UFC Fight Night: Rothwell vs. Dos Santos (April 10, 2016)

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  • Ultimatemeatball
    SBR High Roller
    • 01-03-16
    • 131

    #106
    Rothwell scorecards = no action +100.
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    • JIBBBY
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-10-09
      • 83686

      #107
      Originally posted by Ultimatemeatball
      Rothwell scorecards = no action +100.
      Could land..

      1059 Rothwell (scorecards = no action) <input id="editx" name="M1_28" size="4"> +100
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      • Pimp178
        SBR High Roller
        • 03-12-16
        • 128

        #108
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        Could land..

        1059 Rothwell (scorecards = no action) <input id="editx" name="M1_28" size="4"> +100
        Possible, yo JIBBBY What's your card looking for this event ?
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        • JIBBBY
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 12-10-09
          • 83686

          #109
          Originally posted by Pimp178
          Possible, yo JIBBBY What's your card looking for this event ?
          Still working it... Wanna see the weigh ins with these big guys first... This is an event where the weigh ins could play a roll, who's sloppy looking and who's not in other words wiith the HW's.... I'm waiting this one out...
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          • Pimp178
            SBR High Roller
            • 03-12-16
            • 128

            #110
            Originally posted by JIBBBY
            Still working it...
            Ooo, Alright
            Sun 4/10 1005 Rothwell wins inside distance <input type="radio" id="radiox" value="M1_1" name="radiox" language="javascript" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">+146 << went Up
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            • JIBBBY
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 12-10-09
              • 83686

              #111
              Originally posted by Pimp178
              Ooo, Alright
              Sun 4/10 1005 Rothwell wins inside distance <input id="radiox" value="M1_1" name="radiox" language="javascript" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);" type="radio">+146 << went Up
              Post #96 I already mentioned this the other day.. +146 and holding steady now...
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              • Ty$
                SBR MVP
                • 03-20-16
                • 1241

                #112
                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                Still working it... Wanna see the weigh ins with these big guys first... This is an event where the weigh ins could play a roll, who's sloppy looking and who's not in other words wiith the HW's.... I'm waiting this one out...

                We seem to think a lot alike in how we strategize...
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                • JIBBBY
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-10-09
                  • 83686

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Ty$
                  We seem to think a lot alike in how we strategize...
                  I learned a lesson with the Frank Mir/Mark Hunt fight...Frank Mir was sloppy and fat looking against Mark Hunt and he got steam rolled.... I didn't consider the weigh ins and my bets were already in.. I don't want to make that same mistake again with this HW heavy card.

                  If I miss out on the favorable odds then so be it, I'd rather pick the bet and fighter to win correctly over everything else.... Going back to my roots when I use to place after weigh ins.. You can size up the fighters and check to see how drained or fat they look.. That counts for something in maybe 1 or 2 fights on an entire card..
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                  • Ultimatemeatball
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 01-03-16
                    • 131

                    #114
                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                    I learned a lesson with the Frank Mir/Mark Hunt fight...Frank Mir was sloppy and fat looking against Mark Hunt and he got steam rolled.... I didn't consider the weigh ins and my bets were already in.. I don't want to make that same mistake again with this HW heavy card.

                    If I miss out on the favorable odds then so be it, I'd rather pick the bet and fighter to win correctly over everything else.... Going back to my roots when I use to place after weigh ins.. You can size up the fighters and check to see how drained or fat they look.. That counts for something in maybe 1 or 2 fights on an entire card..
                    Totally agree.
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                    • Killer_Demo
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-15-08
                      • 8409

                      #115
                      Blaydes and lewis big
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                      • JIBBBY
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-10-09
                        • 83686

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Killer_Demo
                        Blaydes and lewis big
                        With ya Blaydes, gotta go with the better wrestler in this one.... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Francis-Ngannou-152341

                        <small>UFC Fight Night 86 - Heavyweight 3 rounds - Zagreb Arena - Zagreb, Croatia - UFC Fight Pass</small>
                        Sun 4/10 1201 Curtis Blaydes <input id="editx" name="M1_2" size="4"> -145 <input id="editx" name="L1_2" size="4"> o1½ -145
                        3:30PM 1202 Francis Zavier Ngannou <input id="editx" name="M2_2" size="4"> +125 <input id="editx" name="L2_2" size="4"> u1½ +125

                        FS1 Main Card



                        Francis
                        Ngannou
                        "The Predator"
                        vs
                        Curtis
                        Blaydes
                        "Razor"

                        CAMEROON
                        Country
                        USA

                        6-1-0
                        Record
                        5-0-0

                        50%
                        KO/TKO
                        100%

                        50%
                        SUB
                        0%

                        0%
                        DEC
                        0%

                        76 in
                        Height
                        76 in

                        250 lbs
                        Weight
                        265 l

                        Write up - MMA MANIA Decent read IMO...


                        Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Heavyweights Francis Ngannou and Curtis Blaydes will hunt for the knockout this Sunday (April 10, 2016) at UFC Fight Night 86 inside Arena Zagreb in Zagreb, Croatia.
                        As a Heavyweight under the age of 30, Ngannou is something of a rarity. However, his opponent is a few years younger, making this a fairly uncommon clash of young Heavyweights. Regardless, the massive Frenchman is looking to score his third straight knockout win.
                        "Razor" Blaydes has only been fighting for a few years, but he's already beaten some decent competition and quickly made his way to UFC. Now, the talented wrestler will attempt to announce himself as a major fighter to watch.
                        Let's take a look at the keys to victory for both men:
                        Francis Ngannou
                        Record: 6-1
                        Key Wins: Luis Henrique Barbosa de Oliveira (UFC on FOX 17)
                        Key Losses: None
                        Keys to Victory: Ngannou is an incredibly athletic Heavyweight. He's still a bit raw, but Ngannou has the instincts and skill of a physical specimen who's quickly absorbing the sport.
                        In this bout, Ngannou's path to victory is reasonably clear, if not easy. Simply put, the Frenchman has to keep this fight standing and use his striking edge to put his opponent down hard. To avoid the takedown, Ngannou needs to focus on speed and movement. If he plants his feet or allows himself to be walked into the fence, Ngannou is in poor position to defend the bumrush double leg of his foe.
                        If Ngannou can stay standing, opportunities to land powerful shots will open up. His opponent is a strong athlete as well, but he's far less fluid on his feet and is definitely hittable.
                        That's a recipe for disaster opposite Ngannou.
                        On a related note, Ngannou showed pretty decent defense from his back in his last bout. If he is taken down, the French fighter should look to stall his opponent and force a referee stand up.
                        VS.

                        Curtis Blaydes
                        Record: 5-0
                        Key Wins: Lorenzo Hood (XFO 51)
                        Key Losses: None
                        Keys to Victory: A national junior college wrestling champion, Blaydes is also a fantastic athlete and huge Heavyweight. The wrestler excels at slamming his opponents to the mat with a powerful shot or clinch throw, where he does big damage with ground strikes.
                        The prospect has finished each of his five opponents.
                        Once more, Blaydes strategy should be clear here. This is a fairly simple striker vs grappler match up between young prospects, so as the grappler in that equation, Blaydes needs to stick to his guns and overwhelm his opponent on the mat.
                        Frankly, there's no reason for Blaydes to screw around on the feet with his opponent. He should waste little time in pressing forward and initiating grappling exchanges, as it would only allow Ngannou to find his range otherwise.
                        Since Blaydes can match his opponent's athleticism, securing the takedown shouldn't be too much of an issue. Once on top, Blaydes has proven to be a dominant finisher. He should be able to do some significant damage with his top position, which will only make any future takedowns come easier as Blaydes wears his opponent out.
                        Bottom Line: It's really strange to see a real match up of prospects in the Heavyweight division. Both men are actually young -- both in terms of age and career -- and have plenty of room to grow and build from their athletic bases.
                        Since both fighters are at the same stage of their professional career, the fallout will be similar either way. Since the division is so shallow, the winner will likely receive a pretty significant step up in competition. Whether or not it will be too soon remains to be seen, but it will surely be a big opportunity for the victor, who's likely to do quite well in UFC overall.
                        On the other hand, it's not like the loser is in danger of being released or really loses any ground. Again, Heavyweight prospects are valuable. Instead, the defeated fighter will end up opposite an opponent on the lowest rung of the ladder and given more time to improve.
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                        • JIBBBY
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-10-09
                          • 83686

                          #117
                          Gee which prop to choose?

                          Looking over prop options now and saw this.. 5D getting silly with the odds between the KO and ITD props..

                          Gotta always check out the value between the 2 props as I've found better odds on ITD over KO or SUB in the past several times.. I guess when the prop lines move the others don't always adjust accordingly...

                          1109 Lewis wins inside distance <input id="radiox" value="M1_33" name="radiox" type="radio">-102
                          1133 Lewis wins by TKO/KO <input id="radiox" value="M1_45" name="radiox" type="radio">-105
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                          • JoshKnows46
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-27-12
                            • 3691

                            #118
                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                            Gee which prop to choose?

                            Looking over prop options now and saw this.. 5D getting silly with the odds between the KO and ITD props..

                            Gotta always check out the value between the 2 props as I've found better odds on ITD over KO or SUB in the past several times.. I guess when the prop lines move the others don't always adjust accordingly...

                            1109 Lewis wins inside distance <input id="radiox" value="M1_33" name="radiox" type="radio">-102
                            1133 Lewis wins by TKO/KO <input id="radiox" value="M1_45" name="radiox" type="radio">-105
                            Well lewis isn't subbing gonzaga, the diffrence is only worth 3 points, basically they are saying it's less the 1 percent and they are correct. Lewis fights are always this way, his only area of strength is hammer fists, he sucks at everything else.play it straight incase it goes the distance and play the lewis 3rd round finish.
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                            • JoshKnows46
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-27-12
                              • 3691

                              #119
                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                              Gee which prop to choose?

                              Looking over prop options now and saw this.. 5D getting silly with the odds between the KO and ITD props..

                              Gotta always check out the value between the 2 props as I've found better odds on ITD over KO or SUB in the past several times.. I guess when the prop lines move the others don't always adjust accordingly...

                              1109 Lewis wins inside distance <input id="radiox" value="M1_33" name="radiox" type="radio">-102
                              1133 Lewis wins by TKO/KO <input id="radiox" value="M1_45" name="radiox" type="radio">-105
                              Oh I see they have em backwards, just bet inside the distance at 102, and put the out 3 dollars on the sub prop at +2000, if he gets the sub that's a extra 60 bucks, turns your in the distance prop into +160 instead of -102, or -105, not likely to happen but it's better then laying the extra 3 dollars on the ko prop, might as well make them pay for being stupid.
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                              • JIBBBY
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-10-09
                                • 83686

                                #120
                                Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                Oh I see they have em backwards, just bet inside the distance at 102, and put the out 3 dollars on the sub prop at +2000, if he gets the sub that's a extra 60 bucks, turns your in the distance prop into +160 instead of -102, or -105, not likely to happen but it's better then laying the extra 3 dollars on the ko prop, might as well make them pay for being stupid.
                                Yep, they have it backwards, we know Lewis isn't gonna win by sub. Gonzaga could verbally tap out to strikes on the ground but that's not likely either... Often times the ITD prop has better value then the KO or SUB props by themselves..

                                I can only assume in this instance that the public has been pounding the Lewis KO prop making the odds drop.. The Lewis ITD wasn't played as much and that line didn't drop as fast....

                                I played the ITD for a benny and 1st round finish myself for a 50 spot... Not betting heavy on this fight but did hit these..

                                $100.40 $98.40 Pending 4/10/16 4:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1109 Lewis wins inside distance -102* <small>vs</small> Not Lewis inside distance
                                $50.00 $90.00 Pending 4/10/16 1:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1121 Lewis wins in round 1 +180* <small>vs</small> Any other result
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                                • UncleChael
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                                  • 10-30-13
                                  • 3979

                                  #121
                                  You have seen nothing, yet! Muwahahahhaha - BIG BEN!
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                                  • JIBBBY
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-10-09
                                    • 83686

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by UncleChael
                                    You have seen nothing, yet! Muwahahahhaha - BIG BEN!
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                                    • PaperTrail07
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-29-08
                                      • 20423

                                      #123
                                      on JDS and D Lewis LARGE
                                      Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                      9 units invested in Rothwell, 5.3 Units on Taisumov, 4 Units on Ngannou, and 2 units on Stancui.. i'll have a few marginal unit prop plays when they get released....For those that love betting every fight, i'd advise to take it easy with this card, beside the 4 guys and gal i bet here, the rest of the card is coin flip hell, some unpredictable shit, save some money for the next few cards coming up, we gonna make a killin.... the live betting action should be fantastic, btw this card starts early morning around 8:30 or 9:30.

                                      My Full Card:
                                      Ben Rothwell -110 Risking $1100
                                      Ben Rothwell itd +132 Risking $250
                                      Ben Rothwell by sub +500 Risking $100
                                      Rothwell scorecards = no action -120 $600
                                      Rothwell scorecards =no action -131 $350
                                      Rothwell wins in round 2 +525 $100
                                      Rothwell wins in round 3 +875 $100

                                      Christine Stancui +180 $250

                                      Christine Stancui +155 $250
                                      Christine Stancui +160 $100

                                      Francis Zavier Ngannou +100 $250

                                      Francis Zavier Ngannou -120 $300
                                      Francis Zavier Ngannou -125 $312.5
                                      Francis Zavier Ngannou -130 $325

                                      Parlay
                                      Mairbek Taisumov -280
                                      Jon jones -500
                                      Mighty mouse -400
                                      $700 to win $725

                                      Mairbek Taisumov -310 $310 to win $100

                                      Parlay

                                      Mairbek Taisumov -290
                                      NOT Dos Santos Inside the distance -176
                                      $500 to win $554.47
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                                      • JoshKnows46
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-27-12
                                        • 3691

                                        #124
                                        Added two more units on ngannou and another unit split between Pejic and the under 2.5....lines moving to my benefit.

                                        Ngannou +125 $300 to win $375
                                        Ngannou wins by ko tko +265 $250 to win $662.50
                                        Pejic +105 $150 to win $157.50
                                        Pejic under 2.5 +140 $150 o win $210
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                                        • Ty$
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-20-16
                                          • 1241

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                          Added two more units on ngannou and another unit split between Pejic and the under 2.5....lines moving to my benefit.

                                          Ngannou +125 $300 to win $375
                                          Ngannou wins by ko tko +265 $250 to win $662.50
                                          Pejic +105 $150 to win $157.50
                                          Pejic under 2.5 +140 $150 o win $210
                                          No opinions on Whiteford/Martins???
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                                          • Ty$
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-20-16
                                            • 1241

                                            #126
                                            I like Whiteford in this matchup
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                                            • JoshKnows46
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-27-12
                                              • 3691

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Ty$
                                              I like Whiteford in this matchup
                                              i lean the same, not confident enough to make a play, don't want to force action with this card with so many great cards for betting comin up. Good luck!
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                                              • UncleChael
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-30-13
                                                • 3979

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                Dan Hardy and John Gooden breakdown the main event. They get Overeem to come in and give his thoughts about JDS and BIG BEN.
                                                <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5KwsxO789AQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>
                                                Haha. Reem still salty over his lost to Rothwell. He says hes rooting for JDS. Rothwell is a man on a mission and he will not be stopped!
                                                <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Nm6XCOYD_Zk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>
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                                                • JoshKnows46
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-27-12
                                                  • 3691

                                                  #129
                                                  Added
                                                  Parlay
                                                  Stacui by sub
                                                  Pejic by ko
                                                  Blancowicz by dec
                                                  Chiesa by dec
                                                  Stipe by split dec
                                                  $10 to win $36,252.32
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                                                  • JoshKnows46
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-27-12
                                                    • 3691

                                                    #130
                                                    Weigh ins are live...

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                                                    • Ty$
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-20-16
                                                      • 1241

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                      Added
                                                      Parlay
                                                      Stacui by sub
                                                      Pejic by ko
                                                      Blancowicz by dec
                                                      Chiesa by dec
                                                      Stipe by split dec
                                                      $10 to win $36,252.32
                                                      It's crazy 5dimes lets you parlay props...Bovada does not
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                                                      • mirinquads
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-22-13
                                                        • 3927

                                                        #132
                                                        JDS looking alright, but much smaller in the shoulder girdle and traps. Dude is off the sauce and not back on it. Rothwell quite a bit bigger framewise.
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                                                        • BELM0NT
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-19-15
                                                          • 1132

                                                          #133
                                                          Rothwell and fight wont start round 4
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                                                          • JoshKnows46
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-27-12
                                                            • 3691

                                                            #134
                                                            Post weigh in adds:
                                                            Johnson points handicap +3.5 -140 $300 (1 unit)
                                                            Rothwell +105 $600 more (11 unit bet now)
                                                            Pejic +115 $300 more (2 unit bet now)
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                                                            • JIBBBY
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-10-09
                                                              • 83686

                                                              #135
                                                              Locked and loaded for this card!!!.. First 3 fights on the card for Jibs..

                                                              Fight #1

                                                              $100.00 $150.00 Pending 4/10/16 10:30am MMA Props Fighting 2204 Fight won’t go 3 round distance +150* <small>vs</small> Chirico / Velickovic goes 3 rnd distance
                                                              Fight #2

                                                              $100.00 $118.00 Pending 4/10/16 11:00am MMA Props Fighting 2109 Cannonier wins inside distance +118* <small>vs</small> Not Cannonier inside distance
                                                              Fight #3 (may still hedge whiteford by decision for the hedge for $50)

                                                              $150.00 $150.00 Pending 4/10/16 11:30am UFC Fighting 2001 Robert Whiteford/Lucas Martins Under 2½ +100*
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                                                              • Thor4140
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-09-08
                                                                • 22296

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                                JDS looking alright, but much smaller in the shoulder girdle and traps. Dude is off the sauce and not back on it. Rothwell quite a bit bigger framewise.
                                                                Take away some power and speed plus the beatins by Cain and his last one by Overeen, say's to me the makings of a shot fighter. Coming bac so soon after those beatins is a recipe for a disaster. Got to take Rothwell here but im not really that impressed by him. A 300th rank boxer would stretch him in seconds. I thought Barnett was beatin him on his feet. JUst a lot of size Big Ben gets to use over his opponents. Heavyweights are starting to be a trash division. No way JUnior should be a favorite here. Makes me believe if it goes five which it shouldn't, Big Ben might get shafted here.
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                                                                • BELM0NT
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-19-15
                                                                  • 1132

                                                                  #137
                                                                  You could actually play the main event

                                                                  Rothwell inside the distance +135

                                                                  or

                                                                  Dos Santos inside the distance +120

                                                                  Im only betting on Rothwell
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                                    • 83686

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by BELM0NT
                                                                    You could actually play the main event

                                                                    Rothwell inside the distance +135

                                                                    or

                                                                    Dos Santos inside the distance +120

                                                                    Im only betting on Rothwell
                                                                    If JDS makes this a boxing match and it goes to decision playing both ITD's plays against each other blows up.. If the odds were better on each I'd consider it though...Big Ben can take a beating and keep on ticking.. Chances are this fight does not go the distance though..
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                                                                    • BELM0NT
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-19-15
                                                                      • 1132

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                      If JDS makes this a boxing match and it goes to decision playing both ITD's plays against each other blows up.. If the odds were better on each I'd consider it though...Big Ben can take a beating and keep on ticking.. Chances are this fight does not go the distance though..
                                                                      If this fight gets past round 3, Ill be shocked. These boys are ready to bang
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                                                                      • Thor4140
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 02-09-08
                                                                        • 22296

                                                                        #140
                                                                        bout time bestfightodds thru up boxing lines. Still needs some work cause its a mess. Didn't know Vargas was still fighting.
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