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  • ok15533
    SBR High Roller
    • 12-14-09
    • 220

    #4481
    so why does A bet on V3 against jm system
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    • h00dini
      Restricted User
      • 09-17-09
      • 659

      #4482
      Those padres better come in tonight or there's gonna be some pretty sad pissed off people in here.
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      • dogs1972
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-22-09
        • 509

        #4483
        Originally posted by stevex
        O'Sullivan

        Game is far from over, but O'Crappin just put us in a big hole. The beauty of this bet is just think of it as the 'A' bet in the V3 system.
        There's no beauty in a loss, regardless of it being an A B C or D.
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        • h00dini
          Restricted User
          • 09-17-09
          • 659

          #4484
          Does anybody here bet on sports for a living?
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          • J.M. Disciple
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-16-10
            • 5154

            #4485
            Originally posted by xanderxxx93
            JMD you system is very interesting . please share your results with us. and if you have time be more explicit about the way you should bet on your Over system, What do you do when you came from 7 games to 15? or from 15 to seven . or how do you put the numbers on each line after cleaning a line.?

            My system is not down pat since i barely started it. The way I tested it in the past was each line i cleared i instantly replaced it with a unit. I would then balance and average out all the lines at the end of the day.

            I'm currently trying to work out away to make it a bit more conservative with less variance. Of course this would mean less profit, but when I was testing this method even just a couple bad days, where you replace each cleared line with a unit, some of your bets can become very big.

            I have a 146 unit bankroll right now, but even then when your running so many lines the variance can become pretty big even with the labby. That is just my opinion. I'm still getting use to all the variance in sports betting.

            What am i going to start doing now thanks to "analyzer" is just betting the Unders instead of the Overs. Unders hit about 50.5% over the past 7 years, which make them more profitable then Overs.

            Basically my lines start with 1 unit each line by split in 2. So if your unit size is $10 your line is
            5 5
            5 5
            5 5

            If you win 1 and lose the other 2 your lines are:
            5 5 10
            5 5 10

            Then you average them out to
            6 6
            6 6
            6 6

            Until all the lines are clear. If you do not have enough #s left on your labby lines to make up for all the games, then you may add a unit. I know this system works, so i am not going to back test it any further because it is very tedious. I'm just going to start keeping track of it starting from today.

            I have crusher MLB, wallco Plu$, JM MLB, and Unders all on different excel sheets, so we will see how each system does this month. Right now i do not really have any results from betting unders to share. Basically studying labby methods though anything that wins 34% or more of the time is going to show a profit long run.

            I do not recommend playing blackjack, roulete, or even baccarate with it. I have tested the labby with each of these methods and because there is a table limit and online casinos are pretty RIGGED! it wont work.

            Baccarate has like a 48.9% winning % of hands so it could show short term profit. I did about 1,000 hands yesterday of this and i was up $200 at one point with a $1 unit size, but ended up losing it all back and gave up. Maybe if you ran like 20 lines with this it may work! I give up testing it though. Takes way too much time and i have failed trying to beat it too many times now.
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            • huser21
              SBR Rookie
              • 05-11-11
              • 11

              #4486
              Originally posted by h00dini
              Those padres better come in tonight or there's gonna be some pretty sad pissed off people in here.
              Good! Too many whiners acting like they are forced to make these plays. People trying to help out others and end up getting cut down for it? Reminds me of my crazy ex-wife.
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              • stevex
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 05-02-10
                • 5122

                #4487
                Not saying there is a "good" loss, but if the Twins do hold on to this lead will just come right back with the official V3 play tomorrow on the Royals.
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                • dlunc3
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-31-09
                  • 9129

                  #4488
                  lets get it tonight boys... gotta admit I vagina'd out a little... only bet the -1rl rather then the -1.5, and only bet about 1/2 of what I needed to bet on the ml... still almost 15% of my roll total on this game though, which im not too happy about! So lets get it done padres!
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                  • J.M. Disciple
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-16-10
                    • 5154

                    #4489
                    Originally posted by h00dini
                    Does anybody here bet on sports for a living?
                    I wish I did.... I use to play poker for a living before it cut shut down in america. I guess, im still playing for a living, but the winnings are crap right now cause i had to switch from full ring to heads up, so its a learning process.

                    Sooner or later I should become a professional sports bettor. With the help of everyone in this forum it is very possible to live off sports betting. I would suggest you need at least a $20k bankroll to live off of though.

                    I would use a $100 unit size w/ $20k roll (.005)

                    Figure each system should make:
                    Crusher 50 units +
                    Wallco Plus 100 units+
                    JM NBA 50 units+
                    Wallco's NBA: (i forgot the # but lets say like 50 units)
                    There are also other systems which are reverse to these which could make a bunch of money
                    then you throw in my Over / under system and you are looking at atleast 300 units a year...

                    Oh ya throw in JM V1 hockey and solamens 1/2 system and you will be up probably 400 units at least each year. Which is aprox $40k a year from sports betting when you follow all these systems.

                    Again just need a big bankroll with good management. The bigger your bankroll, the most systems you can follow. It is a bit tedious inputting all the #s and reading through the forums at times, but I think $40k a year will be well worth it. I'm just a tiny bettor right now, but i look at it as building up experience as well as future bankroll.
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                    • thelimit0310
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-24-11
                      • 1233

                      #4490
                      Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                      I wish I did.... I use to play poker for a living before it cut shut down in america. I guess, im still playing for a living, but the winnings are crap right now cause i had to switch from full ring to heads up, so its a learning process.

                      Sooner or later I should become a professional sports bettor. With the help of everyone in this forum it is very possible to live off sports betting. I would suggest you need at least a $20k bankroll to live off of though.

                      I would use a $100 unit size w/ $20k roll (.005)

                      Figure each system should make:
                      Crusher 50 units +
                      Wallco Plus 100 units+
                      JM NBA 50 units+
                      Wallco's NBA: (i forgot the # but lets say like 50 units)
                      There are also other systems which are reverse to these which could make a bunch of money
                      then you throw in my Over / under system and you are looking at atleast 300 units a year...

                      Oh ya throw in JM V1 hockey and solamens 1/2 system and you will be up probably 400 units at least each year. Which is aprox $40k a year from sports betting when you follow all these systems.

                      Again just need a big bankroll with good management. The bigger your bankroll, the most systems you can follow. It is a bit tedious inputting all the #s and reading through the forums at times, but I think $40k a year will be well worth it. I'm just a tiny bettor right now, but i look at it as building up experience as well as future bankroll.
                      That's a fairly conservative approach too, a great method because even losing streaks won't take out your income. However during basketball season you could easily be labbying with 5% BR.

                      dlunc: i'm sure your not the only one. I had to adjust my labby lines for these games as well.
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                      • dlunc3
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-31-09
                        • 9129

                        #4491
                        Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                        I wish I did.... I use to play poker for a living before it cut shut down in america. I guess, im still playing for a living, but the winnings are crap right now cause i had to switch from full ring to heads up, so its a learning process.

                        Sooner or later I should become a professional sports bettor. With the help of everyone in this forum it is very possible to live off sports betting. I would suggest you need at least a $20k bankroll to live off of though.

                        I would use a $100 unit size w/ $20k roll (.005)

                        Figure each system should make:
                        Crusher 50 units +
                        Wallco Plus 100 units+
                        JM NBA 50 units+
                        Wallco's NBA: (i forgot the # but lets say like 50 units)
                        There are also other systems which are reverse to these which could make a bunch of money
                        then you throw in my Over / under system and you are looking at atleast 300 units a year...

                        Oh ya throw in JM V1 hockey and solamens 1/2 system and you will be up probably 400 units at least each year. Which is aprox $40k a year from sports betting when you follow all these systems.

                        Again just need a big bankroll with good management. The bigger your bankroll, the most systems you can follow. It is a bit tedious inputting all the #s and reading through the forums at times, but I think $40k a year will be well worth it. I'm just a tiny bettor right now, but i look at it as building up experience as well as future bankroll.
                        Sounds good when you lay it out like that but believe me, its not... Ive studied and worked very hard with bankrolls ranging from 10k-40k for the past few years... bad runs happen and systems dont always perform the way they are supposed to. Hopefully the next few years go as smooth and easy as you make it sound though.. i could use a nice 40k year
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                        • dlunc3
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-31-09
                          • 9129

                          #4492
                          starting with SD tonight!
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                          • J.M. Disciple
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-16-10
                            • 5154

                            #4493
                            Was looking at some MLB stats over the last week and it appears "score 1st inning" has +odds and most teams are actually scoring 1st inning, at least those are the results i got over this past week.

                            Anyone have a site where i can check this stat year to year and see how it comes up? Or at least check this years stats for teams to score 1st inning?
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                            • Franchise19
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 08-06-09
                              • 37

                              #4494
                              Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                              Was looking at some MLB stats over the last week and it appears "score 1st inning" has +odds and most teams are actually scoring 1st inning, at least those are the results i got over this past week.

                              Anyone have a site where i can check this stat year to year and see how it comes up? Or at least check this years stats for teams to score 1st inning?
                              Try this out and see how much it helps. You should be able to find all your info on there hopefully

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                              • J.M. Disciple
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-16-10
                                • 5154

                                #4495
                                Originally posted by dlunc3
                                Sounds good when you lay it out like that but believe me, its not... Ive studied and worked very hard with bankrolls ranging from 10k-40k for the past few years... bad runs happen and systems dont always perform the way they are supposed to. Hopefully the next few years go as smooth and easy as you make it sound though.. i could use a nice 40k year

                                Ya i know exactly what you mean. When i was testing ML favorites with 15 labby lines over this past week, variance was a *****. Underdogs have been killing the game, so i just gave up on that cause i didn't realize how big of a bankroll you actually need for this.

                                I do not know the % ML favorites actually win long run. I know in basketball its probably like 60% or something. MLB im guessing its a lot lower around 55%, but the juice is a joke at times even when your doing labby.

                                Oh with all the systems I listed above, I would just suggest doing labby for all of them and since there are so many systems going on just use .25% of your bankroll as unit size. I dont think any of these systems hit below 40% overall by end of the season for overall record, so it should be profitable.

                                i love the labby
                                <JMD>
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                                • J.M. Disciple
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-16-10
                                  • 5154

                                  #4496
                                  Originally posted by Franchise19
                                  Try this out and see how much it helps. You should be able to find all your info on there hopefully

                                  http://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/stat...-runs-per-game

                                  Thanks player! I appreciate the help! I was using covers.com and looking at the scores for each day individually. Your way is much faster.
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                                  • Franchise19
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 08-06-09
                                    • 37

                                    #4497
                                    Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                    Thanks player! I appreciate the help! I was using covers.com and looking at the scores for each day individually. Your way is much faster.
                                    We're all here to help each other plus this way you can sort the runs/inning in every possible way for the best outcome that you need it for. Looking at it daily and tracking it gets quite irritating after a while to be honest lol
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                                    • YorkHunt
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-11-10
                                      • 7496

                                      #4498
                                      Norris is a great pitcher guys..very good composure. Good Luck!
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                                      • J.M. Disciple
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-16-10
                                        • 5154

                                        #4499
                                        Originally posted by Franchise19
                                        Try this out and see how much it helps. You should be able to find all your info on there hopefully

                                        http://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/stat...-runs-per-game

                                        I added up all the decimals from the first column. I assume this equals the average amount of points scored per team? Which comes out on average to .454 runs per team for 1st inning runs, so on average with each team playing each other that is .90 runs scored in 1st inning.

                                        However, because there are multiple runs a team can score in the 1st inning this stat is deceiving and not sure if it helps my back test at all.

                                        Ill look more at the site and see what i can find.
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                                        • honeyeater
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 01-20-11
                                          • 253

                                          #4500
                                          Originally posted by h00dini
                                          Does anybody here bet on sports for a living?
                                          Yes I do Hoodini- it's my sole source of income. I have "clients" and I get 30% of the winnings above a moving principle. Meaning: If a clients has $20,000 on Monday then $25,000 on Sunday then I get $1500. His NEW principle is $23500. So if the following Sunday his balance is $22,000 then I get nothing. Nothing until we go over $23500 (or if he makes a withdraw then he changes the balance). We do month cycles.
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                                          • kjrudemi
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 12-20-10
                                            • 105

                                            #4501
                                            Top 2nd and Padres already in trouble.
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                                            • YorkHunt
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-11-10
                                              • 7496

                                              #4502
                                              1-0 2 on no out...:-/ stauffers throwing lots of pitches
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                                              • dlunc3
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 10-31-09
                                                • 9129

                                                #4503
                                                Originally posted by honeyeater
                                                Yes I do Hoodini- it's my sole source of income. I have "clients" and I get 30% of the winnings above a moving principle. Meaning: If a clients has $20,000 on Monday then $25,000 on Sunday then I get $1500. His NEW principle is $23500. So if the following Sunday his balance is $22,000 then I get nothing. Nothing until we go over $23500 (or if he makes a withdraw then he changes the balance). We do month cycles.

                                                Do you direct them to play systems from this forum?
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                                                • dlunc3
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 10-31-09
                                                  • 9129

                                                  #4504
                                                  i guess Houston is winning the World Series this year
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                                                  • YorkHunt
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 12-11-10
                                                    • 7496

                                                    #4505
                                                    Bourn up..very good batter
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                                                    • dlunc3
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 10-31-09
                                                      • 9129

                                                      #4506
                                                      he destroys bankrolls singlehandedly... i wish they would just walk him
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                                                      • MARCUS
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 06-19-09
                                                        • 358

                                                        #4507
                                                        Originally posted by h00dini
                                                        Does anybody here bet on sports for a living?
                                                        ..why do you ask?
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                                                        • edh1011
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 08-02-09
                                                          • 907

                                                          #4508
                                                          Originally posted by dlunc3
                                                          i guess Houston is winning the World Series this year
                                                          No shit lol. If we keep betting against them they will set a record for wins
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                                                          • edh1011
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 08-02-09
                                                            • 907

                                                            #4509
                                                            Looks like even JM "unofficial" plays are more powerful than the V3 fade strategy. At least so far this year.
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                                                            • honeyeater
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 01-20-11
                                                              • 253

                                                              #4510
                                                              Originally posted by dlunc3
                                                              Do you direct them to play systems from this forum?
                                                              Now I understand why people get aggravated on this forum. (I'm not aggravated by the way) NO OFFENSE- But did you read what I wrote? I MANAGE THEIR MONEY. I MAKE THE BETS. I GET 30%. If I "directed them" to this forum why would they need me?
                                                              SO to answer your question no- I don't direct anyone here. The less they know the better off I am.
                                                              I don't bet Wallco BUT I do bet JM (we took MIN today because it was a shut out system #5 AND an unofficail JM #1).
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                                                              • gofightingirish
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 08-22-10
                                                                • 272

                                                                #4511
                                                                depending on sd bats ? I have a lot of my bankroll in also for ml and rl.......I did pussy out for the total play but I am with dunc.....this sux....hope things get better
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                                                                • honeyeater
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 01-20-11
                                                                  • 253

                                                                  #4512
                                                                  Originally posted by dlunc3
                                                                  Do you direct them to play systems from this forum?
                                                                  Now I understand why people get aggravated on this forum. (I'm not aggravated by the way) NO OFFENSE- But did you read what I wrote? I MANAGE THEIR MONEY. I MAKE THE BETS. I GET 30%. If I "directed them" to this forum why would they need me?
                                                                  SO to answer your question no- I don't direct anyone here. The less they know the better off I am.
                                                                  I don't bet Wallco BUT I do bet JM (we took MIN today because it was a shut out system #5 AND an unofficail JM #1). These guys don't know SBR exists. But as I stated I only follow shut out, JM, system integrity, and SOME Beging Fav in a series systems. And I only play THE LAST GAMES IN A SERIES (B,C or 5,6). I played MIN because of the Shutout System- JM just made me more sure.
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                                                                  • J.M. Disciple
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-16-10
                                                                    • 5154

                                                                    #4513
                                                                    Originally posted by honeyeater
                                                                    Yes I do Hoodini- it's my sole source of income. I have "clients" and I get 30% of the winnings above a moving principle. Meaning: If a clients has $20,000 on Monday then $25,000 on Sunday then I get $1500. His NEW principle is $23500. So if the following Sunday his balance is $22,000 then I get nothing. Nothing until we go over $23500 (or if he makes a withdraw then he changes the balance). We do month cycles.

                                                                    Are you looking for a new student? I could def use a bigger bankroll and everyone knows im on here every day trying to help with new systems and follow a bunch of them. Message me if you are interested in picking up a new student.

                                                                    We can discuss whatever on skype or via message on this forum if you want to make some extra money.
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                                                                    • stevex
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 05-02-10
                                                                      • 5122

                                                                      #4514
                                                                      edh that means nothing. Even with the Royals losing my Pre-V3 bet tonight I still chase them 1 or 2 more games like a "regular V1" series with 3 games since it becomes a V3.
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                                                                      • tuneman
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 01-06-10
                                                                        • 152

                                                                        #4515
                                                                        oh boy!!!!!!!
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