John Morrison 2012 MLB Thread

[Andy3568]

News Flash. I finally got a response from Morrison on the question I asked him the other day. It had to do with him calling the Yankees play official when the rpi was out of range. Here was his response:

Hi James
During this early part of the MLB season, zhe RPI ratings cannot be fully trusted because not enough games have been played to really be able to determine an accurate measure of RPI over all the teams across the board. I take each game on a case by case basis during this early part of the season. My calculations tell me that if more games are to be played this season that the Yankees and Rays would have similar RPI's that would fit into the filter of the system

Best regards
John Morrison, PhD


So I can live with that explanation. Especially because the rpi is not dependable early in the season. If any of you followed it, it doesn't make sense early on. I know that the ATL/NYM series was a good play and also the NYY/TAM series was good also but the rpi was unable to adjust because of the short period of time involved. I guess we'll have to leave those early plays up to the "champ" to decide. The only thing that bothers me is that if they would have lost he would have disqualified them. As far as recording them I can go back and adjust the records but I think I'll wait for some of you to chime in and let me know what you think.

P.S. Just got home late from work and I'm leaving early in the morning for Arizona. I'll make a quick post on the next system plays but the rpi and lines might be a little off. I'll be back home tomorrow night and get everything caught up.

I think it's a B.S. explanation from Morrison. Anyone can bet on games they "think" will win. I have no problem with that. But he's calling it an official system bet, which means it meets certain criteria... except it doesn't. And like you said, he will conveniently wipe one of those off the record if it loses. That's why I'd rather judge his systems by how you track them than by his own claims.

[hagball52]

I think it's a B.S. explanation from Morrison. Anyone can bet on games they "think" will win. I have no problem with that. But he's calling it an official system bet, which means it meets certain criteria... except it doesn't. And like you said, he will conveniently wipe one of those off the record if it loses. That's why I'd rather judge his systems by how you track them than by his own claims.

Thank you for your input. The more time I've had to think about it, I agree with you. He is conveniently changing his own rules to add wins and has an advantage of disqualifying it a loss by going back to his rules. Typical Morrison, the one we've all grown to loathe. For now we'll keep the record as is.

[DustyDiamond]

JM MLB System
2012 Official season series record 2-0 (v1) ( 1 series pending)
(A) 1-2
(B) 1-0
(C) 0-0
V2 plays 0-0
V3 system 0-0
Unofficial series 5-0
(A) 3-2
(B) 2-0
(C) 0-0
V2 plays 2-0

Next Plays
Official
05/11/2012 San Francisco (.487) @ Arizona (.486) M/L (A) LOSS

*Unofficial*
05/11/2012 Miami (.495) v NY Mets (.527) M/L (A) WIN

Next Plays
Official
05/12/2012 San Francisco (.480) @ Arizona (.491) Alt. R/L (B)*

V3
05/12/2012 NY Mets (.527) @ Miami (.501)

Upcoming Plays
05/16/2012 San Diego v LA Dodgers (2 gm. set, monitor only)
05/21/2012 Boston @ Baltimore
05/24/2012 San Francisco @ Miami

* At the time of this post SFO is a -110 favorite.

Notes: Dang! Long day yesterday driving to Arizona and back. It was good to get at least one win yesterday even in the bottom of the 9th. I like the Giants chances today. You all know how I feel about alternate run lines. Fortunately we haven't had to go to a (C) bet this year. Let's hope it stays that way. Not sure what to do about scoring the ATL/NYM and NYY/TAM series. I have them as unofficial and Morrison has them as official. Any thoughts? GL all

P.S. I did not mention yesterday that the MIA/NYM series was a possible V3 because I thought the rpi would be out of range if MIA won. Well Miami won and the rpi barely qualifies it as a play so I posted it. Me personally, I'm probably going to pass on this play because I don't like the pitching match ups for the 2 games involved and if MIA wins today the rpi will be off. Play it at your own risk. GL

When you say Alternate, are you saying we should play this at -1? Sorry for the noob question

[alexknyc]

When you say Alternate, are you saying we should play this at -1? Sorry for the noob question

No, at +1.5 RL.

[NZT-48]

I totally agree with u....I was with u on the thread back in the day if you remember......also dont forget the big one which I believe did happen last yr where one of the plays started in an entirely different team in the middle of the system play??.....like it was supposed to be a B bet and they started playing another team??....and then he said it was a winner or some such stuff if you remember that?.....Id have to look it up

Yeah, basically he is saying I'll make the rules as I go. You know if a series loses he will treat it as a no play. He's done that in the past. Just look at the BOS/NYY series last season. He sent out all 3 plays as official and then came back and disqualified it because one of the teams was in the top 2 of the rpi. Just beware. Today for instance the rpi is changing on the SFO/ARI series enough where if SFO loses today the rpi could drop out of range so if SFO gets swept he will not call it an official loss.

[NZT-48]

yeah your abolsutely right hag.....just keep posting the right way to play the plays instead of the JM BS of lets change on how I feel or has we go.....unreal this guy but hes been doing that since around 2009....before that he wasnt that bad with his nonsense.....it only started to happen more when he released more versions to his systems and they lost a few times so he freaked out and scrambled to give his subscribers some BS answers is all

Thank you for your input. The more time I've had to think about it, I agree with you. He is conveniently changing his own rules to add wins and has an advantage of disqualifying it a loss by going back to his rules. Typical Morrison, the one we've all grown to loathe. For now we'll keep the record as is.

[DustyDiamond]

No, at +1.5 RL.

Hmmm, where did people find +1.5 on SF?

[alexknyc]

Hmmm, where did people find +1.5 on SF?

On the alternate run line.

[hagball52]

I totally agree with u....I was with u on the thread back in the day if you remember......also dont forget the big one which I believe did happen last yr where one of the plays started in an entirely different team in the middle of the system play??.....like it was supposed to be a B bet and they started playing another team??....and then he said it was a winner or some such stuff if you remember that?.....Id have to look it up

It was Aug. 27th, 2010. It was the LA Angels v Baltimore. LAA lost the first game (A) bet. The next day, which should be the (B) bet, Morrison send out an email as an (A) bet on LAA. They lose that one and the next one. Series over right. No. LAA goes to Seattle for their next game and Morrison sends it out as a (C) bet which LAA wins and Morrison calls it an easy as pie winner. I flipped out over that one. Morrison was officially put on my shit list after that.

[hagball52]

When you say Alternate, are you saying we should play this at -1? Sorry for the noob question

I will post +1.5 Alt. run line next time so there is no confusion. If you are not betting offshore you can't get that, at least not in Vegas where I live.

Alexknyc, thanks for your help.

[NZT-48]

LOL!!! yeah glad u remembered that one too I recalled not many on that years thread got on that one and pointed it out....but I think me and you may have brought it up in the forum it was completely insane to say the least so yeah.....

the line for the Giants game has moved down even more I guess I will take the ML like most on here but if the alt line wins then u know it sucks a ss but whatever.....its like in the NBA system if they are more then -3 favorite then u are supposed to play it on the ML which sometimes can be insane and I think in the last 9 yrs in the NBA that helped u avoid a loss I think maybe once?....not 100% sure on that one maybe someone can comment on that one....

It was Aug. 27th, 2010. It was the LA Angels v Baltimore. LAA lost the first game (A) bet. The next day, which should be the (B) bet, Morrison send out an email as an (A) bet on LAA. They lose that one and the next one. Series over right. No. LAA goes to Seattle for their next game and Morrison sends it out as a (C) bet which LAA wins and Morrison calls it an easy as pie winner. I flipped out over that one. Morrison was officially put on my shit list after that.

[bauerranch]

Since we are telling JM stories. I never got the email from him yesterday about a B bet. However, he will be beating his chest on how great he is doing. Thanks for everyones help and lets keep rolling along.

I hope everyday we just save one person from sending him any money.

[rkelly110]

SF Winner! I waited like NZT-48 and took the ML. Too much juice on the Alt RL.

His previous e-mail stated he was going to be out of town, which is why no e-mails.

Yeah, if it wasn't for hagballs unrelenting attention to detail, we would be missing
a lot of plays, because of JM's greediness. Thanks Jim!

[Brundle99]

JM doesn't want people to win with his system despite what he says, he is in cahoots with several bookies... For example if you sign up at BetUS via his links, when you sign in and look at the Lines they are higher than if you signed up alone.

He will make his money from your Loses and people who buy his ever-changing systems. There's so many now!

He bends the rules to his advantage when a team loses he finds a way to either say it wasn't official or it didn't meet his criteria.

As far as the Alt Runline is concerned, it's advisable to not use it because the juice makes it a lot riskier, and why would you risk more money than you are comfortable doing?.

Just my two cents.

GL for the next Bets!

[hagball52]

JM MLB System
2012 Official season series record 3-0 (v1)
(A) 1-2
(B) 2-0
(C) 0-0
V2 plays 0-0
V3 system 1-0
Unofficial series 5-0
(A) 3-2
(B) 2-0
(C) 0-0
V2 plays 2-0

Official
05/12/2012 San Francisco (.480) @ Arizona (.491) Alt. R/L / M/L (B) WIN

V3
05/12/2012 NY Mets (.527) @ Miami (.501) WIN

Upcoming Plays
05/16/2012 San Diego v LA Dodgers (2 gm. set, monitor only)
05/21/2012 Boston @ Baltimore
05/24/2012 San Francisco @ Miami

Notes: I hope you ignored me on my feelings about the V3 play and bet it. Turned out to be a pretty easy win. Thanks for all of your input everyone. We'll keep th JM record as is. If he would take the losses as official when he calls a play official that isn't that would be one thing. But we know that isn't true. There are 5 possible sweeps today. Will update everything tomorrow. GL all

[hagball52]

Out of 5 possible sweeps today there were 2.
05/28 STL @ ATL
06/01 COL v LAD

I will post the complete list tomorrow.

[Nino7]

Hi,did anyone backtest the JM MLB system and is it winner on the longrun??I know that if u guys are running this tread the answer must be YES it is winner on the long run but i wish i had few figures

Ty

[hagball52]

JM MLB System
2012 Official season series record 3-0 (v1)
(A) 1-2
(B) 2-0
(C) 0-0
V2 plays 0-0
V3 system 1-0
Unofficial series 5-0
(A) 3-2
(B) 2-0
(C) 0-0
V2 plays 2-0

Next Plays
05/16/2012 San Diego v LA Dodgers (2 gm. set, monitor only)
05/21/2012 Boston @ Baltimore

Upcoming Plays
05/24/2012 San Francisco @ Miami
05/28/2012 Boston v Detoit
05/28/2012 Toronto v Baltimore
05/28/2012 Philadelphia @ NY Mets
05/28/2012 St. Louis @ Atlanta

Notes: Not much going on until next Monday. Not even much to keep track of in the way of sweeps. The next two series are all 2 game sets and then interleague starts on Friday. Then we get real busy at the end of the month. GL all

[hagball52]

Here's everything so far.

JM Upcoming plays

04/16 ATL v NYM Win (B) 04/17 U v2
04/24 KAN @ CLE Win (A) U
04/30 BAL @ NYY Win (A) O
04/30 KAN @ DET Cancelled (rain)
05/07 DET @ SEA Win (B) 05/08 O
05/07 MIN v LAA Win (B) 05/08 U v2
05/08 NYY v TAM Win (A) U
05/11 SFO @ ARI Win (B) 05/12 O
05/11 MIA v NYM Win (A) U
05/16 SDG v LAD 2 gm
05/21 BOS @ BAL
05/24 SFO @ MIA
05/28 BOS v DET
05/28 TOR v BAL
05/28 PHI @ NYM
05/28 STL @ ATL
06/01 SEA @ CHW
06/01 COL v LAD
07/02 KAN @ TOR
07/06 MIN @ TEX
07/16 MIN v BAL
07/17 CHC v MIA
07/20 SEA @ TAM
07/27 LAA v TAM
07/27 SDG @ MIA
08/02 MIN @ BOS
08/13 PIT v LAD
08/14 ARI @ STL
08/24 NYM v HOU
09/03 COL @ ATL
09/10 MIL v ATL
09/18 WAS v LAD

V3 Plays
05/12 MYM @ MIA Win (A)

As this list gets longer I'll probably condense it and separate the completed series form the upcoming and then post them separately so as not to take up so much space.

[Brundle99]

Sorry for the long post , just thought some of you might wanna read an email I just got from JM.

Kyle,

First, cheer with me as we reeled in yet another easy [B] bet win
on san Francisco a couple days ago. The unofficial bet on Miami
cashed in as well, giving us an undefeated winning run so far on
all of our system bets, including all of the unofficial wagers! I
fully expect us to continue to go 100% undefeated this season!

In the meantime, you've been missing out on a fortune of winnings
because you haven't been betting along on my daily picks at The
Champ Selections yet Kyle!

I opened up The Champ Selections a year ago, but I had to quickly
shut down the site and close off sign-ups for new memberships
because of the fact that my picks were too good, and I was banking
in too much money betting than to be selling memberships.

Ever since then, the amount of requests I've had from members of
Sports Betting Champ to open up my daily picks service again at The
Champ Selections has been absolutely overwhelming. Finally, after
much thoughts an deliberation, I will open up my elite daily picks
service at The Champ Selections to you if you take action now.

You see Kyle, becoming a member of The Champ Selections
is a life-changing event. I have inside info. You bet on my picks,
and you'll make money. It's that simple.

I have created more millionaires with The Champ Selections than one
can imagine. My picks are so good, I don't need to sell them. I've
stopped taking in any orders on the website for a long time now,
and I never thought I would open up the doors again.

My Sports Betting Champ systems have been on an absolutely
incredible winning run for years, but in reality, The Champ
Selections is where the elite money is made.

I release several picks every day to my Champ Selections members.
There can be a few or many depending on what my inside sources of
info tell me. One thing though is certain: You always end up winning.

See my last 40 days of picks at: www.sportsbettingchamp.com/tcs/results.htm

Why do you always end up winning? It's because I have INSIDE INFO.
Every day that you're not betting on my picks, you're losing money
Kyle. Remember, I have inside info. Follow my selections, and
you'll make money. It's that simple! The proof is right in front of you!

--------------------------------------------------
To secure your VIP membership to The Champ Selections right now, go to:

https://www.SportsBettingChamp.com/tcs

Remember, The Champ Selections is truly where the elite money is made.
I have inside info. Bet on my picks, and you will make money!
--------------------------------------------------

Just how incredible are my picks at Champ Selections? Consider this:

- I'm 70-34 in the last 40 days of The Champ Selections.

- Only 6 losing days out of 40 days of picks!

- My highest rated bet of the day won 32 out of 40 times!

- I've had 11 straight winning days, and still counting!

Remember, TheChampSelections.com is still shut down from all new
orders from the public! I am sending you this private offer to join
my service because you're a loyal customer who can use some extra cash

All the best,
John Morrison, PhD

P.S. Remember, I have INSIDE INFO. Bet on my daily Champ Selections
picks, and you will make money. It's that simple!

P.P.S. The Champ Selections is the most supreme membership I've
ever offered! This is where the true, elite money has always been
made. You can literally make back your investment 100x over in 1
day of betting on my personal picks!

P.P.P.S. How accurate are my picks? Just check out my last 40
days of selections at: www.sportsbettingchamp.com/tcs/results.htm

[hagball52]

Yuk,yuk, he's up to his old tricks again. He was probably on a long losing streak since we last heard form him. He's had a good run lately and now he's trying to reel in a few suckers. If you all remember, 2 years ago I had purchased his "champ selections" and posted all his plays. It turned out to be a good fade. Don't buy into this scammer.

[adidas-b 88]

Don't do it!! I bought the champ selections last year and we did a test in this forum and it was wack! Waste of money... Stick to his JM mlb and nba systems.

Sorry for the long post , just thought some of you might wanna read an email I just got from JM.

Kyle,

First, cheer with me as we reeled in yet another easy [B] bet win
on san Francisco a couple days ago. The unofficial bet on Miami
cashed in as well, giving us an undefeated winning run so far on
all of our system bets, including all of the unofficial wagers! I
fully expect us to continue to go 100% undefeated this season!

In the meantime, you've been missing out on a fortune of winnings
because you haven't been betting along on my daily picks at The
Champ Selections yet Kyle!

I opened up The Champ Selections a year ago, but I had to quickly
shut down the site and close off sign-ups for new memberships
because of the fact that my picks were too good, and I was banking
in too much money betting than to be selling memberships.

Ever since then, the amount of requests I've had from members of
Sports Betting Champ to open up my daily picks service again at The
Champ Selections has been absolutely overwhelming. Finally, after
much thoughts an deliberation, I will open up my elite daily picks
service at The Champ Selections to you if you take action now.

You see Kyle, becoming a member of The Champ Selections
is a life-changing event. I have inside info. You bet on my picks,
and you'll make money. It's that simple.

I have created more millionaires with The Champ Selections than one
can imagine. My picks are so good, I don't need to sell them. I've
stopped taking in any orders on the website for a long time now,
and I never thought I would open up the doors again.

My Sports Betting Champ systems have been on an absolutely
incredible winning run for years, but in reality, The Champ
Selections is where the elite money is made.

I release several picks every day to my Champ Selections members.
There can be a few or many depending on what my inside sources of
info tell me. One thing though is certain: You always end up winning.

See my last 40 days of picks at: www.sportsbettingchamp.com/tcs/results.htm

Why do you always end up winning? It's because I have INSIDE INFO.
Every day that you're not betting on my picks, you're losing money
Kyle. Remember, I have inside info. Follow my selections, and
you'll make money. It's that simple! The proof is right in front of you!

--------------------------------------------------
To secure your VIP membership to The Champ Selections right now, go to:

www.SportsBettingChamp.com/tcs

Remember, The Champ Selections is truly where the elite money is made.
I have inside info. Bet on my picks, and you will make money!
--------------------------------------------------

Just how incredible are my picks at Champ Selections? Consider this:

- I'm 70-34 in the last 40 days of The Champ Selections.

- Only 6 losing days out of 40 days of picks!

- My highest rated bet of the day won 32 out of 40 times!

- I've had 11 straight winning days, and still counting!

Remember, TheChampSelections.com is still shut down from all new
orders from the public! I am sending you this private offer to join
my service because you're a loyal customer who can use some extra cash

All the best,
John Morrison, PhD

P.S. Remember, I have INSIDE INFO. Bet on my daily Champ Selections
picks, and you will make money. It's that simple!

P.P.S. The Champ Selections is the most supreme membership I've
ever offered! This is where the true, elite money has always been
made. You can literally make back your investment 100x over in 1
day of betting on my personal picks!

P.P.P.S. How accurate are my picks? Just check out my last 40
days of selections at: www.sportsbettingchamp.com/tcs/results.htm

[hagball52]

I see he dropped his price again. For awhile it was $2000 a month. Now it's back to $500 for a whole year. I also got the same email. It's good to know we are just a select few. It makes me feel special. LOL

[alexknyc]

I see he dropped his price again. For awhile it was $2000 a month. Now it's back to $500 for a whole year. I also got the same email. It's good to know we are just a select few. It makes me feel special. LOL

Wasn't it $2k/month + 10% of what you won? No wonder he stopped doing that, he would have owed money to people.

[hagball52]

Wasn't it $2k/month + 10% of what you won? No wonder he stopped doing that, he would have owed money to people.

That's right. I forgot about the 10%. Yes you are correct, he probably would have owed money.

[Nino7]

plz someone can confirm the JM MLB is long run winner for sure?

[RustedVegas]

plz someone can confirm the JM MLB is long run winner for sure?

For sure? Nope.

[hagball52]

plz someone can confirm the JM MLB is long run winner for sure?

It made money last season on official plays only. In 2010 it lost money on official plays (4 series losses) and I don't have any information beyond that. Someone else may be able to help but that's all I have.

[Andy3568]

plz someone can confirm the JM MLB is long run winner for sure?

Backtesting MLB systems is difficult, and this system is particularly difficult. You can find ML odds, but RL odds are hard to come by. On top of that, it's virtually impossible to figure out the RPI difference at the time of past games. I can tell you that 2010 was a major loser while 2011 was a winner, but two seasons is hardly enough to judge a system. The only thing for sure is you can't trust Morrison's claims.

[hagball52]

JM MLB System
2012 Official season series record 3-0 (v1)
(A) 1-2
(B) 2-0
(C) 0-0
V2 plays 0-0
V3 system 1-0
Unofficial series 5-0
(A) 3-2
(B) 2-0
(C) 0-0
V2 plays 2-0

**
05/16/2012 San Diego v LA Dodgers (2 gm. set, monitor only)

Next Plays
05/21/2012 Boston @ Baltimore

Upcoming Plays
05/24/2012 San Francisco @ Miami
05/28/2012 Boston v Detoit
05/28/2012 Toronto v Baltimore
05/28/2012 Philadelphia @ NY Mets
05/28/2012 St. Louis @ Atlanta

Notes: ** We are just tracking this play to see if the sweep continues. It does not qualify as a system play. If you choose to play it do so at your own risk. GL all

[Nino7]

ok thx guys..i had played this system in 2009 and it was winner also but i dunno about the long run so ill stick with on3

[hagball52]

JM MLB System
2012 Official season series record 3-0 (v1)
(A) 1-2
(B) 2-0
(C) 0-0
V2 plays 0-0
V3 system 1-0
Unofficial series 5-0
(A) 3-2
(B) 2-0
(C) 0-0
V2 plays 2-0

**
05/16/2012 San Diego v LA Dodgers (2 gm. set, monitor only) WIN

Next Plays
05/21/2012 Boston @ Baltimore

Upcoming Plays
05/24/2012 San Francisco @ Miami
05/28/2012 Boston v Detoit
05/28/2012 Toronto v Baltimore
05/28/2012 Philadelphia @ NY Mets
05/28/2012 St. Louis @ Atlanta

Notes:** SDG gets the win. So I will strike this series from the record. It no longer exists as a possibility for a system play. Nothing until Monday. Have a great weekend.

[hagball52]

ok thx guys..i had played this system in 2009 and it was winner also but i dunno about the long run so ill stick with on3

If you stick with the official plays and play them by the rules there is usually money to be made.

[bisturis]

Hey Hagball, you live in Vegas right? I will be there on Tuesday. Want to meet up? I can just drop by whatever casino you're at and say hi.

[hagball52]

Hey Hagball, you live in Vegas right? I will be there on Tuesday. Want to meet up? I can just drop by whatever casino you're at and say hi.

I pm'd you.