€450 on George Groves @ 350

**hougigo** · 11-23-13, 03:47 PM

Good luck. I'm on Groves, but if he can mix up angles and movement, he has a good chance.
IMO, I think the smaller ring size and Froch's tenacity will get to him

**SharpBoxing** · 11-23-13, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by hougigo

Good luck. I'm on Groves, but if he can mix up angles and movement, he has a good chance.
IMO, I think the smaller ring size and Froch's tenacity will get to him

Thanks man. Yeah I hope he can trade punches when necessary

**hougigo** · 11-23-13, 03:56 PM

I mean Froch, but nevertheless, goodluck

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 11-23-13, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by SharpBoxing

I know its dangerous to bet against Carl Froch because of his awkward style and power. However George Groves is a very talented skilled upcoming fighter. There is allot of value here IMO

I have a Foch/Pacman parlay @ -166. However, I understand why you played Groves @ +350. Indeed there is value there. Froch is NOT a lock by any stretch of the imagination. It will e interesting to see how Froch deals with the speed of Groves. The ref. has a rep. for quick stoppages & the ring size helps Froch as well. I simply can not wait for this fight!

**SharpBoxing** · 11-23-13, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012

I have a Foch/Pacman parlay @ -166. However, I understand why you played Groves @ +350. Indeed there is value there. Froch is NOT a lock by any stretch of the imagination. It will e interesting to see how Froch deals with the speed of Groves. The ref. has a rep. for quick stoppages & the ring size helps Froch as well. I simply can not wait for this fight!

yeah man me too. Its going to be a great fight

**SharpBoxing** · 11-23-13, 05:51 PM

Wauw!!!

**SharpBoxing** · 11-23-13, 06:00 PM

Froch is coming back

I have a feeling this is going to be fight of the year

**gotov** · 11-23-13, 06:02 PM

Do you guys think Billy Dib can beat Gradovich?

**SharpBoxing** · 11-23-13, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by gotov

Do you guys think Billy Dib can beat Gradovich?

I really dont know. I have never seen those guys fight

MD · 11-23-13, 06:05 PM

I have Groves by decision, and I thought it was great in R3, now not so much.

I just played Froch decision and Groves live. Froch decision is hovering around +1000, which is way off.

**Grabaka** · 11-23-13, 06:12 PM

Shit i had some on Grooves round 6.....come on grooooveeees

**SharpBoxing** · 11-23-13, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by MD

I have Groves by decision, and I thought it was great in R3, now not so much.

I just played Froch decision and Groves live. Froch decision is hovering around +1000, which is way off.

I doubt Froch will win a decision. However he has the power to stop him.

**Grabaka** · 11-23-13, 06:18 PM

Why did you felt so confident on Groves SharpB?

**SharpBoxing** · 11-23-13, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

Why did you felt so confident on Groves SharpB?

Because of his skills and talent. Thats all. He hasnt beaten anyone significant.

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 11-23-13, 06:22 PM

They really do need to get rid of Jim Watt. He has poor eye sight & is just an old doddering fool.

**SharpBoxing** · 11-23-13, 06:23 PM

No penetrating way!!!

**Dr.Gonzo** · 11-23-13, 06:23 PM

Quick stoppage, horrible maybe.

MD · 11-23-13, 06:24 PM

Good bet. Unfortunate ending, I disagreed with the stoppage and you were pretty clearly on the right side, in my opinion. Mark it down as variance.

**Grabaka** · 11-23-13, 06:24 PM

Ohhhh penetrating phag ref

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 11-23-13, 06:25 PM

Froch is f+cking WARRIOR! Fight of the year! I was sweating bullets for a minute there. But in the end Froch came through!

**SharpBoxing** · 11-23-13, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by MD

Good bet. Unfortunate ending, I disagreed with the stoppage and you were pretty clearly on the right side, in my opinion. Mark it down as variance.

Yeah indeed.

MD · 11-23-13, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by SharpBoxing

I doubt Froch will win a decision.

Did you hear those scorecards? Groves was only up by one point. I'm incredibly unsurprised.

**SharpBoxing** · 11-23-13, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by MD

Did you hear those scorecards? Groves was only up by one point. I'm incredibly unsurprised.

Referee and the judges were corrupt.

Referee should haven given it a standing 8 count.

MD · 11-23-13, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by SharpBoxing

Referee and the judges were corrupt.

Referee should haven given it a standing 8 count.

Judges, maybe. I think the ref made a bad call, but I'm not sure if he was corrupt. It is boxing, so who knows, though. I always expect shit like this in boxing, a guy like Froch should never be +1000 to win by decision.

**Vaughany** · 11-23-13, 07:09 PM

ridiculous stoppage. If you stop that then you should stop it when Froch was down on his ass in 1st round! Groves was absolutely right about Froch's tough man rep getting him the benefit of the doubt. Groves was awesome

**Maniac** · 11-23-13, 07:41 PM

I had groves up by 4 points going into the 9th Round and that stoppage was way too early - Froch def had the momentum at that point, and had it continued then he may well have ended up winning anyway shortly after, but to just stop the fight at that point when Groves hadn't really taken that many big punches was just wrong.

**SharpBoxing** · 11-23-13, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

ridiculous stoppage. If you stop that then you should stop it when Froch was down on his ass in 1st round! Groves was absolutely right about Froch's tough man rep getting him the benefit of the doubt. Groves was awesome

Yeah Groves suprised everyone. Guts, power, speed, skills, heart, ... Amazing boxer

**richie360** · 11-23-13, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012

I have a Foch/Pacman parlay @ -166. However, I understand why you played Groves @ +350. Indeed there is value there. Froch is NOT a lock by any stretch of the imagination. It will e interesting to see how Froch deals with the speed of Groves. The ref. has a rep. for quick stoppages & the ring size helps Froch as well. I simply can not wait for this fight!

Spot on! Ref jamp in to early!!!

**simmy17** · 11-23-13, 09:53 PM

Shocking stoppage froch is lucky to get out of Manchester with the belts has to be a rematch on the cards witch is painful cause i cant help but feel the promoters had it planned all along more money in a lot of pockets

**hougigo** · 11-23-13, 10:38 PM

I've yet to see the fight, but from what I've heard, Groves was winning and it was ahorrible stoppage

MD · 11-23-13, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by hougigo

I've yet to see the fight, but from what I've heard, Groves was winning and it was ahorrible stoppage

The fight wasn't stopped when Froch got KO'd in round one:

But it was stopped when Groves was punching Froch back after being rocked:

**hougigo** · 11-23-13, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by MD

The fight wasn't stopped when Froch got KO'd in round one:

But it was stopped when Groves was punching Froch back after being rocked:

HOrrible horrible stoppage.... wow

**simmy17** · 11-23-13, 11:37 PM

my book still hasn't settled my bet on Groves to win had £500 on it not sure whats going on to be honest say there still waiting on conformation around 5 hours after the fight wouldn't mind a refund for both the PPV and my bet after that horrible stoppage

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 11-24-13, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by richie360

Spot on! Ref jamp in to early!!!

Thank you. I've been at this gambling game for years. I look at every little detail to give myself an edge. I have been successful for almost 2 decades now. I assure you it is not luck. If people would have done their homework then they would have known about Groves speed, the ref's reputation for early stoppages, & the smaller ring size. Take care & bye for now.