SBR Videos UFC 169 Preview w/ Nick Kalikas, Reed Kuhn (Fightnomics.com), Peter Loshak

Domestic · 01-31-14, 11:06 PM

Thanks for the previews.

BIGDAY · 01-31-14, 11:47 PM

Loshak!!

Wilbo86 · 02-01-14, 12:20 AM

Cheers

bjpenn85 · 02-16-14, 07:27 PM

MMAOddsBreaker

http://www.mmaoddsbreaker.com/news/mmaob-premium-recap-ufc-fight-night-36/

Not only that, they should have lost on all bets the weekend before. As Alan patrick was handed a faulty decision, Nick catone should also have lost. Their losing bet tony martin was a horrible bet as well. Rookie mistake, if youre ufc betting, you should take a look at the statistics for debuting fighers in the ufc (where are you reed kuhn?) And the guy tony martin faced was a russian monster that everybody know are killing it in the ufc and bellator etc. Just a rookie mistake like i said.

So the real number the last two event should be -15 units. So if they had lost on UFC 169, Oddsbreaker had now been on a 4 event losing streak instead of 3 out of 4, which obviously also is pretty bad.

Losing on 3 out of 4 last events losing isn't a coincidencei bet i can net the double of what the MMAoddsbreakers guys can.

bjpenn85 · 02-16-14, 07:31 PM

Nik kalikas claiming betting on yuri alcantara is risky, while making one of his main play on jesse ronson, another debuting ufc fighter. Is this a joke? He should re-evaluate what his doing together with that clown luca fury.

jjgold · 02-16-14, 08:05 PM

Calluses a square better

Good videos though
You can pick up some good information out of them

bjpenn85 · 02-23-14, 02:24 PM

MMAoddsbreaker continues losing streak extending to 4 or actually 5 events in row. Main plays consisting of yet another debuting ufc fighter...

bjpenn85 · 02-23-14, 02:33 PM

Im not sure, but i also think they are cheating with the numbers on the free plays so that if they loose they dont use them, but if they win, they use them. A bit pathetic. A bit luca fury like.

PunisherIND · 02-23-14, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Im not sure, but i also think they are cheating with the numbers on the free plays so that if they loose they dont use them, but if they win, they use them. A bit pathetic. A bit luca fury like.

also interesting to note, when they tweeted the free play of makovsky -175 parlayed with sterling -250, these were the reduced juice odds which aren't parlayable. actual parlayable odds at the time were -185 and -260.

Brian Hemminger · 02-23-14, 03:31 PM

Hey, just clearing something up. We've never included the free play with our results for premium. Notice, last night our premium went 1-2 and lost 1.7 units. While free play gave us a 0.7 unit profit, we still posted that premium lost for the night and gave a free extension to a few members who lost money over the four event package as theirs expired yesterday. Nothing Luca-like about it.

NunyaBidness · 02-23-14, 03:37 PM

So, respond to Punisher's accusation.

You guys give out plays which are IMPOSSIBLE to make, padding your record further.

Brian Hemminger · 02-23-14, 03:42 PM

I'll have to check with Nick. I think he was just looking at BestFightOdds.com when we posted the odds for it. If that's the case, then we'll make sure it never happens again. Believe me, the last thing we ever want to do is deceive anyone.

PunisherIND · 02-23-14, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Brian Hemminger

I'll have to check with Nick. I think he was just looking at BestFightOdds.com when we posted the odds for it. If that's the case, then we'll make sure it never happens again. Believe me, the last thing we ever want to do is deceive anyone.

you guys dont actually make the plays that your are recommending? honest question. i was under the impression that you (and other touts) are actually making these plays.

Brian Hemminger · 02-23-14, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

you guys dont actually make the plays that your are recommending? honest question. i was under the impression that you (and other touts) are actually making these plays.

I know for a fact Nick plays every bet he recommends. Usually he already has them played before he gives them out so I'm assuming that's what happened this time around.

NunyaBidness · 02-23-14, 04:26 PM

So 5dimes allows Nick to bet at the very same place he sets the lines at?

bjpenn85 · 02-23-14, 05:21 PM

Interesting, so its only Nik that bets on MMA? What about adam martin and yourself, or any other member? If only nik bets it signifantly distorts the product. Its not a team, more like a one man show. A boat with one captain that wanks in front of his own mirrior. Nik seems like a great guy and all so dont misunderstand.

bjpenn85 · 02-23-14, 05:24 PM

I do think so. He has commented this in his podcast, or someone at sherdog i cant remember.I do think he has some kind of a ban or something, that he is not allowed to make plays after..lets say thursday, or something like that. Most lines are accurate anyway, so its not like he gives himself gift lines. But its kind of sneaky...isnt it?

bjpenn85 · 03-25-14, 02:01 AM

Now...8 loss in a row.

Vaughany · 03-25-14, 03:05 AM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Now...8 loss in a row.

Ha yeah, breaking recordz son! Id love to know if there are people still paying for their winnerz?!

bjpenn85 · 03-25-14, 10:46 AM

Haha, i feel sorry for them. Isnt it weird that kalikas set so accurate lines, which requires a bit of skill, and then on the other hand, is completely unable to pick the correct fighter to win. Isnt that a huuuuuuge/gigantic paradox?

Vaughany · 03-25-14, 11:04 AM

haha yeah it is.

Maybe their subscription levels are higher than theyve ever been though as people sign up just so they can fade?!

bjpenn85 · 03-25-14, 11:55 AM

Yeah, its a costly affair. those 38 units is like...maybe what i earned through last months, is worthless. I think reed kuhn should take over the whole betting/ and betting section as the ubertail of the tape predictions usually is spot on. Kalikas should make lines, and brian h, should stop licking kalikas as, because everytime he disagrees with kalikas, his right with his picks. As much as i like kalikas, he is a terrible gambler and should not hand out any betting picks at all.

FightFightFight · 03-25-14, 12:22 PM

Thats a little harsh. Kalikas is pretty sharp, and I expect him to turn this around. TBH, I think he'd be better off on his own. Some of his recent plays seem to have been "stats" influenced in the wrong places.

FightFightFight · 03-25-14, 12:24 PM

Definitely agree he shouldn't be handing out picks though.

bjpenn85 · 03-25-14, 12:47 PM

True, but kuhns uber tail isnt that bad.

Its crazy difficult to win a lot when you only allow yourself to bet on plus money wagers and pickemzz.

FightFightFight · 03-25-14, 01:10 PM

Not bashing Kuhn, just can't go on stats without context. Kuhn did better than I thought he would in his book with providing some insightful context. Definitely, Kalikas style will win less frequently, and be more streaky, but that evens out in long run with big wins as does the 55u losses of betting favorites with small wins. I think he should've stuck with it Sunday...

FightFightFight · 03-25-14, 01:14 PM

99% of the time, stats just tell you what common sense does. Think its more of a detriment if you focus too hard on it, as it could get in the way of common sense. I bought Reeds book knowing that, but hoping to learn at least one thing from it, and really did'nt find it useful, but thought it was well done.

bjpenn85 · 03-25-14, 01:36 PM

Sure, kalikas still willl win long term, but if youre good you can combine both styles. Both favourites and underdogs and he only seem to master on of them. I do agree with what you said about the book. For most people that have followed the sport there is very little value in terms of what you can use for betting purposes. But yeah, well done, and i welcome anyone to make another book solely for betting purposes. I think youre so right about stats 99% of the time stats usually tells you what is common sense, and that it can easil get in the way from the overall picture.

FightFightFight · 03-25-14, 01:41 PM

Definitely.

MD · 03-25-14, 01:55 PM

Dunno why you'd want to read statistical analysis from a guy who barely understands stats himself.

NunyaBidness · 03-25-14, 02:39 PM

You guys aren't actually paying for these picks are you? He's clearly feeding you to the book.

Last week he recommended one of the guys as a straight up pick, but then didn't release him as a play at +200 or whatever. That doesn't make any sense.

Vaughany · 03-25-14, 02:47 PM

Ha yee BJ, u a havent been paying for them and tailing have u?!

Yee he picked leonardo santos against parke but didnt play him! Lol

FightFightFight · 03-25-14, 02:52 PM

Lol. Nunya HATES touts. Must have tried some in the past.

NunyaBidness · 03-25-14, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by FightFightFight

Lol. Nunya HATES touts. Must have tried some in the past.

Yep, that's the reason.

Probably has nothing to do with the fact that I've tried to help you guys learn how to beat the books, rather than give out some stupid pick here or there.