UFC Fight Night: Munoz vs. Mousasi (May 31, 2014)

[Skel]

Niklas Backstrom anyone?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGkMiuSHakM

He looks promising but his wrestling still hasn't been tested enough. From what I've seen, it's decent (and training with Reza Madadi is a good sign) but Niinimaki is likely good enough to get him down consistently.

[Vaughany]

Lol hasnt reza madadi been in prison for past 6 months for stealing gucci handbags!

[Vaughany]

I jest, guy still on outside due to appeal i guess

[Jim_Gunn]

On Carmont by decision +225.

Same here. CB is a live dog though.

[NunyaBidness]

Steve's boyfriend looks like a trashy Jon Annik.

[JIBBBY]

On Carmont by decision +225.

Not a bad bet for the value, better hope CB's chin holds up though!!!

I've seen CB rocked or dropped more times then I'd like to remember.. Good thing going for you in this distance bet is that Carmont doesn't have huge power in his striking.. Hense why alot of his fights have gone for decision victories recently.. He's not easily stopped or dropped himself.. Carmont has only been KO'd once and that was 10 years ago.. You know Carmont will last but CB is the question mark going in?

GOOD LUCK!!!!

[Vaughany]

Steve's boyfriend looks like a trashy Jon Annik.

Lol he does

[mmaCAPPER]

don't know what to expect in the carmont/dollaway, dollaway is a live dog here but i still lean slight to carmont. avoid this fight unless you are really confident, Best took at the O2.5 if you can get a good price.

[mmaCAPPER]

I'm on Munoz for a small bet just because of the value, doesn't necessarily mean I think he will win the fight though.. Like I said before I give Munoz a chance even at age 36.. Yipes!!!!! Mousasi 28.... Hmmm?

where the value on munoz? i dont see it, unless he hitting +400 or more...

[Skel]

Lol hasnt reza madadi been in prison for past 6 months for stealing gucci handbags!

I think he went to jail recently but Backstrom has been training with him for years. That Allstars camp may have the best roster in Europe.

[JIBBBY]

where the value on munoz? i dont see it, unless he hitting +400 or more...

Not much value other then winning a little over twice your money back Capper.

I hate to be wishy washy on my posts but the more I thought about this fight the more I'm not gonna touch it now.. I was thinking of playing a little money on Munoz but the dude is old, short, and like someone said in this thread - his shots are slow, predictable and stoppable.. His wrestling might not even come into play in this fight!!! Mousasi should simply be able to keep the fight standing, use his length, speed, technique and boxing skills to pick Munoz apart over rounds..

The fact that Munoz does hit hard and is a good wrestler, trains with other great fighters and has been in the cage with some other greats and held his own made me think try Munoz for a few bucks.. Not gonna happen now.....

I'm off Munoz and gonna stay away from this fight officially.. Just a fan now....

[mmaed]

Anyone have thoughts on Pedro Munhoz vs MAtt Hobar?

[JIBBBY]

Anyone have thoughts on Pedro Munhoz vs MAtt Hobar?

Tough fight to break down and pick but for the value you gotta like Matt Hobar at +215..

Both fighters lost 1 fight.. Pedro 10-1 coming off a tough decision loss and looking to rebound, Matt 8-1 lost his one fight 4 fights ago due to an arm injury so not sure you can even count that as a loss..

Both fighters are solid on the ground with maybe Pedro being a bit better, but standing I give the edge to Matt Hobar at 5'10.. Pedro Munhoz at 5'7" will be at a reach disadvantage and from what highlights I've seen, Hobar fights tall...

I'd say it's worth playing Matt Hobar.... He's still undefeated in my mind and can hold his own on the ground with his long limbs and standing I like his length as well..

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Matt-Hobar-59713

[NunyaBidness]

Munhoz it is, then.

[mmaCAPPER]

Not much value other then winning a little over twice your money back Capper. I hate to be wishy washy on my posts but the more I thought about this fight the more I'm not gonna touch it now.. I was thinking of playing a little money on Munoz but the dude is old, short, and like someone said in this thread - his shots are slow, predictable and stoppable.. His wrestling might not even come into play in this fight!!! Mousasi should simply be able to keep the fight standing, use his length, speed, technique and boxing skills to pick Munoz apart over rounds.. The fact that Munoz does hit hard and is a good wrestler, trains with other great fighters and has been in the cage with some other greats and held his own made me think try Munoz for a few bucks.. Not gonna happen now..... I'm off Munoz and gonna stay away from this fight officially.. Just a fan now....

O2.5 might be a good look or just parlay mousasi right now before he hit -500 by fight time lol. still munoz chin...but mousasi doesnt have explosiveness or real killer instrinct so O2.5 looks good for -150

[NunyaBidness]

but mousasi doesnt have explosiveness or real killer instrinct

87% finishing ratio.

[JIBBBY]

I'm still thinking about this Stipe Miocic vs Maldonado fight ...

Maldonado is a beast standing. Stipe is the bigger man and I'm thinking he should be able to take Maldonado down and lay on him if he wants to.. Maldonado is a warrior standing and has legit boxing skills.. Reminds me a little of Nick Diaz with his punching volume and the way he comes forward.. He works the body well and seems to get stronger as the fight continues which is rare for Brazilian fighters...... This fight goes down in Brazil and they bring it on the home turf usually.. Brazilian Pride...

Size matters though and Stipe is on a roll lately and has fought the stiffer competition so I'm still going with Stipe but as a fan I'm STOKED to see this brawl go down especially if it stays standing!!!!!

[Skel]

87% finishing ratio.

He can fight very patiently at times, such as he did against Latifi, Machida and Jardine. He seems to press the action when his opponent forces him to or when he feels threatened and wants to take his opponent out ASAP. A recent interview of his seems to suggest that he'll fight Munoz cautiously to avoid being taken down.

[Exodus]

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[Jim_Gunn]

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[MD]

Tough fight to break down and pick but for the value you gotta like Matt Hobar at +215..

Both fighters lost 1 fight.. Pedro 10-1 coming off a tough decision loss and looking to rebound, Matt 8-1 lost his one fight 4 fights ago due to an arm injury so not sure you can even count that as a loss..

Both fighters are solid on the ground with maybe Pedro being a bit better, but standing I give the edge to Matt Hobar at 5'10.. Pedro Munhoz at 5'7" will be at a reach disadvantage and from what highlights I've seen Hobar fights tall...

I'd say it's worth playing Matt Hobar.... He's still undefeated in my mind and can hold his own on the ground with his long limbs and standing I like his length as well..

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Matt-Hobar-59713

Most guys here who 'cap fights by reading Sherdog and wiki try to hide it, you're the only person who has thought that reading wiki and Sherdog was worthy of its own summary posts.

[MD]

I'm still thinking about this Stipe Miocic vs Maldonado fight ...

Maldonado is a beast standing. Stipe is the bigger man and I'm thinking he should be able to take Maldonado down and lay on him if he wants to.. Maldonado is a warrior standing and has legit boxing skills.. Reminds me a little of Nick Diaz with his punching volume and the way he comes forward.. He works the body well and seems to get stronger as the fight continues which is rare for Brazilian fighters...... This fight goes down in Brazil and they bring it on the home turf usually.. Brazilian Pride...

Size matters though and Stipe is on a roll lately and has fought the stiffer competition so I'm still going with Stipe but as a fan I'm STOKED to see this brawl go down especially if it stays standing!!!!!

No comment.

[JIBBBY]

Most guys here who 'cap fights by reading Sherdog and wiki try to hide it, you're the only person who has thought that reading wiki and Sherdog was worthy of its own summary posts.

I don't hide it that's why I post the Sherdog and Wiki links in my posts... More information is good information for the quick on looker -

I go off current win streaks, trends, vids, tv shows, camps, and the fights I've seen also.. How else would you cap these no name fights? I'm not trying to be a big shot, hide stuff, etc.... Just trying to post as many facts as possible so we can all win bets!!!!..

I'm posting stuff that makes sense I hope MD...

Still mad bro? Wish you would post more info on fights.... Team play works....


A criticism is a really bad way of making a request.. Be cool MD...

[MD]

I don't hide it that's why I post the Sherdog and Wiki links in my posts... More information is good information for the quick on looker -

I go off current win streaks, trends, vids, tv shows, camps, and the fights I've seen also.. How else would you cap these no name fights? I'm not trying to be a big shot, hide stuff, etc.... Just trying to post as many facts as possible so we can all win bets!!!!..

I'm posting stuff that makes sense I hope MD...

Still mad bro? Wish you would post more info on fights.... Team play works....


A criticism is a really bad way of making a request.. Be cool MD...

Uh, I think it can be a great way to make a request. And I am not requesting anything.

[JIBBBY]

Uh, I think it can be a great way to make a request. And I am not requesting anything.

Fair enough pal..
Glad we are friends again MD...

[JIBBBY]

I also just watched UFC tonight on FOX 1 to go along with my sherdog/wiki links.. LOL...

Chael and Kenny actually had a good breakdown on the Stipe/Maldonaldo fight coming up.. Check....

[MD]

Fair enough pal..
Glad we are friends again MD...

Huh? Don't misunderstand me man, my original point still stands, but I never criticize you thinking "man, this asshole..." or something. I'm not hurling insults your way or anything (as I would hope you noticed ), nor do I think you're a shitty person or anything, this is just a forum for gambling discussion (supposedly). I'm not subtle about my opinions, but even the harshest are rarely meant to cause offence. F-ck, read some of my arguments with Nunya; we insult each other all the time, but I got warm and fuzzy feelings for that guy /nohomo.

[JIBBBY]

^^ I came onto this forum thinking most of you guys reallly know your MMA gambling and info.. I appreciate that.. It's a small section of a forum and not too exposed..

I'm a sports writer first MD, been around this sport since UFC #1..

Fan first probably, gambler second and have experience in the fine aspects of this sport.. Lived it and breathed it for many years..

I live in LA California, MECA FOR MMA!! Around most of the hottest gyms, fighters, etc... Staples center is right down the road from me.. MMA head quarters across the street, Bas Rutton and company.. I have met many MMA pro fighters in my day.. Werdum has a gym just down the street from where I live in Santa Monica.. Nice guy and probably his biggest weakness in my opinion.. Too nice.....

I'm not on this forum to make friends but it's nice if I do, just want to share information, get information and win bets... I hope you guys do the same and aren't too superstitious to share info.. We can all learn from factual information..

I know it takes time to crunch info, stats, figure out what fighters are doing what, who's hot and not, etc.. I love this sport and I think I can win money betting on it.. Not a pro though.. I am a team player...

I just wish you guys and capper pro's would explain why you disagree with my posts or other posts from others in detail so we can all gather info. about fighters and learn.. I'm willing to do my home work and share and not be superstitious in sharing that info.... What do I care?

So MD who are the money makers posting on these threads? Will you share? Pm me if it's a secret... I'll return the favor one day I promise..

[NunyaBidness]

F-ck, read some of my arguments with Nunya; we insult each other all the time, but I got warm and fuzzy feelings for that guy /nohomo.

Suck a dick.

[MD]

^^ I came onto this forum thinking most of you guys reallly know your MMA gambling and info.. I appreciate that.. It's a small section of a forum and not too exposed..

I'm a sports writer first MD, been around this sport since UFC #1..

Fan first probably, gambler second and have experience in the fine aspects of this sport.. Lived it and breathed it for many years..

I live in LA California, MECA FOR MMA!! Around most of the hottest gyms, fighters, etc... Staples center is right down the road from me.. MMA head quarters across the street, Bas Rutton and company.. I have met many MMA pro fighters in my day.. Werdum has a gym just down the street from where I live in Santa Monica.. Nice guy and probably his biggest weakness in my opinion.. Too nice.....

I'm not on this forum to make friends but it's nice if I do, just want to share information, get information and win bets... I hope you guys do the same and aren't too superstitious to share info.. We can all learn from factual information..

I know it takes time to crunch info, stats, figure out what fighters are doing what, who's hot and not, etc.. I love this sport and I think I can win money betting on it.. Not a pro though.. I am a team player...

I just wish you guys and capper pro's would explain why you disagree with my posts or other posts from others in detail so we can all gather info. about fighters and learn.. I'm willing to do my home work and share and not be superstitious in sharing that info.... What do I care?

So MD who are the money makers posting on these threads? Will you share? Pm me if it's a secret... I'll return the favor one day I promise..

It's not just that I disagree with your posts (I often don't), they're just inane. You take paragraphs to tell us what we already know; if someone doesn't know that Mousasi is a sharp boxer, or that Munoz is going to try to take him down, then they've clearly never watched either of them fight. Your idea of "crunching info" is just posting wiki extracts and random, unrelated things that have no bearing on the fight, but that you try to spin to support the case of the fighter you bet on. It's like Gunshard, but Gunshard kept it short.

You're a nice guy, and I appreciate your positivity, but it can sometimes be redundant to read really obvious statements about fighters over and over. If I put "Jon Jones is really good" in every sentence, it would get tired pretty fast.

Suck a dick.

Yes sir. <3

[JIBBBY]

Niklas Backstrom anyone?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGkMiuSHakM

Wishful thinking with an undefeated fighter from Sweden at 7-0 I think...From what I can tell he got a contract with the UFC for flash KO's or highlight finishes against bums in my opinion.. Still he's 7-0.. Respect... Signed on with the UFC....

However, he's now fighting a legit guy in Tom Niinimaka with 26 fights under his belt and is coming off a win in the UFC Finale - this all means he has experience and has now been trained up with some studs..... This guy Tom has won 12 fights in a row himself and hasn't lost since 2007.. (sherdog stats) http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tom-Niinimaki-5639

I'd say Tom has Heaps of experience over the potential dynamic striker and unknown fighter in Nikalas Backstrom at 7-0... I'd personally load up on Tom to win this fight being a measly 2-1 favorite if the guy he was facing wasn't undefeated.. I hate betting against undefeated fighters!!!

Good luck Ronny if you do play Niklas as I think the odds should be way higher going in.. Like +400 maybe...

Undefeated fighters always pose some kind of legitimate risk if signed in the UFC in my book and against anyone...

My thoughts anyways...

[JIBBBY]

It's not just that I disagree with your posts (I often don't), they're just inane. You take paragraphs to tell us what we already know; if someone doesn't know that Mousasi is a sharp boxer, or that Munoz is going to try to take him down, then they've clearly never watched either of them fight. Your idea of "crunching info" is just posting wiki extracts and random, unrelated things that have no bearing on the fight, but that you try to spin to support the case of the fighter you bet on. It's like Gunshard, but Gunshard kept it short.

You're a nice guy, and I appreciate your positivity, but it can sometimes be redundant to read really obvious statements about fighters over and over. If I put "Jon Jones is really good" in every sentence, it would get tired pretty fast.



Yes sir. <3

Ok, I'll try not to present the obvious in my lengthy posts then....

I just am a writer to the general MMA public and not to the MMA capper brains of a small forum section.... I still don't have a feel for all the readers posting and reading in sorry...

We can get down and dirty and simplify things more as I like that better..

I will try if still welcome in this forum section.. Signing off for the night.. Late...

[MD]

Ok, I'll try not to present the obvious in my lengthy posts then....

I just am a writer to the general MMA public and not to the MMA capper brains of a small forum section.... I still don't have a feel for all the readers posting and reading in sorry...

We can get down and dirty and simplify things more as I like that better..

I will try if still welcome in this forum section.. Signing off for the night.. Late...

Dude, you're missing the point. Of course you're welcome; as I said, I don't hold anything against you, I was just letting you know that I do not enjoy reading your posts. Not a crime or anything.

[Vaughany]

Lol

[Vaughany]

Mark Munoz as a kid...