica Penne vs Jessica Andrade

UFC Fight Pass, 6:15 p.m. ET
Sean Strickland vs Tom Breese
Jonathan Wilson vs Luiz Henrique da Silva
Kevin Casey vs Elvis Mutapcic
Dong Hyun Kim vs Polo Reyes

[Kermit]

B.J. Penn Out for I.V. doping or some shit.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

B.J. Penn Out for I.V. doping or some shit.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

next.....

[JIBBBY]

B.J. Penn Out for I.V. doping or some shit.

Yep coming back from a looooong layoff and an aging vet, no surprise to me he was trying to dope to get an edge.. Too bad.. I would have loved to fade him actually depending on the odds

[firekillex]

What's everybody's thoughts on bobby green vs Dustin porier?

i feel like bobby green had all the talent in the world but doesn't have the heart/ mind to be a champion , long layoff contemplating retirement maybe he comes back with a fire but I see this new bigger motivated porier taking him out , just don't like this -200 price tag


cruz and rockhold will mollywhop but -500 to is way to much juice hmm

[JIBBBY]

What's everybody's thoughts on bobby green vs Dustin porier?

i feel like bobby green had all the talent in the world but doesn't have the heart/ mind to be a champion , long layoff contemplating retirement maybe he comes back with a fire but I see this new bigger motivated porier taking him out , just don't like this -200 price tag


cruz and rockhold will mollywhop but -500 to is way to much juice hmm

Porier has looked great in recent fights, 3 straight wins against tough guys now.. Hard to bet against DP right now.. Bobby Green is beatable and he should get beat again are my early thoughts.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Bobby-Green-27953

[JIBBBY]

This event happens in just 6 days.. Quick turn around I love it!!!

I don't see too many dogs landing on this card.. The dog hit trend could stop with this event..

[firekillex]

i think dustin porier wins the fight by decision or sub possibly im just not loving the -200 price tag, might have to sprinkle him into some parlays because ive been really liking him since moving up to 155, guy has a ton of talent and the heart of a lion , where as green has all the skills in the world but the fight IQ and heart isnt always there



dogs definitely wont be barking as much this card i see rockhold winning 99/100 times basically
i could see faber getting lucky and landing a big shot/guillotine when he drops just because cruz usually needs 25 minutes where lots can happen but realistically he outpoints faber and picks him apart, not to impressed with faber lately he looks to be declining


i wonder what the max holloway/ ricardo lamas line will be, people sleeping on that fight 2 premier 145ers , this fight is a toss up , leaning holloway but gotta watch some more tape i remember holloway looking real good last fight against jeremy stephens and lamas getting destroyed by mendes but hollaway is a way different fighter so you never know how itll go down



checking this fight card... RIP DAN HENDERSON wonder what the prop bets will be on hector lombard by KO

[Killer_Demo]

Bobby green vs dustin porier sleeper fight. Gonna be fireworks

[JIBBBY]

RIP DAN HENDERSON wonder what the prop bets will be on hector lombard by KO

I agree.. I think this fight retires Hendo.. No H bomb landing anymore. Hendo's chin is shot.. Hector is a beast and I doubt he lets Danny out of the 1st round conscious..

Gonna take Hector wins in round 1 prop when that comes out for best odds, hopefully that will be at +odds..Fight doesn't start the 2nd round is even a safer bet if the odds are at + which that prop probably won't be..... Those bets should be more favorable for odds then the Hector by KO at - odds one would think?

We'll see???? Nothing out yet..

[JIBBBY]

The question is does Bisping make it out of the first round coming in on short notice against a trained up Rockhold that prepared to face Weidman?.. I think Bisping gets steam rolled in this one myself..

These are the props out now.. Still not sure how I wanna play this fight yet? Nothing grabs my interest in these props out so far.. Love the Rockhold ITD in this 5 rounder but not at -600 odds..

Michael Bisping vs Luke Rockhold - Bantamweight 5 rounds - UFC 199
Sat 6/4		1003 Bisping / Rockhold goes 5 round distance		+350
11:59PM		1004 Fight won’t go 5 round distance		-530
Sat 6/4		1005 Bisping wins inside distance		+1205
11:59PM		1006 Not Bisping inside distance		-2615
Sat 6/4		1007 Bisping wins by 5 round decision		+1200
11:59PM		1008 Not Bisping by 5 round decision		-2600
Sat 6/4		1009 Rockhold wins inside distance		-600
11:59PM		1010 Not Rockhold inside distance		+400
Sat 6/4		1011 Rockhold wins by 5 round decision		+429
11:59PM		1012 Not Rockhold by 5 round decision		-685
Sat 6/4		1013 Bisping / Rockhold draw		+30000
11:59PM		1014 Fight not a draw		-90000

[Unwritten Law]

Early leans: Rockhold, Cruz, Holloway, Lombard, Poirier, Ortega, Brees, Vick.

[firekillex]

Rockhold definitely wins the fight but I'd have to see the odds on 1st Rd finish , I'm leaning more towards a 2/3rd round finish myself..

definitely would be interested in hector Lombard round 1 Ko depending on the odds


i didn't see Brian ortega vs clay guida as well that could be a good fight, does clay take down Ortega and get triangles / subbed or grind out a 3 round wrastlefuckfest

[JIBBBY]

^^Clay Guida's best days are behind him in MMA I believe, he's very hit and miss in fights lately.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Clay-Guida-8184

I think the tough and undefeated Ortega finds a way to win this fight. His submission game is solid too. I'm with Unwritten Law on that one.. I'll bet that small though just because it is possible Guida can lay and pray for 3 rounds and maybe squeak out a decision win..

Probably hedge that fight actually..

[GunShard]

Should we keep betting on the Holloway winning streak? If he wins, he could have a title shot.

[Beelzebubzy]

Should we keep betting on the Holloway winning streak? If he wins, he could have a title shot.

hes due for a loss. Possibly overdue. Im underdue

[GunShard]

hes due for a loss. Possibly overdue. Im underdue

I'm just helping everyone from losing money. You don't appreciate help.
I seen too many sports bettors lose money. I want everyone to win money.

[firekillex]

i think holloway gets a 30-27 decision and outpoints him on the feet but ricardo lamas' takedown could be a problem

[JIBBBY]

I'm just helping everyone from losing money. You don't appreciate help.
I seen too many sports bettors lose money. I want everyone to win money.

Gun you're a good man!!!!

Some of us gamblers who do this full time never let off the throttle.. It's what we do every day, every event, year to year.. Hot or cold, win or lose it's what we do!!

If we win big we be like this -



If we lose big we be like this -





Either way we never let off the throttle.. With that being said - JUST WIN BABY!!!

[bjpenn85]

i think holloway gets a 30-27 decision and outpoints him on the feet but ricardo lamas' takedown could be a problem

It may be, but holloways reach makes timing the shot harder. Although it also makes holloways striking more tentative. I just think holloway comes through anyway. Hes at that level now where he probably finds a way, even if hes down after round 1. Same with poirier.

[Ty$]

Holloway wins easy DEC maybe a finish

[Beelzebubzy]

jibby
Luke ITD opened-282 Ish. did you grab any?

[JIBBBY]

jibby
Luke ITD opened-282 Ish. did you grab any?

Nope ... I missed it but would have LOVED to hit that at -282..

On 5dimes now - Still at -600...

Sat 6/4		1009 Rockhold wins inside distance		-600
11:59PM		1010 Not Rockhold inside distance		+400

I just saw Luke interviewed on Good Day LA morning news on Fox right now live.. Dude is so ready to smash Bisping..

This event is being held at the Fabulous Forum here in Inglewood Cali.. It's about a 20 minute drive from my crib. I should grab some tickets and go.. I haven't been to a live MMA event in over a year..

http://www.ufc.tv/video/ufc-199-rockhold-weidman-cruz-faber-visit-fabulous-forum

I think I'm done with live events though, have too much fun kicking at home, getting liquored up, messing around with you clowns on this forum and trying to live bet..

[Ty$]

I found Josh knows at oddsb.com crying about his almeida bet saying he needs to readjust his strategy haha

[Beelzebubzy]

Fight won't go distance at -600 is obviously better

[firekillex]

man whatever book opened up -280 for rockhold ITD is gonna lose some money lol i wouldve went all in on that

-600 is a bit to much juice for me id say its over a 90% chance rockhold finishes him since its a 5 rounder but the juice isnt worth the squeeze unless youre putting like 6k to win 1k it could be worth it , might see if i can put some prop parlays together and throw that in all of them


ps jibby i went to front row ufc even a few years back, its a good experience but tbh the viewing experience is much better on TV, has multiple angles and not a cage blocking everything off.. use that $ to buy the event, a big bottle of liqour and some good food

[JIBBBY]

UFC 199 - Lightweight 3 rounds - The Forum - Inglewood, California - PPV
Sat 6/4		1401 Dustin Poirier		-220	o2½ -200
10:00PM		1402 Bobby Green		+180	u2½ +170

BJ and Hugo were discussing the Poirier fight on BJ's thread.. I tend to agree with this fight going the distance and DP winning it by decision.. Bet in...

$130.00

$175.50

Pending

6/4/16 10:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1407 Poirier wins by 3 round decision +135* vs Not Poirier by 3 round decision

[JIBBBY]

^^ Reasoning - Green hasn't been finished in a fight since back in 2010.. Dirty Bird Means was the last guy to finish Green. He's been damn durable since then..

[brooks85]

I was liking the over but bisping is already saying he can't fight 5 rounds so he wants to rush luke... oh boy

[Hugo de Naranja]

Any value in Lamas at +260? Holloway is good, but I think Lamas wins this a decent percentage of the time.

[firekillex]

i like that porier prop at plus money to win by decision, i see him getting a 30-27 in a solid striking match


ricardo lamas at +260 has some value i dont see him winning 50%+ of the time but id give him a shot if you wanted

for me ill probably be puttin holloway in some parlays i see him getting the decision but if you like dogs take +260

[Hugo de Naranja]

i like that porier prop at plus money to win by decision, i see him getting a 30-27 in a solid striking match


ricardo lamas at +260 has some value i dont see him winning 50%+ of the time but id give him a shot if you wanted

for me ill probably be puttin holloway in some parlays i see him getting the decision but if you like dogs take +260

I placed small on Lamas straight and I'll see if I want to do anything else once props come out. I see this as a 60/40 for Holloway.

[firekillex]

holloway is coming with a lot of momentum and his striking has been looking super crisp lately but hes been fighting strikers in this big run ( cub swanson, stephens ) lamas is a solid strong grappler who could definitely smother him for 3 rounds , ive always been pretty low on ricardo lamas but hes shown hes a solid fighter time and time again so i cant hate to much .. 60/40 is around where id put it at as well

with the line the only bet id put on this fight is holloway prop decision and if the value isnt great maybe small bet on lamas +260

[Hugo de Naranja]

Also, Penne at -150 against Andrade seems good. A lot of fighters in the -130 to -170 price range have been losing lately but Penne is a decent fighter and her opponent is cutting an extra 20 lbs to make strawweight for the first time.