His FIP over the past 3 starts are 7.9, 6.9and 7.3 according to fangraph which is way off from his career 4.3 so not sure how you see this not being off from baseline? I've watched his last few starts as well and the guy is leaving balls up in the zone alot and hitters seem to know what's coming half the time. Again just trying to understand what you guys are looking at that I am missing, thanks for the input.
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Every player (excluding pen of course) and manager on Bravos team should be given bars of soap wrapped in wet towels after gm and unmercifully beat every member of that pen Full Metal Jacket style. And I'm not even kidding
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well the Mets MGMT are the same idiots who are starting GEE for some bizarre reason, they have 5 starters, Harvey, Thor, Degrom, Colon, and Niese, Gee has no business being in that rotation...Comment -
End of day my own fault. I know about Braves pen and 1h was a better play no doubt. Oh well didn't expect their shit offense to score 8 either so maybe we can get some more....Comment -
I have not personally seen any of those starts so you may be right. I would say FIP alone is not enough to tell you the whole story about those starts and is more an indicator that those bad outings were not just a result of his team bailing on him defensively. Now when you look at his FIP combined with his inflated HR/FB numbers for those 3 starts then I think that is a better indication that you maybe correct in him either leaving pitches up in the zone or the hitters getting a good look at them. His BB/9 were also up with the exception of his last start as well which lends itself to poor control as you suggested. I just think that when you look at those numbers from his last 3 starts and see how far out of whack they are from his baseline that you have to assume either he is hurt or he will rebound back closer to his career baseline. If he gets shelled again today and goes to the DL or the bullpen to work his shit out so be it.
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No worries man I completely get that and if you have any questions about a pick or you have any insight to add feel free to chime in. Most of the regulars on this thread are more than willing to discuss the reasoning behind their picks when time allows for it. You might want to check out Leetreaper's thread as well as he has been on fire the past couple of weeks and is amongst the top guys on this thread in terms of record, units and ROI.
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Looking at lines for tomorrow and Toronto, Atlanta and Yankees all look real under priced to me for anyone that wants to buy in early on some good looking dogs. Most of these probably move towards favorites overnight or before game time tomorrow so worst case scenario you could probably hedge them by tomorrow afternoon for a small profit.Comment -
Jays are dogs AGAIN to freaking Mets with a rookie pitcher??? WTF is Vegas smoking? UNRAEL.Comment -
Lohse is just +105 against Volquez?Comment -
6/15
NYY RL +115 5dimes
6-17; -769Comment -
6/15
atl +148
DOD: 8-9 (+1.20u)Comment -
A lot of pretty big favorites today. 1st glance I like nats but not much else.Comment -
Monday:
Rangers +101 (5 Dimes)
21-35, -6.71Comment -
White soxs +160Comment -
Following are the updated MLB Bullpen Stats (6/15/15) for those that like to check them regularly.
No big surprise, Boston and Atlanta dropped in the standings.
*** I may have reached a point where I will not make a RL Play unless the BP is in the Top 10***
These collapses lately have bitten many of us.
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Frank Liriano a heavy fav AGAIN?! ChiSox lookin like a play...Comment -
6/15
ytd 1-0 (+1.1u)
Mil +120Comment -
Speaking of weird lines what going on with the Atlanta/Boston line????? How does a team that is in last place in their division and has lost 6 in a row open as a -135 favorite against anyone and then move almost 40 points even further into favorite territory? I get that Atlanta hasnt been playing well on the road either and they have had a couple of games blown by the bullpen over the weekend but did the book makers see any of the RedSox game against Toronto yesterday? Not to mention that Procello has been a gas can this year and has given up 5 runs or more in 4 of his last 5 starts.Comment
