UFC 167: St. Pierre Vs Hendricks

[MD]

That's great, but lots of people who know MMA stated Hendricks clearly won three rounds.

Obviously you believe you know more about MMA than everyone else.

I never said I know MMA, but I watched it and I read numerous opinions from various fight sites.

I'm not saying he didn't deserve to win three rounds. There's a very good argument to say that he did. It was a very close fight, though, and to say otherwise is silly.

[yisman]

If people believed it was very close, there wouldn't be a huge outcry over it.

People came away from it thinking Hendricks won, not that it was a toss up that could've gone either way.

The fans at the arena were cheering for GSP and were very upset by the decision. Dana White said it benefits him that GSP won but he said it wasn't fair.

Since I don't know MMA, I won't talk about how I felt about it. I will just bring up how others felt, such as people on MMA sites.

[Beelzebubzy]

Gsp beats Hendricks again
in ea sports cover vote

GOAT

[Sykes]

I wonder if they tested these guys after the fights, I was just thinking yesterday looking at the presser that Hendricks was drinking really weird, just wetting his lips n stuff. I bet he couldn't give a piss test.

[MD]

I wonder if they tested these guys after the fights, I was just thinking yesterday looking at the presser that Hendricks was drinking really weird, just wetting his lips n stuff. I bet he couldn't give a piss test.

He was chewing tobacco.

If people believed it was very close, there wouldn't be a huge outcry over it.

People came away from it thinking Hendricks won, not that it was a toss up that could've gone either way.

The fans at the arena were cheering for GSP and were very upset by the decision. Dana White said it benefits him that GSP won but he said it wasn't fair.

Since I don't know MMA, I won't talk about how I felt about it. I will just bring up how others felt, such as people on MMA sites.

Gustafsson vs Jones.

[reigle9]

I wonder if they tested these guys after the fights, I was just thinking yesterday looking at the presser that Hendricks was drinking really weird, just wetting his lips n stuff. I bet he couldn't give a piss test.

Jesus dude.

[Sykes]

Telling ya watch it, there is noting about it. Maybe is a country boy chewing tabbaco thing, definitely weird though.

[Sato]

http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/18/georges-st-pierre-pregnancy-illness-derail-ufc-fighter/

I know I know tmz lol...GEORGIE BOY CAN FINISH!!!!

[reigle9]

Telling ya watch it, there is noting about it. Maybe is a country boy chewing tabbaco thing, definitely weird though.

He 100% no doubt about it, no questions asked, has a dip in.

[mirinquads]

the redneck hick on GSP's right with the skulls on his shirt is his boyfriend.

"ee 'elp meee work on my top position...gives me a 'uuuge ad-van-taje"

-200 GSP gets dual penetrated by Skullshirt and greyhair guy while aliens is watching from the basement.

[Tommy Blingshyne]

just watched the fight for the 1st time...hardly a robbery IMO...think it was very close...comes down to round 1 to me...hendricks got 2 and 4...GSP got 3 and 5...dont think those rounds are disputed...close round 1 and the judges lean towards the champ...if this was pride rules where we judge the fight as a whole id say hendricks won but i think under the 5 round scoring system GSP eeked out a close one...wouldnt be against an immediate rematch cause it was that close...

[Joeey]

Yea it was not a robbery.

I thought it was easy to score, bar the first round. And thats what it came down to.

Again, its the old problem with the boxing and MMA scoring system. Dominant rounds are scored the same as razor thin rounds. The lack of 10-8 rounds means fights can seem one sided, but not in the scoring sense.

[Beelzebubzy]

Whose ghost account is that

[Rubber Guard]

He also liked Hendricks by decision.



I repeat,

He also liked Hendricks by decision

Perhaps twinkle toes was on to something. Johnny should have won a decision. He liked Rashad and Robbie too. Twinkle Toes is a stud.

[Tommy Blingshyne]

i actually thought the scoring was accurate for this fight...48-47 for either guy was the correct score...i didnt see the official score cards but if round 1 was the round that caused the fight to be split, assuming 2 and 4 were for hendricks and 3 and 5 were for GSP, then i actually think the judges got it right...round 1 was close and i believe only seperated statistically by 1 strike...scoring round 1 for either guy seems reasonable...

[Rubber Guard]

I don't think it is a complete robbery. But I thought it was clearly 3-2 Hendricks. With possibly winning the 3rd (I have seen fighters steal close rounds with a crappy TD many times before). Yamasaki scored only the 5th for GSP and said it was brutal. Hendricks dominated. So yea, it isn't like it wasn't within 1 round of scoring. But It was clear. And if it isn't then it is just another example of how fuzzy the scoring system is and how shameful it is that a result like that can make any sense. Really the judges should use more 10-10 rounds. If you can't really tell who won, then don't award a guy a whole point in a 5 round fight. 10-10 should be much more common. I mean it is seldom seen. When in reality there seems to always be at least one of those rounds in 5 round competitive fights.

[Tommy Blingshyne]

the thing is, you can win a round 10-9 by the difference of 1 knee strike in a stalemate grinding type of clinch fight or win a round 10-9 after badly rocking your opponent with bombs...i think thats where alot of the fuzziness comes into play...1 round looks more definitive but theyre both scored the same...you dont see many 10-10 rounds but i could see round 1 of GSP v. Hendricks being 10-10 therefore rendering the fight a draw IMO... i do think a rematch is in order...the fight was either really close or very controversial depending on which side of the aisle you fall on so a rematch has to happen...

[Thor4140]

i thought the first round was a draw also. Nobody gives GSP the second but i think he has a case for it. He picked Hendricks apart the first 45 seconds than got hurt by a shot. He finally got his wits back and picked Hendricks apart the last two minutes. This fight was so close that guys just want to see GSP lose. The real funny part about this fight is people are still to ignorant and dumb to realize in a big bet fight like this the guy being bet is not gonna get the decision. Hendricks had no shot at a decision. Hendricks has no one to blame but himself. Go out and get the title for goodness sakes. 3/4 of the fight he looked like he was just happy to be there.

[Rubber Guard]

http://mario-yamasaki-disagrees-with...etter-training

"I’m inside the cage so I can’t see the fight as the judge sees it, but I thought Hendricks won the fight," Yamasaki told MMAFighting.com. "I thought Hendricks dominated the fight, it was brutal, and I was surprised when they gave St-Pierre the win. But I’m not the judge. I look at the fight with different eyes."
Yamasaki scored the fifth round in favor of St-Pierre, and that was it.
"The first round was slow and could have gone either way. Hendricks dominated the second one. The third was close and could also go either way, and the judges gave it to St-Pierre. When the fight was over, I thought Hendricks won every round except the last one," he said. "But I have to watch the fight again to analyze it as a judge."
UFC president Dana White criticized Keith Kizer and the Nevada State Athletic Commission following the post-fight press conference. Yamasaki doesn’t believe White is in a position to criticize the NSAC, but agrees that they need to change the way they prepare the judges.
"As a promoter, (Dana White) can say anything he wants," he said. "He has never done a judging course, so he analyzes the fight as a fan.
"But (NSAC) needs to do only one judging course to set one criteria on how to analyze a fight. Every referee does his course, so they teach their way to judge a fight."
The judges weren’t the only ones to receive criticism after the five-round battle in Las Vegas. Yamasaki, who stopped the action in the second round so Hendricks could put his mouthpiece back in immediately after the challenger rocked St-Pierre, was questioned for his actions.
"The rules say that when the mouthpiece falls and the action continues, I can't stop the fight," he said. "Hendricks kept pressuring, but then they started working in the clinch, so I stopped it. I wouldn't have stopped the fight if he kept punching. I'm there to protect the athlete. There's no reason why I would let him hurt his mouth."

[Rubber Guard]

The guy standing 3 feet away the whole fight said GSP was brutally dominated. Dana White same thing. Most all media outlets. 85% of all fans. Make no mistake about it, it was the wrong decision. And GSP as a whole got his ass kicked.

[Tommy Blingshyne]

the guy standing 3 feet away is retarded then...GSP wasnt brutally dominated...nobody can honestly think that...cmon now...besides, the guy reffing the fight isnt a good judge for who wins or loses a fight...hes too close to the action...too involved...thats like referencing GSP or Hendricks own opinion on who won the fight...you need someone on the outside to get a real idea of who won...not the guy whos focus is on fighter safety and the rules of the cage...look, GSP def caught a beating but the fight isnt judged as a whole or soley off damage...this isnt pride rules...GSP wears his fights on his face...he looks like a guy that lost a fight plenty of times but fights arent judged like that...as for DW, he is full of shit...he sees the big opportunity for a huge rematch and a huge PPV payday...not to mention, GSP pretty much retired in the cage...you think hes gonna let that slide? hes a fight promoter...he went right into promoter mode...take anything DW says w/ a grain of salt...its usually hyperbole and horseshit sprinkled with a very vague aura of truth...as for 85% of fans, what % are just so sick and tired of GSP and his decisions that they want him to lose at any cost? what % even understand how fights are scored? what % just see a guy with a battered face and automatically assume he lost the fight? a good percentage of fans dont even understand the 10-9 scoring system and that each round is essentially its own individual fight...now for us logical and rational people, a 48-47 decision for hendricks wouldnt have been disputed...GSP at absolute worst won rounds 3 and 5...round 1 was up for grabs and its no surprise 2/3 judges gave leeway to the champ (im assuming that was the round that caused the split, didnt see the official scorecards)...the rounds GSP won may not have looked as "dominant" as the rounds people gave to hendricks but the scoring is still the same...it was nothing more then a close fight w/ one really hard to score round that pretty much decided the outcome...no robbery at all

[Rubber Guard]

lol, he's too close to the action. but a judge sitting on the opposite side of the action looking through a cage is the right distance. if the fighters are on the ground on the opposite side from where the judges are....they can't even really see them. yea, a guy right next to them, feeling, hearing the punches, is too close. Come on man.

[Tommy Blingshyne]

lol, he's too close to the action. but a judge sitting on the opposite side of the action looking through a cage is the right distance. if the fighters are on the ground on the opposite side from where the judges are....they can't even really see them. yea, a guy right next to them, feeling, hearing the punches, is too close. Come on man.

being too close to the fight as in a ref is too involved in other aspects of the fight...im not talking about distance...cmon dude...a ref is making sure rules are being followed...that fighters are being protected...his focus isnt on analyzing the fight as it happens...his mindset is completely different...hes not sitting there scoring the fight...thats the job of the judges, not the ref...and dont judges have TV monitors to refer to? if not they def. should...

[Tommy Blingshyne]

even still, what did the judges miss? are you saying GSP didnt win round 3 and 5? i cant see a valid arguement against George winning those rounds...i know hendricks landed a meaningless TD at the end of round 3 i believe but that surely wasnt enough to steal the round from GSP...GSP def had round 5....stats for round 1 show everything dead even save for 1 more strike landed...so what is being missed exactly? not saying hendricks didnt deserve that round but i can see why the judges would have a hard time figuring that one out...the only thing im seeing is, the rounds Hendricks won, he prob won in a more clear cut fashion perhaps...did more damage in those winning rounds then GSP did in his winning rounds but it doesnt matter when a round is scored 10 for the winner and 9 for the loser barring something really substantial to sway it to a 10-8 round which i didnt see anything to really warrent that...if damage was the sole criteria and rounds didnt matter then that was a pretty clear cut win for hendricks...im really thinking theres a real lack of understanding on how the 10-9 system works and how the fights are judged...

[The iron sheik]

Blingshyne is right.

The problem with people crying a robbery is that they still refuse to understand rounds are judged separately. Now, I think Hendricks won that fight 48-47 but the truth is Hendricks won rounds 2 and 4 pretty convincingly, GSP won rounds 3 and 5 with a really small difference and it all comes down to round 1.

[Noleafclover]

Man, no UFC till the 30th. Now I'm doubly sad I didn't do more capping for this fight. My leans were Leites and Cerrone too, but everyone on here was so high on Dunham I figured it'd be inconclusive and didn't bother.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

Man, no UFC till the 30th. Now I'm doubly sad I didn't do more capping for this fight. My leans were Leites and Cerrone too, but everyone on here was so high on Dunham I figured it'd be inconclusive and didn't bother.

Leites would have been a good play @ -185. My preflight pick was Leites via Dec. Cerrone on the other hand is too inconsistent. You never know which Cerrone is going to show up & with talk about him moving to 145 there was no way I would put $ on him. Over time you will learn to go with your gut not follow the herd. Especially when the herd is running off the cliff.

[Vaughany]

I'm going crazay in my 'ed man!

[Noleafclover]

Leites would have been a good play @ -185. My preflight pick was Leites via Dec. Cerrone on the other hand is too inconsistent. You never know which Cerrone is going to show up & with talk about him moving to 145 there was no way I would put $ on him. Over time you will learn to go with your gut not follow the herd. Especially when the herd is running off the cliff.

That's what people were saying but the fighters he lost to have been better than Dunham's losses, with the possible exception of Nate Diaz (and if we go into history Jamie Varner in a split dec.). All I'm saying is it looked like a duck, and I should have done my due diligence. 3 fights in 2 weeks was a bit of a burnout, but now...

[Rubber Guard]

Blingshyne is right.

The problem with people crying a robbery is that they still refuse to understand rounds are judged separately. Now, I think Hendricks won that fight 48-47 but the truth is Hendricks won rounds 2 and 4 pretty convincingly, GSP won rounds 3 and 5 with a really small difference and it all comes down to round 1.

I'm not one to call it a robbery. It was a clear 3-2 Hendricks win in a tight fight. The shame comes from the scoring system and how a guy can get totally beat down yet still win a decision.

[Rubber Guard]

As said in the article, Yamasaki gave GSP 1 round. He said GSP was dominated. I don't give 2 shit if he is focusing on rules or putting mouthpieces in. He isn't an inept retard. He can tell who is winning. He can tell how ineffective GSPs strikes were. While GSP always felt it when Hendricks landed. He can tell who controlled the pace/fight. He has the absolute best view on planet earth.

[Beelzebubzy]

That fight he had some serious memory loss (at UFC 167). I think he's taken too many shots. An interesting statistic is that Georges has taken more punches and kicks in the last three fights than any of his fights, ever. In fact, 50% of the shots he's taken his entire career were in the last three fights. I think he should get out. I know the UFC probably doesn't want to hear me say that. I know that could be a huge rematch."

[Rubber Guard]

If he had lost sure. He owes a rematch though now that he won. That or retire. Don't sit and say you are taking time off because you knocked up a poor bitch. I don't care for ROry. But too bad for that kid. That camp screwed him up. He's sitting here at 170 not wanting to fight GSP. Waited around and lost. Seems to have lost confidence. Total regression. Rory should go to a different camp. Go train with Weidman and Serra if you plan to stay at 170.

[yisman]

As said in the article, Yamasaki gave GSP 1 round.

You mean Hendricks.

[MD]

You mean Hendricks.

No, no he doesn't.