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  • fightbetter
    SBR Rookie
    • 01-16-13
    • 44

    #1
    All fights thread?
    Wassupp people. New member and also new better
    I started last weekend with parlaying all the favorites to win and Marquardt screwed me
    This weekend I got Rothwell and khabib parlayed.
    Anyways signed up here so I can get some input from everybody here, Ive been lurking for the past week but i decided to make an account.
    Seems like theres alot of knowledgeable betters here also so lets make some money!
  • MD
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-31-12
    • 9728

    #2
    Hey buddy, here's some tips. First of all, handicapping MMA is pointless. There's a guy on this board who has it down to a science, so you should just tail all of his picks. Look for "JSanford".

    In seriousness, try to stay away from parlays at first. Parlays can be difficult stuff even for experienced bettors. Study tape, dedicate a decent amount of time and focus on straight bets for now.
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    • Sacrelicious
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-29-12
      • 5984

      #3
      Originally posted by fightbetter
      Wassupp people. New member and also new better
      I started last weekend with parlaying all the favorites to win and Marquardt screwed me
      This weekend I got Rothwell and khabib parlayed.
      Anyways signed up here so I can get some input from everybody here, Ive been lurking for the past week but i decided to make an account.
      Seems like theres alot of knowledgeable betters here also so lets make some money!
      You'd be best to stop while you are still ahead.

      Also, get into rooster analysis and prognostication.
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      • fightbetter
        SBR Rookie
        • 01-16-13
        • 44

        #4
        I totally forgot I even. posted this up but as for the feedback guys. MD thanks for your serious input.But what about 2 fight parlays better then single bets If you have big favorites?


        ...and as for you Sac....come on man. Really? So much for a warm welcome
        .do you that to all new members?
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        • Sacrelicious
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-29-12
          • 5984

          #5
          I'm less then a year into my MMA betting, my 2 fight parlays have been big time hit and miss. The next one I will likely make is on GSP and DC.

          And I was not being sarcastic, seriously, quit while you are ahead, this is not easy, and it can make watching the fights a lot less enjoyable unless your disciplined enough to be rolled properly and bet according to your roll to account for variance.

          And rooster analysis IS crucial.
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          • fightbetter
            SBR Rookie
            • 01-16-13
            • 44

            #6
            ...and also real quick i signed up at topbet. Are they a reliable site? I was all set ready to go for bovada then i got impatient because they wanted a pic of my id, but then I made.an account for topbet.
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            • MD
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-31-12
              • 9728

              #7
              Originally posted by fightbetter
              I totally forgot I even. posted this up but as for the feedback guys. MD thanks for your serious input.But what about 2 fight parlays better then single bets If you have big favorites?


              ...and as for you Sac....come on man. Really? So much for a warm welcome
              .do you that to all new members?
              Sacrelicious is just making a joke; hog analysis is a huge part of the discussion on this forum, as you probably noticed. This forum has an odd sense of humour; roll with it and you'll fit in well.

              As for the idea that parlays with big favourites are better than straight bets, that is completely untrue. There should be no effective difference in their profitability.
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              • fightbetter
                SBR Rookie
                • 01-16-13
                • 44

                #8
                Rooster? Like the animal rooster?. And No way jose. Im winning some money this year on some fights. Not saying Im miss cleo but just feel theres money in MMA betting. I dont gamble at casinos anymore.so this is a safer route
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                • Sacrelicious
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-29-12
                  • 5984

                  #9
                  Yeah man, avoid parlays for a while, its tricky territory to tread. I dont ever bet anything larger then 3 teamers at a small to risk amount, 2/3 will hit and then the last will crash it. Upon analysis, I would have made significantly more if I just bet everyone straight up.
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                  • MD
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-31-12
                    • 9728

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fightbetter
                    Rooster? Like the animal rooster?
                    Depends on who you're talking about. Wannabet tells me Kongo's is beast-like.
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                    • fightbetter
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 01-16-13
                      • 44

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MD
                      Sacrelicious is just making a joke; hog analysis is a huge part of the discussion on this forum, as you probably noticed. This forum has an odd sense of humour; roll with it and you'll fit in well.

                      As for the idea that parlays with big favourites are better than straight bets, that is completely untrue. There should be no effective difference in their profitability.
                      Hah. Ight ill know for next time regarding roosters.
                      anyways though, im thinking of parlaying GSP Jones and rousey. 300 dollars...not a good bet or?
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                      • fightbetter
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 01-16-13
                        • 44

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sacrelicious
                        Yeah man, avoid parlays for a while, its tricky territory to tread. I dont ever bet anything larger then 3 teamers at a small to risk amount, 2/3 will hit and then the last will crash it. Upon analysis, I would have made significantly more if I just bet everyone straight up.
                        Ya i hear you man.
                        This is how I look at Betting on MMA to me.

                        Its two guys fighting. Thats it
                        No kickers missing field goals. No buzzer beaters.

                        2 skilled fighters that have strengtg.and weaknesses when compared to there opponent.

                        I think being a educated fight fan over an educated football fan theres more to win.in MMA
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                        • NunyaBidness
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-26-09
                          • 9345

                          #13
                          Originally posted by fightbetter
                          Ya i hear you man.
                          This is how I look at Betting on MMA to me.

                          Its two guys fighting. Thats it
                          No kickers missing field goals. No buzzer beaters.

                          2 skilled fighters that have strengtg.and weaknesses when compared to there opponent.

                          I think being a educated fight fan over an educated football fan theres more to win.in MMA
                          Of all the factors that matter in beating MMA, being an educated fight fan is at the bottom of the list.

                          I could teach a 12 year old to beat this game while never watching a single fight.
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                          • fightbetter
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 01-16-13
                            • 44

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                            Of all the factors that matter in beating MMA, being an educated fight fan is at the bottom of the list.

                            I could teach a 12 year old to beat this game while never watching a single fight.
                            Oh ya? Shit, sounds like you have a lot to*teach me then...
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                            • NunyaBidness
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-26-09
                              • 9345

                              #15
                              Sorry, only accepting 12 year olds at this time.
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                              • Sacrelicious
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-29-12
                                • 5984

                                #16
                                Originally posted by fightbetter
                                Hah. Ight ill know for next time regarding roosters.
                                anyways though, im thinking of parlaying GSP Jones and rousey. 300 dollars...not a good bet or?
                                Odd play.

                                How much value do Jones and Rousey actually add to this parlay?

                                GSP is a solid play becuase the line is, in my opinion, excellent. I'd only bet 300 on him if you were rolled for several grand though.

                                Why parlay him with 2 plays that add so little value to your play?
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                                • Sacrelicious
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-29-12
                                  • 5984

                                  #17
                                  I'll give the odds that this guy is a troll at -300 to +260 that he is not.

                                  I'll be taking wagers with a maximum cap of 3.27 SBR points.
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                                  • fightbetter
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 01-16-13
                                    • 44

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                    Sorry, only accepting 12 year olds at this time.
                                    Hah as much as that doesn't sound right*...id still be open ears.. Just don't get any crazy ideas about my 10 year old nephew
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                                    • fightbetter
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 01-16-13
                                      • 44

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Sacrelicious
                                      Odd play.

                                      How much value do Jones and Rousey actually add to this parlay?

                                      GSP is a solid play becuase the line is, in my opinion, excellent. I'd only bet 300 on him if you were rolled for several grand though.

                                      Why parlay him with 2 plays that add so little value to your play?
                                      I figured
                                      GSp parlayed with rousey ans Jones I would make more more money
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                                      • fightbetter
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 01-16-13
                                        • 44

                                        #20
                                        ...and im not a troll fellow.
                                        Future will tell.
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                                        • Sacrelicious
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-29-12
                                          • 5984

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by fightbetter
                                          I figured
                                          GSp parlayed with rousey ans Jones I would make more more money
                                          Yeah but what if liz carmouche scored a freak knockout or Chael manages to pin jon jones on his ass for five rounds? Not saying either are THAT likely to happen, but how much value are both of those risks really adding to your bet and how much do you stand to lose by each of them happening that will kill all the money you put on GSP? 20 bucks extra winnings to kill an investment of 300?
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                                          • fightbetter
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 01-16-13
                                            • 44

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Sacrelicious
                                            Yeah but what if liz carmouche scored a freak knockout or Chael manages to pin jon jones on his ass for five rounds? Not saying either are THAT likely to happen, but how much value are both of those risks really adding to your bet and how much do you stand to lose by each of them happening that will kill all the money you put on GSP? 20 bucks extra winnings to kill an investment of 300?
                                            Rousey gsp and jones parlayed would be -200. Thats.not good odds for 3 heavy favorites?
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                                            • Sacrelicious
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-29-12
                                              • 5984

                                              #23
                                              Yes but I repeat my question, how much extra value do each the addition of Rousey and JJ add to your bet that they take away from your initial investment on GSP?

                                              This seems like an excellent idea until you win 3 and then lose 1 and realize that your net and the end of the day is in the red.
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                                              • NunyaBidness
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-26-09
                                                • 9345

                                                #24
                                                Parlaying those 3 may or may not be a mistake, but Sacre's reasons aren't the right ones.

                                                Parlays aren't magic.

                                                If there is value on all three of those lines individually, there is value in the parlay. If there is not value in those lines individually there is not value in the parlay.
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                                                • Sacrelicious
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-29-12
                                                  • 5984

                                                  #25
                                                  I've just had my ass busted by several parlays like this over the last year before I started to figure out what I was doing so wrong.

                                                  Honestly, the Jones lines and Rousey lines are peculiar at best. Sure, they're both mismatches, but while lines like GSP and Cormier actually have value, the Jones and Rousey lines add little with the potential of crushing your investment.
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                                                  • fightbetter
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 01-16-13
                                                    • 44

                                                    #26
                                                    Ya i see what your saying. Your saying the risk isnt worth the reward stick to GSP at -375 straight rather then taking tbe risk of rousey nd jones losing now you lost your parlay no matter what you think is gauranteed(rousey and jones)
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                                                    • fightbetter
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 01-16-13
                                                      • 44

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                      Parlaying those 3 may or may not be a mistake, but Sacre's reasons aren't the right ones.

                                                      Parlays aren't magic.

                                                      If there is value on all three of those lines individually, there is value in the parlay. If there is not value in those lines individually there is not value in the parlay.
                                                      So u dnt see value in Jones and Rousey?
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                                                      • Sacrelicious
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 11-29-12
                                                        • 5984

                                                        #28


                                                        Anyone still want to take my bet?
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                                                        • fightbetter
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 01-16-13
                                                          • 44

                                                          #29
                                                          $¢rew you man. Watch im gonna be makin some serious loot in the nxt few months
                                                          Good luck to ya
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                                                          • NunyaBidness
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 07-26-09
                                                            • 9345

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by fightbetter
                                                            So u dnt see value in Jones and Rousey?
                                                            I don't even know who they are.
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                                                            • BIGDAY
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 02-17-10
                                                              • 48245

                                                              #31
                                                              WoooooHooooooooooo!!!

                                                              Fresh Meat!!

                                                              I like the term POUND...
                                                              *no homo
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                                                              • Dwil125
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-08-12
                                                                • 2048

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Sacrelicious
                                                                You'd be best to stop while you are still ahead.

                                                                Also, get into rooster analysis and prognostication.
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                                                                • fightbetter
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 01-16-13
                                                                  • 44

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                  I don't even know who they are.
                                                                  Me either
                                                                  I thought this was nfl section
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                                                                  • Sacrelicious
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-29-12
                                                                    • 5984

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by fightbetter
                                                                    Ya i see what your saying. Your saying the risk isnt worth the reward stick to GSP at -375 straight rather then taking tbe risk of rousey nd jones losing now you lost your parlay no matter what you think is gauranteed(rousey and jones)
                                                                    No thats not what I am saying at all.

                                                                    My insights are cryptic and esoteric, perhaps even enigmatic. You are taking my sayings far too literally.

                                                                    I'm like Moses except fatter and with more of a neck beard.
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                                                                    • fightbetter
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 01-16-13
                                                                      • 44

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Lol oh please.
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