Cat Zingano will beat Miesha Tate and Ronda Rousey.

[Sacrelicious]

Excellent post sideloaded, I'm in agreement with just about everything you said. I'm curious to see where the Tate/Zingano line opens, I'll be all over Zingano.

If she opens where I think she will vs Rousey (+300 to 400 range?) all the value will be on Zingano in that fight.

[gabe]

A couple more protein shakes and Gabe's gonna be ready for that.

Be the Anti Dolce - help me gain weight for weigh ins

"I feed my fighters to the scale" -Dolce ....lol i would love to see him spoon-feed Thiago Alves just before Alves steps on the scale

[gabe]

Personal assistant? Sideloaded, you're growing on me like a benign tumour.

I think I'd have to do a casting couch call first (videotaped of course) but once I go through the obligatory 30 "candidates", I think underpaying one lucky underqualified college whore is a great idea.

BTW, I can't tweet fight_ghost. He blocked me on twitter ages ago. What kind of a loser blocks other people on twitter? That's some WannaBet on Vaughany level stupidity.

(On the realz, we never had beef... I dunno why he did it - maybe it's because I'm a huge douchebag, yeah that's probably it - but regardless he's free to do whatever he pleases).

Dana White, Dwight from The Office, Kevin Smith, and Doug Benson all have me blocked lol

[Rubber Guard]

I don't believe in betting any of these girls. Any weight, any tranny orgy, any mismatch, anything. I don't believe in it.

[Sacrelicious]

I don't believe in betting any of these girls. Any weight, any tranny orgy, any mismatch, anything. I don't believe in it.

Your loss, I guess.

I find its easier to handicap, to be honest.

[Grabaka]

Guys, i dont believe in money. I know its cool and it can be earned working or it can be won betting. I just dont believe in it.
JK

[Sacrelicious]

[Vaughany]

lol

Reminds me of some of the absolute morons that where talking up rousey's striking in the Kaufman fight. How she came out so aggressive. She missed 4 jabs in a row. And the jabs were god awful. A JAB.

Cant make this shit up.

She made Tate look good striking. That says it all right there.




from sherdogs boxing section

Anyone talking about rousey's striking as "good" is just an idiot of epic proportions.

But like I said striking doesnt matter much in wmma. no KO power. Only people like kaufman who can score points and not be taken down can win with striking.

There really is no point about talking about it unless cyborg is fighting. or you like watching amateur point fighting contests (like kaufmans fights)

I think a lot of people are just basing it on what that Armo keeps saying in every primetown

[Vaughany]

Yes hannibal, thats her. Thanks for the pics buddy.

I think she fights at atomweight or minimumweight.

or even Gaberzweight

[Vaughany]

A couple more protein shakes and Gabe's gonna be ready for that.

lmao didnt see this till after I posted above

[Vaughany]

Personal assistant? Sideloaded, you're growing on me like a benign tumour.

I think I'd have to do a casting couch call first (videotaped of course) but once I go through the obligatory 30 "candidates", I think underpaying one lucky underqualified college whore is a great idea.

BTW, I can't tweet fight_ghost. He blocked me on twitter ages ago. What kind of a loser blocks other people on twitter? That's some WannaBet on Vaughany level stupidity.

(On the realz, we never had beef... I dunno why he did it - maybe it's because I'm a huge douchebag, yeah that's probably it - but regardless he's free to do whatever he pleases).

[Vaughany]

I doubt it's because you are a "douchebag". It's probably because you are a such a clingy loser who looks for validation from others whereever he can. Not to mention a living joke on the internet. Just google "mma fanboy", lol.

I can't for the life of me figure out why you post here when I doubt a single person respects you. Is sherdog down or something? Or are you just on a mission for validation with your pathetic avatar, lol?

It seriously begs the question, do you have autism? When I read this shit I coulda swore it was you

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/23/steven-simpson-gay-teen-burned-birthday-_n_2939092.html

A gay teen with assburgers and a speech impetiment who seemingly enjoyed being mocked and humiliated on a grand scale.

Cant make it up

lol saw that the other day, poor kid was loving it at first...was getting all turned on by the freaky shiit....then it went a bit too far!

[PunisherIND]

Dana White, Dwight from The Office, Kevin Smith, and Doug Benson all have me blocked lol

lmao! dwight from the office? hahaha. whats the story behind that one?

[Vaughany]

lmao! dwight from the office? hahaha. whats the story behind that one?

He'd tweeted Gaberz mocking his math skillz and for not picking enough winnerz so Gaberz went ape-shit on him. At least thats what I imagine

[PunisherIND]

He'd tweeted Gaberz mocking his math skillz and for not picking enough winnerz so Gaberz went ape-shit on him. At least thats what I imagine

Lol gaberz showed up at schrute farms.

[Vaughany]

haha

[gabe]

lmao! dwight from the office? hahaha. whats the story behind that one?

He kept posting unfunny tweets, and I tweeted at him saying maybe he should get the writers of The Office to tweet for him or something like that -- his character his real funny and he's painfully unfunny, was my point.

[gabe]

Dana White blocked me 'cos I tweeted him "f*ck you" after they cut Fitch and a million other fighters

Kevin Smith blocked me 'cos I told him I was disappointed by his last movie lol- I don't think I even insulted

Doug Benson was when I forgot got a twitter ages ago, jokingly referred to him as a douche while talkin to someone else and he blocked me

[gabe]

Dana White blocked me 'cos I tweeted him "f*ck you" after they cut Fitch and a million other fighters

Kevin Smith blocked me 'cos I told him I was disappointed by his last movie lol- I don't think I even insulted

Doug Benson was when I forgot got a twitter ages ago, jokingly referred to him as a douche while talkin to someone else and he blocked me

first got* not forgot

[MD]

Rousey's striking is not as bad as you make it sound, so I don't know how much you're exaggerating with the rest of your post... There's no way you can train with the striking coaches she trains with every day and still be a poor striker. It's just not possible, I don't care who you are.

Ben Askren trains with Duke Roufus.

I just disproved everything you've ever believed about striking training in six words.

[gabe]

Ben Askren trains with Duke Roufus.

I just disproved everything you've ever believed about striking training in six words.

I don't recall ever seeing Askren attempt to strike so can't comment on this

[gabe]

I don't recall ever seeing Askren attempt to strike so can't comment on this

If Dick Roufus can't take a fighter like Ben Askren and turn him into a barely average striker, then he's a piss poor striking coach. If you can't mold a guy like Askren to be barely average then you can't do sh!t

[gabe]

most fighters roufus coaches came up as strikers before he started coaching them, if he can't take an extremely talented non-striker like askren and mold him to at least not be shitty, then he shouldn't call himself a striking coach


i don't think that's the case, though.

[MD]

most fighters roufus coaches came up as strikers before he started coaching them, if he can't take an extremely talented non-striker like askren and mold him to at least not be shitty, then he shouldn't call himself a striking coach


i don't think that's the case, though.

Lol.

There's no way you can train with the striking coaches she trains with every day and still be a poor striker. It's just not possible, I don't care who you are.

[FightFightFight]

Striking takes years, but no question Olympic level athletes will have a faster learning curve. Thing with Ronda is we wont know until someone challenges her, otherwise its Plan A, as fast as possible, everytime. Her back being taken imo is more a result of her overconfidence in what she does, than a lack of grappling skill. She may well have to lose to see much more improvement.

[gabe]

Lol.

Wow, you seriously so dumb that you over-looked "i don't think that's the case, though"

YOU'RE practically saying Roufus can't coach for shit, not me.

[gabe]

Striking takes years, but no question Olympic level athletes will have a faster learning curve. Thing with Ronda is we wont know until someone challenges her, otherwise its Plan A, as fast as possible, everytime. Her back being taken imo is more a result of her overconfidence in what she does, than a lack of grappling skill. She may well have to lose to see much more improvement.

I'm sure Ronda's striking isn't great. After all, she is a she.

It's completely retarded to use her intentional air-jabs as the main reason for why her striking sucks.

Compared to the pool of womens 135lb fighters, it'd be safe to say Ronda's striking is ok. Her boxing, anyway.

[sideloaded]

I'm sure Ronda's striking isn't great. After all, she is a she.

It's completely retarded to use her intentional air-jabs as the main reason for why her striking sucks.

Compared to the pool of womens 135lb fighters, it'd be safe to say Ronda's striking is ok. Her boxing, anyway.

why the f_ck are you still hung up and talking about her striking???? IT MEANS F_CK ALL IN WMMA

but you're right it's completely retarded to use her striking as the main reason for why her striking sucks.

[gabe]

why the f_ck are you still hung up and talking about her striking???? IT MEANS F_CK ALL IN WMMA

but you're right it's completely retarded to use her striking as the main reason for why her striking sucks.

That's what I said? Wow, you really are an idiot lol

[MD]

Wow, you seriously so dumb that you over-looked "i don't think that's the case, though"

YOU'RE practically saying Roufus can't coach for shit, not me.

No, I'm saying that coaches aren't miracle workers. Andre Ward trained with the Cesar Gracie camp for a while, a camp that, by itself, has had some pretty exceptional MMA strikers as it is. Yet, Jake Shields, an elite-level MMA grappler, still can't strike for shit.

You have no idea what you're talking about Gabe.

[Sacrelicious]

No, I'm saying that coaches aren't miracle workers. Andre Ward trained with the Cesar Gracie camp for a while, a camp that, by itself, has had some pretty exceptional MMA strikers as it is. Yet, Jake Shields, an elite-level MMA grappler, still can't strike for shit.

You have no idea what you're talking about Gabe.

I like you Gabe, I really do, but the bolded statement is becoming more evident.

[sideloaded]

my nikka gabe finally seeing the light

@RondaRousey does NOT want to fight Cyborg & she knows it. She dropped to 135 to avoid Cyborg. This is coming from a Ronda (not Cyborg) fan.

from gabe's twitter. Also gabe look up sara mcmann's interview on sherdog, Cyborg isnt the only female fighter Ronda has been ducking since 2011. Sara vs Ronda was going to happen in shark fights with SARA giving ronda 5 lbs the fight was going to happen at 140. Ronda's manager ducked her.

[TheCrow]

sideloaded, i just signed on to this forum because i came across your thread on a google search on tate and zingano fight odds, read your original post and realized that it was very deep and intelligent. It was also said during the chat on vipbox during the invicta fights that there was a great mma forum on sbr so we'll see.

i've been searching for the miesha tate/cat zingano odds since the fight was announced. I've been hoping that zingano has been as close to even money as much as possible just because everyone knows miesha tate a little too much and not enough about cat zingano. Just watching the zingano/barb honchak fight shows you how much of a grinder that cat zingano is. I've also watched the grappling match online between tate and sara mcmann and miesha tate is not on mcmann or zingano's level. Miesha tate is too lackluster, it shows in her fights and she spends too much time on twitter. Her fight camps are also very questionable, especially when she took a "vacation" to be in japan for her boyfriends fight and then staying the following week to train with roxanne modaferi and other japanese fighters? I'm sorry but no one who trains in japan makes it in the ufc. The top fighters from japan who have had some success in the ufc (there aren't many outside of yushin okami) have trained extensively in the U.S.

Miesha tate isn't even an intelligent corner person. Did you hear what she said after 2 rounds to bryan caraway? she told him to coast in the 3rd round because he had the first 2 rounds in the bag and then had the audacity to go back on twitter, ask dana white to give caraway his win bonus due to the judges being incompetent. I mean if you watched her press conference after the kedzie fight, before the ufc women's division was even announced, you can just tell that her mind was not into mma, but for this fight of course she's in it with a lot on the line but she is not a dedicated fighter. I believe she still has bad credit with urijah faber's gym or at least had bad credit and those are the type of gyms she should be training at, not with bryan caraway who is an idiot.

I know some people might state that with what goes outside of the octagon will have no bearing on the fight but it does because because mental character in a fight can be just as important as the obvious physical part. And when it comes to the mental aspect of this match, i give the nod to zingano, HUGE. If you don't think tate's ass is as flat as a pancake, it will be after the fight is over because cat zingano is going to dominate on top position.

i also agree with you on the ronda rousey match but i don't want to talk much about that fight right now just because miesha tate is the task at hand and i want to make a lot of money betting against her on saturday. sideloaded, it's important for you to understand why someone might bash you for not thinking highly of ronda rousey.

rousey has been training with armenians for a very long time and it's important to understand what armenian culture is about. They are people with a lot of pride and take things very very personal if someone goes against their people. I know ronda rousey is not armenian but all those guys there have taken her under their wings as if she is one of their own, including manny gamburyan. It's very hard to explain but the nick diaz/nate diaz culture are very similiar. They back their people 100% and overprotect so much that violence gets brought into the equation at times. So if you know all of this stuff ahead of time, this will increase your chances that you stay focused on your intelligent write ups instead of the thread getting flooded with the trollin' bullshit. The only thing that i need to see are things that apply to the fights at hand, not having to read someone calling you dumb because you said ronda rousey's striking is not respectable. Honestly if ronda rousey's striking was respectable, then they should offer their assessment as to why...but no need to call anyone dumb because then it becomes personal.

I say this because there is always a chance that ronda rousey will beat sara mcmann or cat zingano although i feel very very highly unlikely. It's not a 7 game series, and there is just so much on the line, to fight for the title, to be the opposing coach on TUF, if cat zingano was injured? Guarantee you that she will fight injured but then not be able to win the fight, so we'll see.

[Wanna Bet On It?]

sideloaded, i just signed on to this forum because i came across your thread on a google search on tate and zingano fight odds, read your original post and realized that it was very deep and intelligent. It was also said during the chat on vipbox during the invicta fights that there was a great mma forum on sbr so we'll see.

i've been searching for the miesha tate/cat zingano odds since the fight was announced. I've been hoping that zingano has been as close to even money as much as possible just because everyone knows miesha tate a little too much and not enough about cat zingano. Just watching the zingano/barb honchak fight shows you how much of a grinder that cat zingano is. I've also watched the grappling match online between tate and sara mcmann and miesha tate is not on mcmann or zingano's level. Miesha tate is too lackluster, it shows in her fights and she spends too much time on twitter. Her fight camps are also very questionable, especially when she took a "vacation" to be in japan for her boyfriends fight and then staying the following week to train with roxanne modaferi and other japanese fighters? I'm sorry but no one who trains in japan makes it in the ufc. The top fighters from japan who have had some success in the ufc (there aren't many outside of yushin okami) have trained extensively in the U.S.

Miesha tate isn't even an intelligent corner person. Did you hear what she said after 2 rounds to bryan caraway? she told him to coast in the 3rd round because he had the first 2 rounds in the bag and then had the audacity to go back on twitter, ask dana white to give caraway his win bonus due to the judges being incompetent. I mean if you watched her press conference after the kedzie fight, before the ufc women's division was even announced, you can just tell that her mind was not into mma, but for this fight of course she's in it with a lot on the line but she is not a dedicated fighter. I believe she still has bad credit with urijah faber's gym or at least had bad credit and those are the type of gyms she should be training at, not with bryan caraway who is an idiot.

I know some people might state that with what goes outside of the octagon will have no bearing on the fight but it does because because mental character in a fight can be just as important as the obvious physical part. And when it comes to the mental aspect of this match, i give the nod to zingano, HUGE. If you don't think tate's ass is as flat as a pancake, it will be after the fight is over because cat zingano is going to dominate on top position.

i also agree with you on the ronda rousey match but i don't want to talk much about that fight right now just because miesha tate is the task at hand and i want to make a lot of money betting against her on saturday. sideloaded, it's important for you to understand why someone might bash you for not thinking highly of ronda rousey.

rousey has been training with armenians for a very long time and it's important to understand what armenian culture is about. They are people with a lot of pride and take things very very personal if someone goes against their people. I know ronda rousey is not armenian but all those guys there have taken her under their wings as if she is one of their own, including manny gamburyan. It's very hard to explain but the nick diaz/nate diaz culture are very similiar. They back their people 100% and overprotect so much that violence gets brought into the equation at times. So if you know all of this stuff ahead of time, this will increase your chances that you stay focused on your intelligent write ups instead of the thread getting flooded with the trollin' bullshit. The only thing that i need to see are things that apply to the fights at hand, not having to read someone calling you dumb because you said ronda rousey's striking is not respectable. Honestly if ronda rousey's striking was respectable, then they should offer their assessment as to why...but no need to call anyone dumb because then it becomes personal.

I say this because there is always a chance that ronda rousey will beat sara mcmann or cat zingano although i feel very very highly unlikely. It's not a 7 game series, and there is just so much on the line, to fight for the title, to be the opposing coach on TUF, if cat zingano was injured? Guarantee you that she will fight injured but then not be able to win the fight, so we'll see.

Stopped reading here. Kid didn't do his due diligence.




... Still wouldn't hit. Elbows too mangled.

[sideloaded]

sideloaded, i just signed on to this forum because i came across your thread on a google search on tate and zingano fight odds, read your original post and realized that it was very deep and intelligent. It was also said during the chat on vipbox during the invicta fights that there was a great mma forum on sbr so we'll see.

i've been searching for the miesha tate/cat zingano odds since the fight was announced. I've been hoping that zingano has been as close to even money as much as possible just because everyone knows miesha tate a little too much and not enough about cat zingano. Just watching the zingano/barb honchak fight shows you how much of a grinder that cat zingano is. I've also watched the grappling match online between tate and sara mcmann and miesha tate is not on mcmann or zingano's level. Miesha tate is too lackluster, it shows in her fights and she spends too much time on twitter. Her fight camps are also very questionable, especially when she took a "vacation" to be in japan for her boyfriends fight and then staying the following week to train with roxanne modaferi and other japanese fighters? I'm sorry but no one who trains in japan makes it in the ufc. The top fighters from japan who have had some success in the ufc (there aren't many outside of yushin okami) have trained extensively in the U.S.

Miesha tate isn't even an intelligent corner person. Did you hear what she said after 2 rounds to bryan caraway? she told him to coast in the 3rd round because he had the first 2 rounds in the bag and then had the audacity to go back on twitter, ask dana white to give caraway his win bonus due to the judges being incompetent. I mean if you watched her press conference after the kedzie fight, before the ufc women's division was even announced, you can just tell that her mind was not into mma, but for this fight of course she's in it with a lot on the line but she is not a dedicated fighter. I believe she still has bad credit with urijah faber's gym or at least had bad credit and those are the type of gyms she should be training at, not with bryan caraway who is an idiot.

I know some people might state that with what goes outside of the octagon will have no bearing on the fight but it does because because mental character in a fight can be just as important as the obvious physical part. And when it comes to the mental aspect of this match, i give the nod to zingano, HUGE. If you don't think tate's ass is as flat as a pancake, it will be after the fight is over because cat zingano is going to dominate on top position.

i also agree with you on the ronda rousey match but i don't want to talk much about that fight right now just because miesha tate is the task at hand and i want to make a lot of money betting against her on saturday. sideloaded, it's important for you to understand why someone might bash you for not thinking highly of ronda rousey.

rousey has been training with armenians for a very long time and it's important to understand what armenian culture is about. They are people with a lot of pride and take things very very personal if someone goes against their people. I know ronda rousey is not armenian but all those guys there have taken her under their wings as if she is one of their own, including manny gamburyan. It's very hard to explain but the nick diaz/nate diaz culture are very similiar. They back their people 100% and overprotect so much that violence gets brought into the equation at times. So if you know all of this stuff ahead of time, this will increase your chances that you stay focused on your intelligent write ups instead of the thread getting flooded with the trollin' bullshit. The only thing that i need to see are things that apply to the fights at hand, not having to read someone calling you dumb because you said ronda rousey's striking is not respectable. Honestly if ronda rousey's striking was respectable, then they should offer their assessment as to why...but no need to call anyone dumb because then it becomes personal.

I say this because there is always a chance that ronda rousey will beat sara mcmann or cat zingano although i feel very very highly unlikely. It's not a 7 game series, and there is just so much on the line, to fight for the title, to be the opposing coach on TUF, if cat zingano was injured? Guarantee you that she will fight injured but then not be able to win the fight, so we'll see.

gabe is armenian watch out for him