How terrible is Wagerweb?

**Justin7** · 04-06-10, 04:17 PM

There are too many red flags there right now. I would not risk posting up there (if you are a winning player).

**trixtrix** · 04-06-10, 04:21 PM

wagerweb stole 9k+ from me, then 2k+ more from me, sbr investigated and found wagerweb 100% at fault

but no, you should obv listen to "somebody" who gives you good hype, b/c he's obv more trustworthy and reliable than the entire sbr fora and management team

come to think of it, after you deposit, call up wagerweb dan and ask him if he could give back the money he stole the 3rd time from me now that he has more deposits

**slowhand666** · 04-06-10, 04:42 PM

why would anyone use these guys??........what was the "good feedback...." you got?

**robmpink** · 04-06-10, 06:09 PM

Yes it was a matter of time before I popped in. I have played with them steady for over 3 years. I'm happy, get paid on time when I withdraw, they have a good loyalty program.

Let's lay it out. Limits, payouts, lines,CS , tolerance towards winners

#1 Limits are ok. Remember it is a rec book.
#2 Payouts run smooth.
#3 20 cent baseball i think, not the best lines.
#4 Customer service is average to above of late
#5 Rec book. If you beat them all the time they don't want your business. It goes hand in hand with their business model, rec book.

Just my 2 cents since you asked. Am I urging you to send money and play? No, that is up to you.

**Justin7** · 04-06-10, 06:26 PM

#1: Limits don't matter if the book robs you.
#2: Payouts don't matter if the book robs you.
#3: 20-cent line sucks, but doesn't matter if they rob you.
#4: CS *shrug* does it matter? They can't help if WW robs you
#5: If you beat them out of a decent figure, they rob you.

As mentioned earlier, trixtrix got mugged for betting correlated parlays. Real books pay when you beat them.

After Wager Web robbed trixtrix by voiding winning CPs, they kicked him in the nuts by stealing the rest of his balance. They gave no explanation for why they robbed the rest of his funds.

**Smurf71** · 04-07-10, 12:10 PM

Here's the dilemma. They are a rec. book. What that means? That means - if you win they will kick you out and will confiscate your whole balance in process? I thought that was Sportsbook.com formula! Who in their right mind would send money to these guys? Looks to me like they don't give a rats ass about their SBR rating or what anybody thinks about them in general. That is the road to hell.There can not be any other outcome.

They advertise themselves as " the best sports book on the web" just like Sportsbook.com is "the best and the biggest"

Damn...I have 30 active accounts and two books in reserve - BetEd and Wagerweb. Looks like they are both totally useless in perspective.

**skrtelfan** · 04-07-10, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by robmpink

#5 Rec book. If you beat them all the time they don't want your business. It goes hand in hand with their business model, rec book.

Bullshit. If a rec book decides they won't want your business, they pay you and show you the door, they don't steal from you like these crooks do. You should be ashamed of yourself for incessantly promoting this book knowing damn well they've stolen from customers for doing nothing other than winning.

**robmpink** · 04-07-10, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by skrtelfan

Bullshit. If a rec book decides they won't want your business, they pay you and show you the door, they don't steal from you like these crooks do. You should be ashamed of yourself for incessantly promoting this book knowing damn well they've stolen from customers for doing nothing other than winning.

Incessantly promoting this book? Are you a f'ing dork? From the time I have been a member here I maybe made 3 threads of my own about Wagerweb. If someone make a post about them asking a question and such I respond with my experiences. What is so hard to understand about that? I'm not setting myself on fire and screaming Wagerweb.

If someone here was to tell me they were betting straight bets, non steam moves on a consistant basis and didn't get paid, maybe I would agree with you.

For every 100 or so people that don't like them and have played there are 100's more who do enjoy them. It isn't a secret they don't like SBR.

**robmpink** · 04-07-10, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Smurf71

Here's the dilemma. They are a rec. book. What that means? That means - if you win they will kick you out and will confiscate your whole balance in process? I thought that was Sportsbook.com formula! Who in their right mind would send money to these guys? Looks to me like they don't give a rats ass about their SBR rating or what anybody thinks about them in general. That is the road to hell.There can not be any other outcome.

They advertise themselves as " the best sports book on the web" just like Sportsbook.com is "the best and the biggest"

Damn...I have 30 active accounts and two books in reserve - BetEd and Wagerweb. Looks like they are both totally useless in perspective.

They won't lose sleep.

**skrtelfan** · 04-07-10, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by robmpink

Incessantly promoting this book? Are you a f'ing dork? From the time I have been a member here I maybe made 3 threads of my own about Wagerweb. If someone make a post about them asking a question and such I respond with my experiences. What is so hard to understand about that? I'm not setting myself on fire and screaming Wagerweb.

If someone here was to tell me they were betting straight bets, non steam moves on a consistant basis and didn't get paid, maybe I would agree with you.

For every 100 or so people that don't like them and have played there are 100's more who do enjoy them. It isn't a secret they don't like SBR.

Right, the old "if it didn't happen to me, it didn't happen" excuse. Between that and the harassing PM you sent me telling me to "eat a dick" because of my worthless posts about Wagerweb, you seem to have the mentality of an 6 year old. Do you still proudly tell mommy every time you make a poopie in the toilet? Perhaps by the age of 9 or 10 you'll realize the world doesn't revolve around you, and you shouldn't promote a book just because they didn't steal from you personally.

The fact that you apparently think it's only appropriate to bet "straight wagers, non-steam" speaks volumes. What the **** is a "steam bet" anyway? I've had bets 10 minutes in advance of a line movement called steam; I've had bets hours after a line movement where the book never bothered to adjust their line called "steam."

**Smurf71** · 04-07-10, 10:38 PM

Well guys there is no reason to get ugly. These threads are made to exchange personal experiences and those can be different as we are different.
Yet if Sportsbook .com or some other D book would have stolen 10k from me and somebody on the forum makes them A+++ book , I'd probably get emotional over it too. Wagerweb is a rotten apple. It does not mean it has always been like that. The source of mine warmly recommended them as the best in industry... Yeah, whatever ! Rec. books are full of shit in a sense that their reasons for paranoia are have such a wide range. No matter how you bet- you bet the steam. Tony from 5Dimes recently accused somebody in buying his picks WTF!!! Would you imagine being a Forex trader and being accused in buying the information. Information is the most valuable commodity there is. The day accessing the information becomes a crime , stealing the money like some books do becomes widely legal.

The overall idea of being welcome only if you lose is ****ing sick! But if somebody steals your whole bankroll from you only because you are sharp- that is pure criminal act! WW seems to be proud before the fall. Good luck with that.

**sq764** · 04-07-10, 11:03 PM

they'll close soon to a bigger book

**Doug** · 04-07-10, 11:13 PM

They were once very good, not now

**idontlikerocks** · 04-08-10, 01:05 AM

what wagerweb has done to players is wrong and nobody should post up there until they fix it. i would recommend them otherwise as i havn't had problems with them and they have paid me.

**eyeball** · 04-08-10, 08:17 AM

I have played there and never had a problem allways got paid. I have had my diffrences with Robmpink but I don't believe they are as bad as SBR makes them out to be.

Some of the cases that SBR talks about relating to stolen funds are not as they would like you to believe. There has been rumors about some of these cases being related to betting syndicates.

They are a rec book but they don't kick you out if you win a few thousand. This kind of boils down to being a sponsor here.

Does anyone know what book that is not a sponsor that SBR does like?

**Smurf71** · 04-08-10, 08:54 AM

You have a good point- things are not as simple as they seem sometimes. There are many things we should be aware of before we pass our judgment. Yet recently I think small books experiencing a lack of liquidity and that makes them act carelessly. When you are struggling between life and death, that's when you stop caring about many things that were important to you before.

**korbal29** · 04-08-10, 09:02 AM

bottom line is if they pay is what counts

**Smurf71** · 04-08-10, 09:15 AM

Not true. The fact that they pay becomes irrelevant if they confiscate winners bankrolls. If they do that even once- they are toasted as a book.

**eyeball** · 04-08-10, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Smurf71

Not true. The fact that they pay becomes irrelevant if they confiscate winners bankrolls. If they do that even once- they are toasted as a book.

I agree with you I am not even using them anymore, and are not sticking up for them.
But some of the cases here at SBR are cases were players are taking shots at books. What I mean by taking shots is finding a loophole in the system for example calling in plays after the game has started. Betting syndicates

It would be wise to really know the full truth of complaints against any book not only
wagerweb. It's like this most all books will just pay you and reduce your limits and send you on your way if you beat them long term. Unless they are going out of busin ess, if they confiscate your funds its usually because you took a shot at them.

Good Luck

**Smurf71** · 04-08-10, 11:36 AM

Sure there is always 2 side to every story. That's why SBR and Justin step in to find out the truth. If player is a cheat, Justin has no problem stating that. If book is cheating that would be found out too. Sure SBR is more careful with their sponsors . As they say- money talks and bullshit walks!

**OMGRandyJackson** · 04-08-10, 11:57 AM

What is a correlated play?

**Smurf71** · 04-08-10, 12:04 PM

Is'nt that when you bet on both spread and the moneyline of the same game? What is betting the steam for that matter?

**trixtrix** · 04-08-10, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by eyeball

I agree with you I am not even using them anymore, and are not sticking up for them.
But some of the cases here at SBR are cases were players are taking shots at books. What I mean by taking shots is finding a loophole in the system for example calling in plays after the game has started. Betting syndicates

It would be wise to really know the full truth of complaints against any book not only
wagerweb. It's like this most all books will just pay you and reduce your limits and send you on your way if you beat them long term. Unless they are going out of busin ess, if they confiscate your funds its usually because you took a shot at them.

Good Luck

you sir, lack either reading comprehension or patience to actually read the sbr's report on the latest wagerweb confiscation case.

for that matter: i doubt you even understand the concept of "taking a shot at a book"

**skrtelfan** · 04-08-10, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by eyeball

But some of the cases here at SBR are cases were players are taking shots at books. What I mean by taking shots is finding a loophole in the system for example calling in plays after the game has started.

So? What do the "other cases" have to do with this specific case? The guy made legitimate parlay bets that WW canceled after the fact. There wasn't anything shady about the bets, they just stole his money, and actually stole his remaining balance on top of the canceled bets! There are times when the player is partially to blame for disputes but this certainly isn't one of them, so why obfuscate the issue by mentioning "other cases at SBR?"

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 04-08-10, 05:20 PM

Shit book. Not news.

**robmpink** · 04-08-10, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by skrtelfan

Right, the old "if it didn't happen to me, it didn't happen" excuse. Between that and the harassing PM you sent me telling me to "eat a dick" because of my worthless posts about Wagerweb, you seem to have the mentality of an 6 year old. Do you still proudly tell mommy every time you make a poopie in the toilet? Perhaps by the age of 9 or 10 you'll realize the world doesn't revolve around you, and you shouldn't promote a book just because they didn't steal from you personally.

The fact that you apparently think it's only appropriate to bet "straight wagers, non-steam" speaks volumes. What the **** is a "steam bet" anyway? I've had bets 10 minutes in advance of a line movement called steam; I've had bets hours after a line movement where the book never bothered to adjust their line called "steam."

**robmpink** · 04-08-10, 07:02 PM

The bottom line is I'm not here to get in verbal tussles with anyone. I responded to the question with my feedback. Don't attack me or you will get it back. I don't mind stuff such as Justin's mocking post.

**Thremp** · 04-08-10, 08:56 PM

Wagerweb didn't used to do this. Whatev. They do now. Get with the times. Books change. Wagerweb clearly decided to make a business decision turning into thieves.

**increasedodds** · 04-08-10, 09:16 PM

I was always paid promptly by them and sizeable figures.

I would not deposit there now.

**skrtelfan** · 04-08-10, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by robmpink

The bottom line is I'm not here to get in verbal tussles with anyone. I responded to the question with my feedback. Don't attack me or you will get it back. I don't mind stuff such as Justin's mocking post.

Uh huh, which is why you responded with a string of expletives in a PM because I called you out on your repeated posts promoting this shit book, ignoring the fact that at least one regular poster had a very large balance stolen by these crooks.

**BrentCrude** · 04-11-10, 07:04 AM

Wagerweb solicited me endlessly to take them up on their 100% bonus last fall.I knew they had crappy odds but deposited just $100 anyway.I start making my first tiny parlay bets and I see that they had a limit as to how much you could friggin win on them.I called customer service and they gave a lame response about it.I prompty did my one and only charge back ever to a sportsbook and left all my money in my account so I didn't even think it was worth playing to screw them.

**saintjames** · 04-11-10, 08:52 AM

wagerweb is a book that plays instead of pays the players

**DIF** · 04-11-10, 05:58 PM

I was not happy there, a couple of years ago. Huge fees and problem with withrawals-options cost me some money(big fees bank-wire or western union)

**Vince Lombardi** · 04-11-10, 07:34 PM

I wish they would stop calling me. WTF!