Hey fellas, I'm sure everyone is excited about football getting here. This weekend I took advantage of a great bonus 1Vice has going. Dep a minimum of $800 and get both 100%fp and 100% cash. I'm looking to build my bankroll up for football so I'm pretty excited. I just wanted to give you guys another option to consider. Wherever you decide to play, hope you guys have a good start to the new season!
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Too early to claim you've "taken advantage".
Wait until you've successfully turned those freeplays into cash (if they actually allow you to!).
As often as not, it is the bookie who's "taken advantage" with these offers.Comment -
you seem like a guy who likes fast payouts, free money, good lines and great customer service at 1vice
VERY nice bonus. Good luck with your rollover and building up the bankroll.Comment -
Damn that's a nice bonus! I wished I waited - I made a deposit 2 weeks ago and only received 150% free playOriginally posted by aortega521Comment -
Thanks fellas everything is good. Hopefully I can build it into something significant. Hope you all get in on it as well.Comment -
a C minus book.
best of luck.Comment -
the lines are crap, the limits are craps, the rollover is like 1000000x........not worth itComment -
Guys...Freaking out here. I just emailed them. You should be freaking out too. I always bet $100-$200 per game and I deposited $300 and took $450 in free play bonus. So thus my max wager is $30 thats ridiculous. I feel like I'm being freerolled. I emailed them but still this is nuts. I hope they make this more clear to me.
Check this rule out:
No wager shall exceed 10% of the original bankroll of a player. Wagers exceeding 10% of the player’s original bankroll may be deemed as bonus abuse and winnings forfeited. This with the exception of players whose current bankroll is 7x the original bankroll. In the event of a player having 7x the original bankroll, the player may make individual wagers of no more than 10% of total bankroll.
This rule is absurd and if this is true they've been freerolling me for $2000 in volume already with no mention of me ever breaking this rule when I've talked to them many times in live chat.Comment -
Talk directly to Griffin. Hes good.Comment -
Their model is clearly based on constant quick deposits and slow withdrawals. The bonuses and the above rules ensure this model stays afloat. It's good that you posted your concern here, as they monitor forums and will want to make it right to avoid bad publicity.Comment -
never heard of such a rule
have you confirmed this to be true?Comment -
I asked about this and Ed got mad and said: "I just told you how it works." This is one of the scam aspects of 1Vice. They have stated rules and then they don't apply. Or do they? You never know. He told me the betting limit would be $250 on a $500 deposit.Originally posted by EVfollowerComment -
Sounds like different players get different rules?
Nice get out of paying clause they have in the bonus terms when they choose to enact it though.
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Originally posted by EVfollower
If true.....SHaDY. But not surprising.Comment -
Originally posted by OptionalSounds like different players get different rules?
Nice get out of paying clause they have in the bonus terms when they choose to enact it though.
I avoided making an initial deposit with these guys recently after noticing that different players
get quoted different rollovers, rules, deposit amounts for contests, and other shit like that. Also
when talking with these guys you are literally walking on egg shells. They are sorta maybe just
a little bit hot headed. They are profiling you from the moment you say hello. They seem to be
on edge all the time. Simple questions for any other Book that you ask these guys and they are
ready to boot you before even signing you up.
I just couldn't bring myself to make an initial deposit with theses guys.
The vibe is too f*cking weird with them.Comment -
This must be a new rule- it was never done like that before. I deposited 500 a few weeeks ago and I can pay at least $200 per game (because that's what I played yesterday.) i know wagerweb has something similar when you receive the 50% cash bonus- they limit you to 20% max play of your deposit. If this is true though who the penetrate is gonna play there???Comment -
I don't think the rule even applies. I think they put it up there to discourage smarter bettors from opening accounts. The people that will read that rule will decide they can't take advantage of the bonus and move on. The people they want betting with them will never bother to read it.Comment -
I think you are right. As some guys have posted above, contacting Griffin before depositing may be a good idea. I was originally limited to $300/bet. That was limited to $200 fairly fast. I was then booted from the book.Originally posted by OptionalSounds like different players get different rules?
Nice get out of paying clause they have in the bonus terms when they choose to enact it though.
Griffin contacted me and said that he would take me on again for the NFL last year. He said that I would have a $300 limit. That was changed to $200 almost immediately. I contacted Griffin and he put it back up to $300/game. He booted me again and it looks like it's for good.
I can't speak for the future since these bonuses seem tough to survive, but so far Griffin has been a man of his word and has paid.Comment -
Did you get booted before meeting the rollover?Originally posted by raiders72001Comment -
Spoke with griffin, the rule doesn't apply to me. He said the rule is there for legal purposes but assures me that rule and some others do not count at all for me.Comment -
Really no reason to even read 1Vice's rules. They are just for show. Griffin is your local and everything is negotiable. This is not really a sportsbook type operation. It's basically like dealing with a major local outfit.Originally posted by EVfollowerComment -
I met the rollover.Originally posted by Buffalo NickleComment -
That's good to know. You and Downsouth have both reported beating the rollover and being paid. I think 1Vice is actually a pretty solid operation. If Griffin is not using drugs and living beyond his means, he should become a very rich man. They don't take any risks at all. They will not give you too much when it comes to bonuses. They will not let winners keep beating them. They make people bet later more efficient lines and limit how much they can get down on a good bet. They are very tough to beat.Originally posted by raiders72001
They are basically taking lots of $500 deposits that are going to zero and paying out a few guys. They run a sportsbook exactly the way I would. I don't see how they can lose unless they start eating the deposits.Comment -
or so excited, and you just can't hide it, Griff is scared of my action.Originally posted by aortega521Comment -
Interesting point of view, some might say scary. I use them simply because they are one of the first every week to have lines, so your l"late lines" comment is bogus. I also read of you quoting rules, I done some research and see the rule you quote is in the casino section of rules, more Bogus information. Anyway I can say first hand, this is a good bonus which I and many like me, like to take advantage of, I make larger deposits and get to play larger limits, so the petty stuff you and many always mention does not apply to me I guess. I am jumping on your thread and post because you spit and spout nonsense.... and nothing worse than someone shouting out nonsense as the gospel.. to all who may consider them, do your own research as with any book. ask your own questions before believing something you read from the deciples of doom you can find around here...lolOriginally posted by Buffalo NickleComment -
Well now, you said they didn't have a 45X rollover remember? This is 45X!!! Exactly as I said. I don't see you eating any crow.Originally posted by T4TRUTH
When do 1Vice's lines come out? Before or after 5Dimes, BetOnline and Bookmaker? Can you bet college football on a Sunday? When on Monday can you bet them? I would go crazy watching the lines move against me.
As for the bonuses, they are standard and not all that great. Everyone of them leaves you with the same amount of your original deposit if you coinflip them. They are huge which works in their favor. People see the 15X and don't realize they are getting a 45X rollover which very few people can withstand.
Sheep are being led to slaughter. You have been betting at 1vice for a while and you are still there which means you are losing.
This is my point. You are a 1Vice perfect 1Vice customer and why they cannot lose.
I think you love them a little too much and Ortega is obviously working for them or getting something for his commercials.
But hey, they give a big bonus and it is worth taking.Comment -
1Vice is not an originator. Things at 1Vice are negotiable. I don't know Griffin's methods but player's are profiled.Originally posted by T4TRUTH
Buffalo Nickle makes good points. It seems as though he's been around the block and understands 1Vice's risk management.Comment -
Hey raiders, did he show you door after you simply cleared a bonus one time? I do wonder how quick someone is shown the door. I get that he pays you out though quickly. Griffin does seem like a good dude, hes cleared all of my concerns.Comment -
They watch your account and see how you do. If you are winning and look like a winning bettor, they lower your limits first. If you call, they will raise them up a little. They will let you bet through the rollover and then they will assess how you have done. If you have done too well, they tell you they do not want you back.Originally posted by EVfollower
But even if they tell you they do not want you back, they still may take you back.
Unlike other places, who will study whether or not you are actually sharp, 1Vice takes no chances and will boot you even if you are a coinflipper that just got lucky. When you are giving bonuses that big, you cannot take any chances.
They will only lose about $5,000 to you and then you are done. But that's a fair deal. If you can take your $5,000 and run, you have done well.
They are very upfront if you ask them questions. They are actually taking a shot at. I would do it if I hadn't taken a lot of better bonuses and have a lot less to rollover.Comment -
LOL funny, the argumentative positions some take.... Let me guess they booted you and you are sour over this? I have never taken a bonus at higher than 20x, do not know where you keep coming up with 45x. the thing I like about the bonus it is not calculated on your winnings from the bonus like many do, where your rollover starts getting up high like you mention, I have taken 300% 20x, 150% 12x they were the bonuses I have taken in the past. I am above the break even with them and have not been shown the door.Originally posted by Buffalo Nickle
I do not see your need to talk nonsense, just because you were booted maybe for other reasons?? I play a wide variety of action and so do not pose a threat just carving some profits. Maybe you should email griffin directly as someone mentioned and see what is on offer to you. I have completed the roll and gotten paid, these would be my basic concerns.
As for betting sunday next weeks games, I can say am 99% certain I bet next weeks college on saturday evenings and next week NFL on sunday evening unless an obvious game that has some uncertain injuries and it is not available anywhere.
Maybe just maybe, you have not played there at all or it is from a long time ago and so are not up to date...???? possibility????Comment -
Yes, one time and I was gone but then he emailed me and said I could come back for the NFL. I came back, met the rollover and was booted again.Originally posted by EVfollowerComment -
I haven't played there at all because their offer is not good enough. But I have read people that complained that they are way late in bringing out lines. I asked Ed last year and he told me they might not come out until mid-week or so. He couldn't tell me when they came out.Originally posted by T4TRUTH
You haven't taken any 300% bonus at 20X. The 300% bonus is 45X. They may report it as 20X but it is 45x of deposit. For this bonus, you deposit $800 and bet $36,000 to withdraw. There is no point in arguing that.
You aren't going to get NFL on a Sunday evening. You are clueless. Nobody but Bookmaker, BetOnline, 5Dimes and Heritage put out lines on a Sunday evening.
For those that are concerned, I don't think there is much to worry about in getting paid. There are other factors to take into consideration.
I really do not understand why you have such love for this book. OK, they have a nice bonus and Griffin will sweet talk you. I've got other priorities.Comment -
I do not have such love, I just get sick to read people talking stuff they do not know first hand and so misleading people, be it to the good or the bad , misleading people is the wrong wrong idea of having a forum. so thank you to clarify that you are only speaking of 2nd hand information and we will see, i will watch closely for football on sunday because i am pretty sure they have the lines available. but will email you or message you when that point comes about in septemeber.
Good luck with your future wagers for the upcoming season and hope we will joke next february on how much of a profit we can each turn..Comment -
I agree. That is why I have looked into a lot of this and point out the stuff that nobody else does. Much of what I have reported has been given me straight from 1Vice and is not second hand. I am just as interested in 1Vice as anyone else and actually more so since I have done the research and am happy to give them credit where it is due. But we also need some full disclosure on the pimping that goes on here.Originally posted by T4TRUTH
OK. I'll look forward to your telling me when 1Vice lines comes out. That something I am interested in as I may bet with them in the future.
Good luck to you as well. I appreciate your perspective.Comment -
What happens if you meet the rollover, get booted but are in one of their handicapping contests and win? lol thats what I wonder. In all seriousness though Griffin is a great guy after speaking to him. He doesn't want to take much risk but if you win you WILL get paid, I am confident in that.Comment
