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The way current scoring goes this kind of thing will always happen.
Rounds 2-5 were clear cut. 2 a piece.
I find it funny the fight was decided on the basis of the first round where both guys where somewhat feeling each other out. Hendricks corner didn't help his cause either at the end of the second round, adamantly saying that he was up 2 rounds to 0. That put him in cruise control for the third round where in reality that should have been the round to break Georges spirit.
But thats the way fight scoring goes, there is a WIDE margin for error. Ideally you'd want a bigger spectrum of scoring to reward dominant rounds or even marginally dominant rounds. At the moment to have a 10-8 round you have to dominate to the point of nearly knocking the guy out. Judges should be allowed to use their best judgement to determine any said round right from 5-5 being dead even right to 9-1 or 10-0 to being a complete one sided beat down. Even though there is a greater margin for discrepancies a system such as this will give the right result far more often than not.
Don't see it changing though because there isn't even any diaglog suggesting the possibility for change. Only guys like Dana White blaming athletic commissions any chance they get. We will continue to see these kinds of decisions as long as the systems remains as it is.Comment -
ah correct, my memory failed me...I thought all of the girlz in this picture were chinkz but clearly he likes to mix it up to give him the ad-van-taje
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in all seriousness, would make sense that he's got a ho preggers. Dana said it's really not a big deal and GSP kept goin on about wanting to start a "fam-il-eee" with a "'ockeee team full of iz keeeeeds"Comment -
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No worries. She's like the man on the grassy knoll. You can only see her if you squint (no chinky). What you can't see without the underwater jacuzzi jet camera, is her tranny pecker poking through GSP's ab-duck-tor. Hence the coy smile and thumb up (the bum)Comment -
Did anyone play gsp live?
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I don't think Rory can 'regain' something he's never had, which is heart and will power to fight through adversity, Rory looks great being the hammer, when he get's pressured though he mentally folds. That's not something you can 'TEACH' He's technically sound but he's missing the pieces that separates you from being a warrior to just another guy in the pack.
If it wasn't for him being Tristar backed he'd have already lost more then the Condit fight prior to this.
I hope the rematch get's booked now because Condit would rip that poor kids head off.Comment -
I missed the fight but apparently gsp got his ass kicked. The consensus is he won 2 out of 5 rounds. Thats bad for him but not terrible in general. I think if he takes some time off and comes back he might do better. This could be a motivation issue. I say that because he talks of retiring.
As for rory i think you are both right and wrong. Rory might not be aboe to regain the toughness that he hasnt had but he is still only 24 years old. He is years away from what is typically considered a fighters prime. He is 6 and 2 in the ufc already. One loss is a split and the other is a fight he was dominating until the last ten seconds. Give him a couple more years and that toughness will probably start to develope. Grantedits probably already there. It isnt really fair to say he isnt tough because he couldnt take robbie lawlers shots. Robbie is probably one the hardest hitters at 170. Top five or ten in power for sure..Comment -
thoughness , grit & heart is not something you 'develop' it has to do with what you as a person are made of, it's not teachable either.
as for GSP i hope to hell he doesn't come back, you can tell he's not hungry for it anymore, which is understandable he's cemented his legacy he's been doing this pretty much since he was a young young kid he's 32 now no more mountains to climb for him in the UFC.
i wish Anderson Silva could have done the same, because you can tell he doesn't really want it anymore either, and has been pressured into taking this rematch with Weidman, basicly he'll be out there fighting for a paycheck and it's going to hurt a bit watching him get his ass beat again by someone who still has goals to conquer and who is just starting out.Last edited by plekz; 11-17-13, 01:27 PM.Comment -
which fight did he lose which he was dominating until last 10 seconds?!
and yes Rory can develop a certain level of resolve through experience, but what these guys are talking about is that natural innate toughness that guys like Matt Brown and Carlos Condit have. Rory is a conditioned fighter, Carlos Condit is a natural fighter.Last edited by Vaughany; 11-17-13, 01:16 PM.Comment -
Rory was dominating Carlos Condit(the natural fighter) until he was knocked out in the last ten seconds. Hes already beaten some decent guys and he is only 24 years old. I'd say he is a natural fighter. I get what your saying about him not being especially gritty. He isn't Matt Brown but in fairness most guys aren't as tough as Matt Brown. Also, Rory has been fighting pro since he was 16 years old. That's gotta count for something.Comment -
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Thatch looks to have that same grit like 'i don't give a shit bring it i'll still rip your head off' mentality aswell, would love to see Thatch v Brown down the line.Comment -
+1.
Rory edged Condit in R1 & R2 and then got whooped in round 3. Also, he wasn't "knocked out in the last ten seconds"... it was a TKO stoppage and contentious at that (for the record I had money on Condit and thought it was a fortunate stoppage regardless of how Rory took it like a man afterwards). It easily could've been allowed to go the extra few seconds to the bell. IIRC Rory hip-heists to defend and Carlos pauses his barrage to regain positional control as the ref swoops in --- poor timing by the green ref. Rory would've been fine going the distance. Would've been interesting to see if it would've been scored a draw (10-9, 10-9, 8-10) or if Rory would've gotten the win thanks to the judges' allergy to a 10-8 score (especially a few years back).
Also, I agree with plekz that Rory lacks a degree of toughness. As you put it, he's a lion as the hammer but a lamb as the nail. I think Condit would rip his head off in a 5 rounder.
I'm just a li'l butthurt that I put so much on Ellen Berger vs Rory when she was on her period when the same holes I saw in Rory for that fight I didn't capitalize on for the Lawler fight at even larger +money odds... just a small f'in Inside The Distance prop on ruthless. Sigh. Kudos to anyone who had Robbie... great job.Comment -
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I'll be cashing my 401k (if i had one) on Condit against Brown, where do you see Condit opening for that fight? Because the way i see it (cap it) Browns one chance at winning would be a TKO due to injury on ConditComment -
Damn, that Jack Slack dudes praise of a fighter is like a kiss of death these days..Comment -
Just me or has Brittney had plastic surgery to face and further augmentation to the titties? Titties def look bigger! Her face is starting to look like typical glam whore who gets obsessed with plastic surgery
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I thought her
looked bigger at weigh-ins. Dumb whores.
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penetrating Cerrone, the most inconsistent fighter in the UFC. Looked like absolute shit in the Anjos fight, completely starches Dunham like that.Comment -
Poor penetrating Brittney.
I dont think looking in the mirror like that hurts anymore..no tears...only shattered dreams now! ;(
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First you have the judges score Davis VS Machida and now this. You have to be out of your mind to score the big fights. Ill probably puss out and stay in prelims/facebook fights range. penetrate THIS SHIT!!!Comment -
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lol Vaughany Vaughany
Well I said it before the fight boys. You wanna beat the champ? you gotta finish him (or clearly dominate all rounds). A close fight always goes to the champ he gets the benefit of the doubt. Lesson learned and move on..Comment -
what the penetrate are you talking about? Did you even read the rules? He lost.
GSP did not pin Johny down for more than 7 seconds.
Do you even know what pinning an opponent means? A scramble or reversal on the ground is not pinning someone. You need to hold their back on the canvas for more than 7 seconds.
Besides since Im trying to be a nice guy he does not have to change his avatars. Its ok. All I expect is for him to acknowledge than I clearly won the bet and know more about mma. I need my ego stroked hard and slow (preferably with some vaseline) c'mon stroke it boys.Last edited by rosietop; 11-18-13, 08:08 AM.Comment -
I read the rules, and you clearly lost. "Won't count: pushing him up against the cage, Take him down then Johny gets back up immediately via scramble or cagewalk. " GSP took him down and threatened him with a submission immediately. Not only did he get a clear takedown, but he did something with it and tried to finish the fight.what the penetrate are you talking about? Did you even read the rules? He lost.
GSP did not pin Johny down for more than 7 seconds.Comment -
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yeah read the second sentence:
And by "takedown" I mean a full takedown where Johny is pinned to the ground for more than like 7 seconds.
Do you even know what the world "pin" means in wrestling?
You guys are unbelievable trying to squeeze out of a bet YOU asked for!! how pathetic...
If you were going to argue semantics like this, why did you even ask for the bet, I thought you guys were you know, decent guys. my mistake.
Heres some advice: I strongly suggest not betting against me if you cant handle losing. WannaBet thought he could show me up both on Sherdog and SBR and yet got his ass handed to him, thats what happens when you bet against me son. grow up and learn.Last edited by rosietop; 11-18-13, 08:15 AM.Comment
) for pretty much the same reason. I'd like to see both come back and do well, but it may be too late for GSP. He's lost something he can't regain.
