UFC on FX 8: Mighty Mouse vs Moraga (7-27-13)

**Thor4140** · 07-27-13, 08:25 PM

if machida beat henderson than rory beat Jake

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 07-27-13, 08:26 PM

this kid is good but why does he never fight in vegas? hmmmm...

**Demonata** · 07-27-13, 08:26 PM

penetrate that fight. Thought ellengerger would try to knock him out. For some reason he decided to be useless.

**Catchn_Picks** · 07-27-13, 08:27 PM

Clear case of the longer reach with an outstanding jab is pure money for a fighter or bettor.

Mouse left in a ton of closing parlays and Moraga to hedge.

Go Mouse!! Moraga 7-0 coming in...make it 7-1!!

**sideloaded** · 07-27-13, 08:27 PM

i ****** up that andrade bet, my bad guys

thought she had better jitz

**Demonata** · 07-27-13, 08:27 PM

I hope mighty mouse loses.

**Thor4140** · 07-27-13, 08:27 PM

Fans who hated that fight need to leave mma. not all fights are bar room brawls. i was on the edge of my seat and everyone thought going it it would be a great fight. The fight suked but this is what happens with guys this high up looking for a title shot. Im sure Jake will talk about how he didnt break a sweat forgetting he did next to nothing but get neutralized

**BeerBottlez** · 07-27-13, 08:27 PM

They better not let MacDonald and Ellenberger fight each other again that was as painful as it gets to watch.

I can appreciate a defensive battle but that was embarrassing.

**Thor4140** · 07-27-13, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

i ****** up that andrade bet, my bad guys

thought she had better jitz

no biggie dude. nobody forced me to put my money up but me. anyone pissed needs to get another hobby. Do u think we won round one?

**mirinquads** · 07-27-13, 08:29 PM

As expected. Good job at not keeping up with the TD Burger.

**Demonata** · 07-27-13, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

Fans who hated that fight need to leave mma. not all fights are bar room brawls. i was on the edge of my seat and everyone thought going it it would be a great fight. The fight suked but this is what happens with guys this high up looking for a title shot. Im sure Jake will talk about how he didnt break a sweat forgetting he did next to nothing but get neutralized

Fans who think Jake even showed up for this fight need to leave mma. Anybody who clearly is a fan and who knows how Jake fights could see he was the exact opposite for this fight. When a fighter does not try the whole fight fans have a right to hate it.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 07-27-13, 08:29 PM

brawlers usually get worked by technicians.

perfect example tonight.

yeah it was a boring fight but rory's game plan was good.

MD · 07-27-13, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

i ****** up that andrade bet, my bad guys

thought she had better jitz

You could do a lot worse than being on the wrong side at +450. You're rarely going to be -EV by much, if you're -EV at all.

MD · 07-27-13, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Das Jax

I cannot believe the night I just had. I don't even care about Mighty Mouse anymore.

How much of your roll did you lose?

**Sykes** · 07-27-13, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

Fans who hated that fight need to leave mma. not all fights are bar room brawls. i was on the edge of my seat and everyone thought going it it would be a great fight. The fight suked but this is what happens with guys this high up looking for a title shot. Im sure Jake will talk about how he didnt break a sweat forgetting he did next to nothing but get neutralized

Yeah real exciting dude. Technically boring, them suits are taming Rory dude is a stone killer now he just does what he needs to. Its boring. Great fighting but boring.

**Das Jax** · 07-27-13, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by MD

If losing a few bets is enough to send you into degen tilt mode, you should take some time off and work on your mental game.

Discipline is important. Don't make that mistake again. Especially not with such a massively -EV bet.

Wise words.

**Demonata** · 07-27-13, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

brawlers usually get worked by technicians.

perfect example tonight.

yeah it was a boring fight but rory's game plan was good.

Brawlers will still attempt to brawl. He didn't even attempt to. I think it was more of Jake not even attempting to do shit then rorys gameplan...

**sideloaded** · 07-27-13, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

no biggie dude. nobody forced me to put my money up but me. anyone pissed needs to get another hobby. Do u think we won round one?

probably not but knowing jessica that choke was close. It's her calling card. I did win a few on not carmouche -280 in rnd 1 but lost a bunch on the o2.5 and the decsion props.

**Thor4140** · 07-27-13, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Sykes

Shite fight though. He used to be a killer now he just wins fights.

loL he just smashed BJ. On another note i can't wait to hear how after one fight everyone thinks he is fighting like GSP and playing it safe.

**Das Jax** · 07-27-13, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by MD

How much of your roll did you lose?

Started with 25 units before UFC 162, worked that up to 36 before tonight.

...currently at 12.

MD · 07-27-13, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

Brawlers will still attempt to brawl. He didn't even attempt to. I think it was more of Jake not even attempting to do shit then rorys gameplan...

Then you don't understand what you just watched. No offence.

**sideloaded** · 07-27-13, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by MD

You could do a lot worse than being on the wrong side at +450. You're rarely going to be -EV by much, if you're -EV at all.

thanks man, thought I was going to get killed on the boards. But hey I took two underdogs tonight Germaine and Andrade and went 1-1

**On2TheNext1** · 07-27-13, 08:36 PM

Love the walkout music

**shabang** · 07-27-13, 08:36 PM

who are you guys on for the last fight

**KalouKalou** · 07-27-13, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by BeerBottlez

They better not let MacDonald and Ellenberger fight each other again that was as painful as it gets to watch.

I can appreciate a defensive battle but that was embarrassing.

This fight was gold

MD · 07-27-13, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by Das Jax

Started with 25 units before UFC 162, worked that up to 36 before tonight.

...currently at 12.

It happens to a lot of people. My advice is to just forget about it, reduce your bet sizes to 1/3rd what they were, and continue on as normal. Build your roll back up, and if you ever go on degen tilt again, you should probably quit gambling. It'll either be a learning experience of a recurring problem.

**Catchn_Picks** · 07-27-13, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by Das Jax

Started with 25 units before UFC 162, worked that up to 36 before tonight.

...currently at 12.

I use a 1-1.5% of my BR for my top tier plays...I do not play big but have played on the same roll for 3+ years...never reloaded. Bad streaks just don't affect me...the key is to stay in the game.

BOL

**Demonata** · 07-27-13, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by MD

Then you don't understand what you just watched. No offence.

No offense but if you really think Jake stuck to how he fights you obviously must of had your eyes closed.

**mirinquads** · 07-27-13, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

i ****** up that andrade bet, my bad guys

thought she had better jitz

Value was on Andrade my friend, you made a lot of us a lot of money so my, me at least. Keep it up

**Thor4140** · 07-27-13, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

Fans who think Jake even showed up for this fight need to leave mma. Anybody who clearly is a fan and who knows how Jake fights could see he was the exact opposite for this fight. When a fighter does not try the whole fight fans have a right to hate it.

Dude he was trying. He wasn't fighting Diego Sanchez where he could run in risking his beard. Rory is the real deal and not easy to get inside of

**Sykes** · 07-27-13, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

loL he just smashed BJ. On another note i can't wait to hear how after one fight everyone thinks he is fighting like GSP and playing it safe.

That's exactly what he is doing no? - winning fights? - dont get me wrong man hes a beast, will be on him for whoever he fights next, its just boring though.

**Catchn_Picks** · 07-27-13, 08:38 PM

Let's go MOUSE!!!!!!!!!

I have tried to beat you for years and lost....please now win when I finally back you!!

**sideloaded** · 07-27-13, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

Value was on Andrade my friend, you made a lot of us a lot of money so my, me at least. Keep it up

I will hit you guys back up once these tuf bitches start fighting on cards. the finalists are easy to spot on twitter.

MD · 07-27-13, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

thanks man, thought I was going to get killed on the boards. But hey I took two underdogs tonight Germaine and Andrade and went 1-1

You're a solid handicapper. The only people who will criticize you are guys like Ron_Paul, and who gives a shit about Ron_Paul? Most of my plays have been cashing recently, but I'm running way ahead of EV, and my expected profits are lower than my actual profits. Once I start running EV-neutral or even -EV, a lot of guys are going to dive on me, trust me. Doesn't bother me.

It's those same guys who don't understand variance and will lose long-term.

MD · 07-27-13, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by Catchn_Picks

I use a 1-1.5% of my BR for my top tier plays...I do not play big but have played on the same roll for 3+ years...never reloaded. Bad streaks just don't affect me...the key is to stay in the game.

BOL

1.5% is too tight for optimum growth in my opinion. I have 10%+ of my roll on fights all the time.