UFC 167: St. Pierre Vs Hendricks

[The iron sheik]

lol Vaughany Vaughany

Well I said it before the fight boys. You wanna beat the champ? you gotta finish him (or clearly dominate all rounds). A close fight always goes to the champ he gets the benefit of the doubt. Lesson learned and move on..

I've missed the part of the unified rules that says this. Could you point it out for me?

[MD]

yeah read the second sentence:

And by "takedown" I mean a full takedown where Johny is pinned to the ground for more than like 7 seconds.

Do you even know what the world "pin" means in wrestling?

You guys are unbelievable trying to squeeze out of a bet YOU asked for!! how pathetic...

If you were going to argue semantics like this, why did you even ask for the bet, I thought you guys were you know, decent guys. my mistake.

Heres some advice: I strongly suggest not betting against me if you cant handle losing. WannaBet thought he could show me up both on Sherdog and SBR and yet got his ass handed to him, thats what happens when you bet against me son. grow up and learn.

That was obviously just banter. You posted the rules later on down in the post, by saying: "Won't count: pushing him up against the cage, Take him down then Johny gets back up immediately via scramble or cagewalk.", yet you're claiming that "I mean a full takedown where Johny is pinned to the ground for more than like 7 seconds" is the actual criteria for the bet?

No idea why you're acting as if I had anything to do with the bet. I never commented on it, nor was I a participant.

[rosietop]

I've missed the part of the unified rules that says this. Could you point it out for me?

hey shiek Im not justifying it! That fight Johny clearly won but I dont make the rules!

[The iron sheik]

hey shiek Im not justifying it! That fight Johny clearly won but I dont make the rules!

What rule?

[rosietop]

That was obviously just banter. You posted the rules later on down in the post, by saying: "Won't count: pushing him up against the cage, Take him down then Johny gets back up immediately via scramble or cagewalk.", yet you're claiming that "I mean a full takedown where Johny is pinned to the ground for more than like 7 seconds" is the actual criteria for the bet?

No idea why you're acting as if I had anything to do with the bet. I never commented on it, nor was I a participant.

Just Banter? Right, know I know you're trolling. Look, its ok dont honor the bet, No Big deal.

I just cant believe people take the internet so seriously that they cant even honor a bet that HE wanted!! Not like I was coming to him and asking for it!! lol

This is why I clearly state the rules before the fights becuase people get lose bets and want to squeeze out of the rules. Then you have people who think the rules were banter lol

What rule?

that you have to clearly beat the champ to become the champ. you want me to link to it?

[MD]

Just Banter? Right, know I know you're trolling. Look, its ok dont honor the bet, No Big deal.

I just cant believe people take the internet so seriously that they cant even honor a bet that HE wanted!! Not like I was coming to him and asking for it!! lol

This is why I clearly state the rules before the fights becuase people get hurt and want to squeeze out of the rules. Then you have people who think the rules were banter lol

You gave the rules clearly by stating what doesn't count. Saying he has to hold him down "for more than like 7 seconds" doesn't sound official to me brah. He got a clear takedown, held him down, and mounted some offence. From an outsider perspective, keeping in mind that I have no position on your bet, I would consider it pretty clear that you lost. That's all I'm saying.

[The iron sheik]

Yes, please link me to the rule.

[rosietop]

You gave the rules clearly by stating what doesn't count. Saying he has to hold him down "for more than like 7 seconds" doesn't sound official to me brah. He got a clear takedown, held him down, and mounted some offence. From an outsider perspective, keeping in mind that I have no position on your bet, I would consider it pretty clear that you lost. That's all I'm saying.

I did give the rules of what doesn't count and I even also told him my definition of a takedown so there was no misunderstanding.

"I mean a full takedown where Johny is pinned to the ground for more than like 7 seconds"

Thats what a takedown is, where you pin someone (hold their back on the canvas for more than 7 seconds and scrambles or reversals dont count)

I even told him my definition of a takedown and still you wont accept it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin_%28amateur_wrestling%29

[rosietop]

Yes, please link me to the rule.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/boxing-mma-ufc-betting/2240080-johnny-hendricks-will-beat-gsp-p2.html#post20214612

I believe this will be a very close fight and I think GSP takes a split decision (albeit a controversial one). You gotta clearly win all the rounds to become the new champ remember that. If the fight is close the benefit of the doubt will always go to the champ as it should.

Just curios is there a reason why you wanted me to link to it? you dont believe me?

[The iron sheik]

No, you are saying that you have to dominate a champion to become one. Now, I didn't ask when you put out this absurd notion the first time. What I did ask though, is that where in the unified rules of MMA does it say that?

[MD]

I did give the rules of what doesn't count and I even also told him my definition of a takedown so there was no misunderstanding.

"I mean a full takedown where Johny is pinned to the ground for more than like 7 seconds"

Thats what a takedown is, where you pin someone (hold their back on the canvas for more than 7 seconds and scrambles or reversals dont count)

I even told him my definition of a takedown and still you wont accept it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin_%28...r_wrestling%29

It's sort of meaningless to say that you meant "pin" in a wrestling context, isn't it? We're talking about an MMA match here, and in an MMA match, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would not consider that a takedown. I understand not counting takedowns where Hendricks immediately returns to his feet and GSP does nothing with it, but that is not what happened here. By your definition, if GSP had held Hendricks down for all of R1, you still would have won the bet as long as Hendricks' shoulder blades were not on the mat for extended periods of time.

[rosietop]

MD Brah, Pin (if you want to translate it to mma rules) basically means to hold him down on his back for more than 7 seconds I dont know why you are trying so hard to shift the rules for him?

I havent got time to talk anymore. He either accepts that I won or does not. Simple.

[rosietop]

It's sort of meaningless to say that you meant "pin" in a wrestling context, isn't it? We're talking about an MMA match here, and in an MMA match, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would not consider that a takedown. I understand not counting takedowns where Hendricks immediately returns to his feet and GSP does nothing with it, but that is not what happened here. By your definition, if GSP had held Hendricks down for all of R1, you still would have won the bet as long as Hendricks' shoulder blades were not on the mat for extended periods of time.

I am not saying that it was not a takedown! Im saying that he did not hold Hendricks down for more than 7 seconds on his back it was more like 3 or 4 seconds on his back!!

Listen kids if you cannot handle losing, dont bet with me.

[rosietop]

No, you are saying that you have to dominate a champion to become one. Now, I didn't ask when you put out this absurd notion the first time. What I did ask though, is that where in the unified rules of MMA does it say that?

It does not say that in the rules. I never said it did. It was just an observation by me. my opinion.

[The iron sheik]

It does not say that in the rules. I never said it did. It was just an observation by me. my opinion.

"I don't make the rules"


"Hendricks cannot win unless the magic unicorn is visible in between rounds"
*GSP wins*
"You see, no unicorn. It's not fair but I don't make the rules"

[MD]

MD Brah, Pin (if you want to translate it to mma rules) basically means to hold him down on his back for more than 7 seconds I dont know why you are trying so hard to shift the rules for him?

I havent got time to talk anymore. He either accepts that I won or does not. Simple.

It's clearly not me trying to "shift" the rules here. I guess we'll see what Wannabet thinks, since he's the other party.

[rosietop]

It's clearly not me trying to "shift" the rules here. I guess we'll see what Wannabet thinks, since he's the other party.

I am not saying that it was not a takedown! Im saying that he did not hold Hendricks down for more than 7 seconds on his back it was more like 3 or 4 seconds on his back!! Then Johny got back up!!

Are you slow or just trolling?

[rosietop]

I just cant believe people care so much about the internet that they cant even accept losing (or their egos wont allow it)

get rid of the ego bro trust me it will do you wonders.

[Vaughany]

yeah read the second sentence:

And by "takedown" I mean a full takedown where Johny is pinned to the ground for more than like 7 seconds.

Do you even know what the world "pin" means in wrestling?

You guys are unbelievable trying to squeeze out of a bet YOU asked for!! how pathetic...

If you were going to argue semantics like this, why did you even ask for the bet, I thought you guys were you know, decent guys. my mistake.

Heres some advice: I strongly suggest not betting against me if you cant handle losing. WannaBet thought he could show me up both on Sherdog and SBR and yet got his ass handed to him, thats what happens when you bet against me son. grow up and learn.

[MD]

I just cant believe people care so much about the internet that they cant even accept losing (or their egos wont allow it)

get rid of the ego bro trust me it will do you wonders.

How ironic.

[rosietop]

dont you worry I have read many psychology books. I know most people are not reasonable. The evidence is right there in you're face, I am not saying that GSP did not take Johny down he did! But He only had him on his back for like 3 seconds then Johny got right back up!! The bet was for 7 seconds, despite having all the evidence in you're face people still cannot accept the truth just like how religious people cant accept the truth, Its just the way human animals are, I have seen it studied in many psychology tests, show people a fact that they disagree with and guess what? they do not change their believes, in fact they actually form a stronger opposition with the fact and a firmer belief!

[MD]

dont you worry I have read many psychology books. I know most people are not reasonable. The evidence is right there in you're face, I am not saying that GSP did not take Johny down he did! But He only had him on his back for like 3 seconds then Johny got right back up!! The bet was for 7 seconds, despite having all the evidence in you're face people still cannot accept the truth just like how religious people cant accept the truth, Its just the way human animals are, I have seen it studied in many psychology tests, show people a fact that they disagree with and guess what? they do not change their believes, in fact they actually form a stronger opposition with the fact and a firmer belief!

Oh, well in that case, forget the facts and rules, GSP clearly didn't get a "real" takedown. In fact, he wasn't even wearing a singlet!

[rosietop]

for anyone who wants to make bets with me in the future...

if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen.

[Vaughany]

[The iron sheik]

It's ok rosie, no one likes losing.

[The iron sheik]

Kind of sad watching the post fight pressers, people shitting on Georges...who in all honesty seems like a really decent guy. I'd guess he has some fukked up issue about not having things in his life besides fighting. Probably something normal, like he wants a family or something lame like that.

[MD]

Kind of sad watching the post fight pressers, people shitting on Georges...who in all honesty seems like a really decent guy. I'd guess he has some fukked up issue about not having things in his life besides fighting. Probably something normal, like he wants a family or something lame like that.

People are speculating that he's gay. We'll likely never find out what his issues were, though.

[Vaughany]

People are speculating that he's gay. We'll likely never find out what his issues were, though.

lol

Dey iz crazee in the 'ed man! I doubt he'd be talkin about having a famileeeee wit lots of kiiids if he was a bumder

[The iron sheik]

People are speculating that he's gay. We'll likely never find out what his issues were, though.

Might be, though I think people speculating he is gay are working too much on his accent

[Vaughany]

the redneck hick on GSP's right with the skulls on his shirt is his boyfriend.

"ee 'elp meee work on my top position...gives me a 'uuuge ad-van-taje"

[MD]

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• Luca Fury @FurysFightPicks2m
  I mean, that's pretty much as bad as personal issues can be. One is as heartbreaking as can be, the other is life changing. Dana is nuts.

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• Luca Fury @FurysFightPicks4m
  So GSP is having a kid against his will and his dad is dying, yet Dana says his problems aren't as bad as GSP thinks? Uh they sound horrible

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[Vaughany]

hmmm I said on on sherdog that he's got a chick preggerz and his dad is probably ill. TMZ aint paid me for that shiiit!

Georges St-Pierre will take a break from the UFC to handle 2 major personal crises -- his father is dying and he got a woman pregnant and doesn't want her to have the baby ... TMZ Sports has learned.

GSP repeatedly made cryptic remarks after his controversial win Saturday over Johny Hendricks at UFC 167 -- telling Joe Rogan he needed to step away from the sport to deal with personal issues.

Now, sources familiar with the situation tell TMZ Sports ... Georges' dad is dying and it's derailed him.

And there's this ... GSP recently learned he knocked up a woman -- and he doesn't want to have a baby with her but she insists on keeping it.

After his fight on Saturday, GSP said his situation is so bad he can't sleep -- "I'm going crazy. I have issues, man. I need to relax. I need to get out for a while. I don't know what I'm going to do."

It's clear ... Georges was not himself in the ring ... something that was written all over his face after the fight.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/18/george...#ixzz2l15IuzDk

[yisman]

the whole thing with people claiming the champion should get anything that's close is absurd to begin with. The winner of the fight should be decided based on the fight.

And even if you made that argument. Hendricks/GSP was not a close fight.

[MD]

the whole thing with people claiming the champion should get anything that's close is absurd to begin with. The winner of the fight should be decided based on the fight.

And even if you made that argument. Hendricks/GSP was not a close fight.

Easy to tell who knows MMA and who doesn't by post-fight comments like these.

[yisman]

That's great, but lots of people who know MMA stated Hendricks clearly won three rounds.

Obviously you believe you know more about MMA than everyone else.

I never said I know MMA, but I watched it and I read numerous opinions from various fight sites.