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  • Catchn_Picks
    SBR MVP
    • 09-02-11
    • 2984

    #7876
    Wow, wouldn't it be great if Balty pulls out this game? Could we catch this game?
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    • absolutkaos
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-29-11
      • 213

      #7877
      Originally posted by Catchn_Picks
      Wow, wouldn't it be great if Balty pulls out this game? Could we catch this game?
      Last edited by absolutkaos; 05-29-12, 09:21 PM. Reason: too late...
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      • SlickRick1382
        SBR MVP
        • 10-15-11
        • 3838

        #7878
        Tough Loss. Bases loaded top 7th and no runs come out of it. Too many runners stranded, two many errors... Should of been an easy cash....
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        • Smutbucket
          SBR MVP
          • 03-14-08
          • 3996

          #7879
          Originally posted by SlickRick1382
          Tough Loss. Bases loaded top 7th and no runs come out of it. Too many runners stranded, two many errors... Should of been an easy cash....
          Amen.
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          • WVU9494
            SBR Sharp
            • 11-14-11
            • 333

            #7880
            Haha, how can you possibly say that should of been an easy cash? It was 8-1 bro. It was a bad pick, quit sugar coating all the loses.
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            • taxe91
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 03-16-12
              • 610

              #7881
              Question for LTA, Redscot, anybody else for when you guys inevitably get here to discuss todays card:

              Ivan Nova is + money against Ervin Santana. Ivan Nova's K% is up and BB% is down from last year, his BABIP is over .350 and his SIERA is 2+ runs lower than his ERA. On the other end of the spectrum Ervin Santana's K% and BB% are moving in opposite directions to Nova's, and his SIERA is roughly where it should be (north of 4). It's a big public play, and Pujols and co. are starting to heat up so is that why the Yankees are outsiders here? There has to be more to it than home field advantage.

              edit: Did more digging to find that Granderson, Cano, Ibanez, Jeter, and A-Rod all have an OPS of over .900 against Santana. All with at least 30 AB's. Safe to say I'm leaning Yankees right now.
              Last edited by taxe91; 05-30-12, 02:36 AM.
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              • Kurtz
                SBR High Roller
                • 02-04-12
                • 182

                #7882
                Tigers are 0-8 in their last 8 vs- lefties.
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                • SMyC23
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 05-23-10
                  • 137

                  #7883
                  Id lead toward a potential over....Feel like either one of these guys can blow up at any time...Both teams bats are waking up...If only the yanks could drive in some guys when their in scoring position...I see this game being a toss up...And In my experience betting on Nova he is always giving up Home Runs and the angels score a ton of runs off the long ball...BOL with w.e you play
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                  • taxe91
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 03-16-12
                    • 610

                    #7884
                    Originally posted by SMyC23
                    Id lead toward a potential over....Feel like either one of these guys can blow up at any time...Both teams bats are waking up...If only the yanks could drive in some guys when their in scoring position...I see this game being a toss up...And In my experience betting on Nova he is always giving up Home Runs and the angels score a ton of runs off the long ball...BOL with w.e you play
                    Good point, Nova's already given up as many HR's this year as he did all of last year, and I feel like Pujols has hit a home run every time I've watched the Angels this week. Wonder if I'll end up having 2 plays on the same game for the first time this year.
                    Last edited by taxe91; 05-30-12, 06:25 AM.
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                    • SlickRick1382
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-15-11
                      • 3838

                      #7885
                      Originally posted by WVU9494
                      Haha, how can you possibly say that should of been an easy cash? It was 8-1 bro. It was a bad pick, quit sugar coating all the loses.
                      Orioles put up six runs total, not one. Left a ton of men stranded including bases loaded in the 7th. They also had 3 errors which lead to runs. If Arrieta pitched his game and wasn't completely off then how would it not of cashed?

                      Perhaps you didn't watch the game and just saw the box score. I watched the game ....
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                      • Love The Action
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-08-10
                        • 10952

                        #7886
                        Originally posted by WVU9494
                        Haha, how can you possibly say that should of been an easy cash? It was 8-1 bro. It was a bad pick, quit sugar coating all the loses.
                        1. More misspelling, improper grammar and misinformation from the alleged phd.

                        2. The final score was 8-6 not 8-1 with the only difference being two unearned runs allowed by an uncharacteristic 3 Baltimore errors.

                        3. It was not a "bad pick." I bet this play at +136 and it closed at +125 making it a very good pick because it beat the closer by more than ten cents (although a losing one in the end because of the aforementioned errors).

                        4. Good plays like yesterday can lose just like bad plays such as my cardinals -1RL wager on Monday can win. We cannot control the players on the field. All we can control is getting a +ev price consistently over a large sample because if you do that enough you will be a long term winning player. Therefore this was not a "bad" pick, it was a good pick that lost. Had the orioles closed at +146, then it would have been a bad pick regardless of outcome.
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                        • Love The Action
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-08-10
                          • 10952

                          #7887
                          Originally posted by taxe91
                          Question for LTA, Redscot, anybody else for when you guys inevitably get here to discuss todays card:

                          Ivan Nova is + money against Ervin Santana. Ivan Nova's K% is up and BB% is down from last year, his BABIP is over .350 and his SIERA is 2+ runs lower than his ERA. On the other end of the spectrum Ervin Santana's K% and BB% are moving in opposite directions to Nova's, and his SIERA is roughly where it should be (north of 4). It's a big public play, and Pujols and co. are starting to heat up so is that why the Yankees are outsiders here? There has to be more to it than home field advantage.

                          edit: Did more digging to find that Granderson, Cano, Ibanez, Jeter, and A-Rod all have an OPS of over .900 against Santana. All with at least 30 AB's. Safe to say I'm leaning Yankees right now.
                          Agreed. I lean to the yanks as well but I am getting a late start on the games because of work and still need to look at the game further. My model has this as a -105 for the NY though. GL
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                          • Love The Action
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-08-10
                            • 10952

                            #7888
                            MLB 2012 Regular Season 5/29/2012 Recap

                            1 - 2 = -3.12x


                            MLB 2012 Regular Season

                            121 - 114 - 15 = -0.29x

                            I historically hit close to 70% of my multiple unit plays but am a meager 1-4 on plays of 2x or more this season. That needs to change immediately. I have no regrets though as the orioles play was a good one, just a loser in the end because we wager on humans not robots and humans make mistakes such as three errors in one game. I thought the bigger surprise was Humber beating Shields because of one bad inning and the rays offense shutting down. Nothing we can do but continue to work hard and the results will come. Good luck on Wednesday.
                            Last edited by Love The Action; 05-30-12, 09:14 AM.
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                            • blumpkin
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 06-16-11
                              • 359

                              #7889
                              LTA just curious should yesterday have been -3.12 instead of -3?
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                              • Love The Action
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-08-10
                                • 10952

                                #7890
                                Originally posted by blumpkin
                                LTA just curious should yesterday have been -3.12 instead of -3?
                                Yep, thanks for the heads up...had the odds of plays 2 and 3 switched and didn't check my sheet. GL
                                Last edited by Love The Action; 05-30-12, 08:46 AM.
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                                • daddyv
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 10-05-10
                                  • 241

                                  #7891
                                  no plays today chief??? i have a parlay on texas n the heat tonight!! will check back later to see if you got anything...GL
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                                  • Vasco
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 03-16-12
                                    • 315

                                    #7892
                                    LTA, what do you think of the under in the Reds/Pirates game? Votto is out and Burnett has pitched surprisingly well. Do we back the O's again tonight at +129?
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                                    • Love The Action
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-08-10
                                      • 10952

                                      #7893
                                      Originally posted by Vasco
                                      LTA, what do you think of the under in the Reds/Pirates game? Votto is out and Burnett has pitched surprisingly well. Do we back the O's again tonight at +129?
                                      I lean to that under but not Balty. No reason to fade morrow in a bounce back spot. GL
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                                      • Love The Action
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-08-10
                                        • 10952

                                        #7894
                                        MLB 2012 Regular Season 5/30/2012

                                        Play #1

                                        Yankees (+102) 1.5x (Locked)


                                        As I mentioned before, I have the Yanks set at -105 giving us decent value at plus odds. I will back the better starting pitcher and the team looking to avoid the sweep by rolling with the Yankees for 1.5x. Good luck.
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                                        • Love The Action
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-08-10
                                          • 10952

                                          #7895
                                          Originally posted by Love The Action
                                          MLB 2012 Regular Season 5/30/2012

                                          Play #1

                                          Yankees (+102) 1.5x (Locked)


                                          As I mentioned before, I have the Yanks set at -105 giving us decent value at plus odds. I will back the better starting pitcher and the team looking to avoid the sweep by rolling with the Yankees for 1.5x. Good luck.

                                          Play #2

                                          Phillies/Mets under (7)(-105) 1x (Locked)

                                          Play #3

                                          Rockies -1RL (-114) 1x (Locked)

                                          Play #4

                                          Cardinals/Braves under (8.5)(-120) 1x (Locked)


                                          Still working on the card. Good luck.
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                                          • BeardedTaco
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 10-18-11
                                            • 647

                                            #7896
                                            cards/braves got steamed a couple of minutes before your post, not playable at u8 -115 correct?

                                            edit: nvm got a good number somewhere
                                            Last edited by BeardedTaco; 05-30-12, 05:27 PM.
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                                            • Vasco
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 03-16-12
                                              • 315

                                              #7897
                                              Like the plays so far, let's get it. Curious to see if you'll be fading Chien Ming Wang, maybe by playing Marlins on the run line. Dodgers with Kershaw on the run line is also intriguing...
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                                              • Love The Action
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-08-10
                                                • 10952

                                                #7898
                                                Originally posted by BeardedTaco
                                                cards/braves got steamed a couple of minutes before your post, not playable at u8 -115 correct?

                                                edit: u8,-110 now
                                                Nice.... Im pissed I didnt take it this morning at plus odds but didn't have the game fully capped at that time. I have this game set at 7.08 so 8 is playable at a decent price. You are correct -115 is unplayable but -110 is more palatable while anything less can be played without much debate. The Braves bats are struggling a tad, cards have a few bats missing, the wind is blowing in and we have a neutral ump. Good luck.
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                                                • Love The Action
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-08-10
                                                  • 10952

                                                  #7899
                                                  Originally posted by Vasco
                                                  Like the plays so far, let's get it. Curious to see if you'll be fading Chien Ming Wang, maybe by playing Marlins on the run line. Dodgers with Kershaw on the run line is also intriguing...
                                                  Probably laying off Marlins but I have been debating the dodgers all day. Everyone think that Kershaw will get rocked because of his history against brewers but I don't agree. My concern is the poor dodger bats which are starting to show their stripes a bit.

                                                  I would have played the tigers at +130 had i had the game capped this morning, although their lineup is pretty weak today.

                                                  What else?
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                                                  • Vasco
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 03-16-12
                                                    • 315

                                                    #7900
                                                    I think I'm gonna roll with that Pirates under that I was debating earlier. Cueto should dominate, so as long as AJ doesn't implode I think it has a good chance at cashing. Heavy juice on the under in the Giants/D-backs. With both pitchers struggling, I kinda like the over as crazy it seems. Probably won't play it, but interesting.
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                                                    • slikec
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-11-11
                                                      • 1032

                                                      #7901
                                                      Tigers odds are moving up curently +129 at pinny
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                                                      • Love The Action
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 11-08-10
                                                        • 10952

                                                        #7902
                                                        Originally posted by slikec
                                                        Tigers odds are moving up curently +129 at pinny
                                                        Yeah but will probably pass because of that lineup.
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                                                        • slikec
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-11-11
                                                          • 1032

                                                          #7903
                                                          Well i will play them for half a unit at +140 which i can get now cause you had a lean
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                                                          • Love The Action
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-08-10
                                                            • 10952

                                                            #7904
                                                            Originally posted by Vasco
                                                            I think I'm gonna roll with that Pirates under that I was debating earlier. Cueto should dominate, so as long as AJ doesn't implode I think it has a good chance at cashing. Heavy juice on the under in the Giants/D-backs. With both pitchers struggling, I kinda like the over as crazy it seems. Probably won't play it, but interesting.
                                                            I think that under is a good play. Might play it as well still but would like -110 or better. GL
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                                                            • hustlehard617
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 01-05-12
                                                              • 574

                                                              #7905
                                                              LTA do you have a write up on the Rockies
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                                                              • Catchn_Picks
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-02-11
                                                                • 2984

                                                                #7906
                                                                Texas, a -235 favorite down 16-0 at home in the 3rd inning.

                                                                Does anyone have a handicapping profile that can predict that?
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                                                                • Catchn_Picks
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-02-11
                                                                  • 2984

                                                                  #7907
                                                                  It is official....in my opinion, our losses on under bets are now outside the realm of statistical variance. Just pure brutality.
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                                                                  • Love The Action
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-08-10
                                                                    • 10952

                                                                    #7908
                                                                    Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                    MLB 2012 Regular Season 5/30/2012

                                                                    Play #1

                                                                    Yankees (+102) 1.5x and (+104) 0.50x (Locked)


                                                                    As I mentioned before, I have the Yanks set at -105 giving us decent value at plus odds. I will back the better starting pitcher and the team looking to avoid the sweep by rolling with the Yankees for 2x. Good luck.

                                                                    Play #2

                                                                    Phillies/Mets under (7)(-105) 1x (Locked)

                                                                    Play #3

                                                                    Rockies -1RL (-114) 1x (Locked)

                                                                    Play #4

                                                                    Cardinals/Braves under (8.5)(-120) 1x (Locked)


                                                                    Still working on the card. Good luck.
                                                                    Added 0.50x to Play #1. Correct units denoted above.

                                                                    Play #5

                                                                    Dodgers -1RL (+101) 1x (Locked)

                                                                    Sorry guys, just able to post now. Good luck.
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                                                                    • Love The Action
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-08-10
                                                                      • 10952

                                                                      #7909
                                                                      Originally posted by Catchn_Picks
                                                                      It is official....in my opinion, our losses on under bets are now outside the realm of statistical variance. Just pure brutality.
                                                                      I should have played my lean on Pit/Cincy under and at least we would have cashed one of them. I agree to some extent, but you will see these periods throughout the season when overs or under get hot. Right now, in the last seven days worth of games, we have seen 60.4% of all games go over and in the last thirty days, over 52% of all games have gone over. covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/trends/league/season7.html

                                                                      As a result, and as I mentioned the other day, the books will soon make an adjustment. Nonetheless, all this is cyclical. Some may say not to play unders when the overs are running hot, but I take the position that I just have to weather the storm and trust my model because of its proven long term success. As the advance numbers adjust for the offensive production, the calculations will adjust. You just never know when the next 7-0 day is around the corner, so you can't get rattled and start making radical moves like not playing any unders or fading normal plays or whatever.

                                                                      With all that said, however, the amount of bullpen meltdowns is getting crazy. I have not done any specific research, but it seems like bullpens have been horrible. Perhaps someone can check out fangraphs to compare league-wide bullpen numbers from the last couple seasons to this season (especially if you can compare monthly splits). I would venture to say the league-wide bullpen numbers for tERA, FIP, xFIP and SIERA are up while K%, K/9, K/BB, SwStr% and GB/FB are all down.
                                                                      Last edited by Love The Action; 05-30-12, 11:10 PM.
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                                                                      • Love The Action
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 11-08-10
                                                                        • 10952

                                                                        #7910
                                                                        MLB 2012 Regular Season 5/31/2012

                                                                        Play #1

                                                                        Astros ML (+112) 1x (Locked)

                                                                        May add to this in a bit. I have the Astros set at +102 and I am rolling with Houston for 1x. Good luck.
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