so why does A bet on V3 against jm system
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ok15533SBR High Roller
- 12-14-09
- 220
#4481Comment -
h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#4482Those padres better come in tonight or there's gonna be some pretty sad pissed off people in here.Comment -
h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#4484Does anybody here bet on sports for a living?Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#4485JMD you system is very interesting . please share your results with us. and if you have time be more explicit about the way you should bet on your Over system, What do you do when you came from 7 games to 15? or from 15 to seven . or how do you put the numbers on each line after cleaning a line.?
My system is not down pat since i barely started it. The way I tested it in the past was each line i cleared i instantly replaced it with a unit. I would then balance and average out all the lines at the end of the day.
I'm currently trying to work out away to make it a bit more conservative with less variance. Of course this would mean less profit, but when I was testing this method even just a couple bad days, where you replace each cleared line with a unit, some of your bets can become very big.
I have a 146 unit bankroll right now, but even then when your running so many lines the variance can become pretty big even with the labby. That is just my opinion. I'm still getting use to all the variance in sports betting.
What am i going to start doing now thanks to "analyzer" is just betting the Unders instead of the Overs. Unders hit about 50.5% over the past 7 years, which make them more profitable then Overs.
Basically my lines start with 1 unit each line by split in 2. So if your unit size is $10 your line is
5 5
5 5
5 5
If you win 1 and lose the other 2 your lines are:
5 5 10
5 5 10
Then you average them out to
6 6
6 6
6 6
Until all the lines are clear. If you do not have enough #s left on your labby lines to make up for all the games, then you may add a unit. I know this system works, so i am not going to back test it any further because it is very tedious. I'm just going to start keeping track of it starting from today.
I have crusher MLB, wallco Plu$, JM MLB, and Unders all on different excel sheets, so we will see how each system does this month. Right now i do not really have any results from betting unders to share. Basically studying labby methods though anything that wins 34% or more of the time is going to show a profit long run.
I do not recommend playing blackjack, roulete, or even baccarate with it. I have tested the labby with each of these methods and because there is a table limit and online casinos are pretty RIGGED! it wont work.
Baccarate has like a 48.9% winning % of hands so it could show short term profit. I did about 1,000 hands yesterday of this and i was up $200 at one point with a $1 unit size, but ended up losing it all back and gave up. Maybe if you ran like 20 lines with this it may work! I give up testing it though. Takes way too much time and i have failed trying to beat it too many times now.Comment -
huser21SBR Rookie
- 05-11-11
- 11
#4486Good! Too many whiners acting like they are forced to make these plays. People trying to help out others and end up getting cut down for it? Reminds me of my crazy ex-wife.Comment -
stevexSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-02-10
- 5122
#4487Not saying there is a "good" loss, but if the Twins do hold on to this lead will just come right back with the official V3 play tomorrow on the Royals.Comment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
- 9129
#4488lets get it tonight boys... gotta admit I vagina'd out a little... only bet the -1rl rather then the -1.5, and only bet about 1/2 of what I needed to bet on the ml... still almost 15% of my roll total on this game though, which im not too happy about! So lets get it done padres!Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#4489I wish I did.... I use to play poker for a living before it cut shut down in america. I guess, im still playing for a living, but the winnings are crap right now cause i had to switch from full ring to heads up, so its a learning process.
Sooner or later I should become a professional sports bettor. With the help of everyone in this forum it is very possible to live off sports betting. I would suggest you need at least a $20k bankroll to live off of though.
I would use a $100 unit size w/ $20k roll (.005)
Figure each system should make:
Crusher 50 units +
Wallco Plus 100 units+
JM NBA 50 units+
Wallco's NBA: (i forgot the # but lets say like 50 units)
There are also other systems which are reverse to these which could make a bunch of money
then you throw in my Over / under system and you are looking at atleast 300 units a year...
Oh ya throw in JM V1 hockey and solamens 1/2 system and you will be up probably 400 units at least each year. Which is aprox $40k a year from sports betting when you follow all these systems.
Again just need a big bankroll with good management. The bigger your bankroll, the most systems you can follow. It is a bit tedious inputting all the #s and reading through the forums at times, but I think $40k a year will be well worth it. I'm just a tiny bettor right now, but i look at it as building up experience as well as future bankroll.Comment -
thelimit0310SBR MVP
- 01-24-11
- 1233
#4490I wish I did.... I use to play poker for a living before it cut shut down in america. I guess, im still playing for a living, but the winnings are crap right now cause i had to switch from full ring to heads up, so its a learning process.
Sooner or later I should become a professional sports bettor. With the help of everyone in this forum it is very possible to live off sports betting. I would suggest you need at least a $20k bankroll to live off of though.
I would use a $100 unit size w/ $20k roll (.005)
Figure each system should make:
Crusher 50 units +
Wallco Plus 100 units+
JM NBA 50 units+
Wallco's NBA: (i forgot the # but lets say like 50 units)
There are also other systems which are reverse to these which could make a bunch of money
then you throw in my Over / under system and you are looking at atleast 300 units a year...
Oh ya throw in JM V1 hockey and solamens 1/2 system and you will be up probably 400 units at least each year. Which is aprox $40k a year from sports betting when you follow all these systems.
Again just need a big bankroll with good management. The bigger your bankroll, the most systems you can follow. It is a bit tedious inputting all the #s and reading through the forums at times, but I think $40k a year will be well worth it. I'm just a tiny bettor right now, but i look at it as building up experience as well as future bankroll.
dlunc: i'm sure your not the only one. I had to adjust my labby lines for these games as well.Comment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
- 9129
#4491I wish I did.... I use to play poker for a living before it cut shut down in america. I guess, im still playing for a living, but the winnings are crap right now cause i had to switch from full ring to heads up, so its a learning process.
Sooner or later I should become a professional sports bettor. With the help of everyone in this forum it is very possible to live off sports betting. I would suggest you need at least a $20k bankroll to live off of though.
I would use a $100 unit size w/ $20k roll (.005)
Figure each system should make:
Crusher 50 units +
Wallco Plus 100 units+
JM NBA 50 units+
Wallco's NBA: (i forgot the # but lets say like 50 units)
There are also other systems which are reverse to these which could make a bunch of money
then you throw in my Over / under system and you are looking at atleast 300 units a year...
Oh ya throw in JM V1 hockey and solamens 1/2 system and you will be up probably 400 units at least each year. Which is aprox $40k a year from sports betting when you follow all these systems.
Again just need a big bankroll with good management. The bigger your bankroll, the most systems you can follow. It is a bit tedious inputting all the #s and reading through the forums at times, but I think $40k a year will be well worth it. I'm just a tiny bettor right now, but i look at it as building up experience as well as future bankroll.but believe me, its not... Ive studied and worked very hard with bankrolls ranging from 10k-40k for the past few years... bad runs happen and systems dont always perform the way they are supposed to. Hopefully the next few years go as smooth and easy as you make it sound though.. i could use a nice 40k year
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dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
- 9129
#4492starting with SD tonight!Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#4493Was looking at some MLB stats over the last week and it appears "score 1st inning" has +odds and most teams are actually scoring 1st inning, at least those are the results i got over this past week.
Anyone have a site where i can check this stat year to year and see how it comes up? Or at least check this years stats for teams to score 1st inning?Comment -
Franchise19SBR Rookie
- 08-06-09
- 37
#4494Was looking at some MLB stats over the last week and it appears "score 1st inning" has +odds and most teams are actually scoring 1st inning, at least those are the results i got over this past week.
Anyone have a site where i can check this stat year to year and see how it comes up? Or at least check this years stats for teams to score 1st inning?
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J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#4495Sounds good when you lay it out like thatbut believe me, its not... Ive studied and worked very hard with bankrolls ranging from 10k-40k for the past few years... bad runs happen and systems dont always perform the way they are supposed to. Hopefully the next few years go as smooth and easy as you make it sound though.. i could use a nice 40k year
Ya i know exactly what you mean. When i was testing ML favorites with 15 labby lines over this past week, variance was a *****. Underdogs have been killing the game, so i just gave up on that cause i didn't realize how big of a bankroll you actually need for this.
I do not know the % ML favorites actually win long run. I know in basketball its probably like 60% or something. MLB im guessing its a lot lower around 55%, but the juice is a joke at times even when your doing labby.
Oh with all the systems I listed above, I would just suggest doing labby for all of them and since there are so many systems going on just use .25% of your bankroll as unit size. I dont think any of these systems hit below 40% overall by end of the season for overall record, so it should be profitable.
i love the labby
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J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#4496Try this out and see how much it helps. You should be able to find all your info on there hopefully
http://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/stat...-runs-per-game
Thanks player! I appreciate the help! I was using covers.com and looking at the scores for each day individually. Your way is much faster.Comment -
Franchise19SBR Rookie
- 08-06-09
- 37
#4497We're all here to help each other plus this way you can sort the runs/inning in every possible way for the best outcome that you need it for. Looking at it daily and tracking it gets quite irritating after a while to be honest lolComment -
YorkHuntSBR Hall of Famer
- 12-11-10
- 7496
#4498Norris is a great pitcher guys..very good composure. Good Luck!Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#4499Try this out and see how much it helps. You should be able to find all your info on there hopefully
http://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/stat...-runs-per-game
I added up all the decimals from the first column. I assume this equals the average amount of points scored per team? Which comes out on average to .454 runs per team for 1st inning runs, so on average with each team playing each other that is .90 runs scored in 1st inning.
However, because there are multiple runs a team can score in the 1st inning this stat is deceiving and not sure if it helps my back test at all.
Ill look more at the site and see what i can find.Comment -
honeyeaterRestricted User
- 01-20-11
- 253
#4500Yes I do Hoodini- it's my sole source of income. I have "clients" and I get 30% of the winnings above a moving principle. Meaning: If a clients has $20,000 on Monday then $25,000 on Sunday then I get $1500. His NEW principle is $23500. So if the following Sunday his balance is $22,000 then I get nothing. Nothing until we go over $23500 (or if he makes a withdraw then he changes the balance). We do month cycles.Comment -
kjrudemiSBR High Roller
- 12-20-10
- 105
#4501Top 2nd and Padres already in trouble.Comment -
YorkHuntSBR Hall of Famer
- 12-11-10
- 7496
#45021-0 2 on no out...:-/ stauffers throwing lots of pitchesComment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
- 9129
#4503Yes I do Hoodini- it's my sole source of income. I have "clients" and I get 30% of the winnings above a moving principle. Meaning: If a clients has $20,000 on Monday then $25,000 on Sunday then I get $1500. His NEW principle is $23500. So if the following Sunday his balance is $22,000 then I get nothing. Nothing until we go over $23500 (or if he makes a withdraw then he changes the balance). We do month cycles.
Do you direct them to play systems from this forum?Comment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
- 9129
#4504i guess Houston is winning the World Series this yearComment -
YorkHuntSBR Hall of Famer
- 12-11-10
- 7496
#4505Bourn up..very good batterComment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
- 9129
#4506he destroys bankrolls singlehandedly... i wish they would just walk himComment -
edh1011SBR Wise Guy
- 08-02-09
- 907
#4509Looks like even JM "unofficial" plays are more powerful than the V3 fade strategy. At least so far this year.Comment -
honeyeaterRestricted User
- 01-20-11
- 253
#4510Now I understand why people get aggravated on this forum. (I'm not aggravated by the way) NO OFFENSE- But did you read what I wrote? I MANAGE THEIR MONEY. I MAKE THE BETS. I GET 30%. If I "directed them" to this forum why would they need me?
SO to answer your question no- I don't direct anyone here. The less they know the better off I am.
I don't bet Wallco BUT I do bet JM (we took MIN today because it was a shut out system #5 AND an unofficail JM #1).Comment -
gofightingirishSBR Sharp
- 08-22-10
- 272
#4511depending on sd bats ? I have a lot of my bankroll in also for ml and rl.......I did pussy out for the total play but I am with dunc.....this sux....hope things get betterComment -
honeyeaterRestricted User
- 01-20-11
- 253
#4512Now I understand why people get aggravated on this forum. (I'm not aggravated by the way) NO OFFENSE- But did you read what I wrote? I MANAGE THEIR MONEY. I MAKE THE BETS. I GET 30%. If I "directed them" to this forum why would they need me?
SO to answer your question no- I don't direct anyone here. The less they know the better off I am.
I don't bet Wallco BUT I do bet JM (we took MIN today because it was a shut out system #5 AND an unofficail JM #1). These guys don't know SBR exists. But as I stated I only follow shut out, JM, system integrity, and SOME Beging Fav in a series systems. And I only play THE LAST GAMES IN A SERIES (B,C or 5,6). I played MIN because of the Shutout System- JM just made me more sure.Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#4513Yes I do Hoodini- it's my sole source of income. I have "clients" and I get 30% of the winnings above a moving principle. Meaning: If a clients has $20,000 on Monday then $25,000 on Sunday then I get $1500. His NEW principle is $23500. So if the following Sunday his balance is $22,000 then I get nothing. Nothing until we go over $23500 (or if he makes a withdraw then he changes the balance). We do month cycles.
Are you looking for a new student? I could def use a bigger bankroll and everyone knows im on here every day trying to help with new systems and follow a bunch of them. Message me if you are interested in picking up a new student.
We can discuss whatever on skype or via message on this forum if you want to make some extra money.Comment -
stevexSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-02-10
- 5122
#4514edh that means nothing. Even with the Royals losing my Pre-V3 bet tonight I still chase them 1 or 2 more games like a "regular V1" series with 3 games since it becomes a V3.Comment -
tunemanSBR High Roller
- 01-06-10
- 152
#4515oh boy!!!!!!!Comment
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