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  • wtt0315
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-18-07
    • 8037

    #36
    Frustrating I agree, but I think they have handled this the best possible way they could. They are not the ones who made the attacks. Those are the people we should be angry with. I will continue to give them my support, because I do feel they are the best book for me and for Americans. I don't need every option under the sun to be happy. They have never failed me on a payout and have gone out of their way to make me happy. I can live with these growing pains even though i miss a lot of bets. I wish jon the best of luck getting this figured out. Hopefully they can find these people and cut their balls off and give them to sideloaded to play with.
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    • Betislands
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 03-17-11
      • 547

      #37
      Guys,

      Things will get better in the next 24 hours we are working around the clock , it is rather unfortunate that we have to deal with these attacks but it has become part of the industry again our banking remains intact and this should show people that tech issues does not translate into financial issues here at BI.

      Thank you all for your loyalty Betislands cares for its clients and we will do our best to make sure we will never be victim of an attack again.

      Everyone will be compensated for the hassle.

      Cheers!

      Jon
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      • Dark Horse
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-14-05
        • 13764

        #38
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        • Milk Money
          SBR High Roller
          • 01-12-11
          • 121

          #39
          Originally posted by Betislands
          Guys,

          Things will get better in the next 24 hours we are working around the clock , it is rather unfortunate that we have to deal with these attacks but it has become part of the industry again our banking remains intact and this should show people that tech issues does not translate into financial issues here at BI.

          Thank you all for your loyalty Betislands cares for its clients and we will do our best to make sure we will never be victim of an attack again.

          Everyone will be compensated for the hassle.

          Cheers!

          Jon
          Thanks. Never had a doubt.
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          • taxer
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 05-31-11
            • 630

            #40
            No other book in the industry does what Betislands ( Jon ) does , taking jabs from bettors when they are trying to help people should just back the fuk up and let them deal with the tech issues
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            • Speedy88
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-19-11
              • 11717

              #41
              Originally posted by Betislands
              Guys,

              Things will get better in the next 24 hours we are working around the clock , it is rather unfortunate that we have to deal with these attacks but it has become part of the industry again our banking remains intact and this should show people that tech issues does not translate into financial issues here at BI.

              Thank you all for your loyalty Betislands cares for its clients and we will do our best to make sure we will never be victim of an attack again.

              Everyone will be compensated for the hassle.

              Cheers!

              Jon
              Thanks Jon. I know you guys are trying your hardest to take care of the problems.
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              • brendon
                SBR Sharp
                • 12-10-09
                • 443

                #42
                these hackers, do they get serious jail time when they get caught?
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                • bogbat
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-21-10
                  • 1843

                  #43
                  A friend of mine was going to sign up today but he can't using the backup site. Is there a way around this or does he have to wait?
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                  • Rollins08
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-20-07
                    • 1337

                    #44
                    Betislands is still great. Payouts are the most important thing, and having CS that works with you is a huge help, if this happened at another book you wouldn't hear from them for weeks.
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                    • Ian
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-09-09
                      • 6033

                      #45
                      I'm an active bettor with Bet Islands and have received no communication from them whatsoever about this. If it wasn't for posts on SBR I would be totally lost as to what is going on. They need to do a much better job of keeping customers informed.
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                      • robmpink
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-09-07
                        • 13205

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Ian
                        I'm an active bettor with Bet Islands and have received no communication from them whatsoever about this. If it wasn't for posts on SBR I would be totally lost as to what is going on. They need to do a much better job of keeping customers informed.
                        Usually if the site isn't up you would call. Not depend on a forum.

                        Although reading much of the stuff is like a drama. Some villains. Some heroes. I don't mean to be a spoiler to the ending, but it turns out well for BI.
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                        • durito
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-03-06
                          • 13173

                          #47
                          Originally posted by brendon
                          these hackers, do they get serious jail time when they get caught?
                          who exactly is going to catch them?
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                          • brendon
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 12-10-09
                            • 443

                            #48
                            durito, i don't know much about computer and internet...that's why i asked.
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                            • brendon
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 12-10-09
                              • 443

                              #49
                              i own a business, this is no different than someone breaking into my business. i figured BI would contact authority
                              Last edited by brendon; 05-16-12, 03:46 AM. Reason: spelling
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                              • Kindred
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-09-08
                                • 2901

                                #50
                                Denial of service extortion attacks against sportsbooks is nothing new..all newbs to online gambling need to stop getting their panties in a bunch over this.
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                                • Frogger
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 04-17-10
                                  • 382

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by taxer
                                  No other book in the industry does what Betislands ( Jon ) does , taking jabs from bettors when they are trying to help people should just back the fuk up and let them deal with the tech issues
                                  No other book needs to change their website name 85 times either. You think Pinnacle, CRIS, 5dimes, Jazz, etc. don't get attacked? Difference is they have a system in place to prevent their sites from going down.
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                                  • Mikail
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-19-09
                                    • 21689

                                    #52
                                    I think someone from BI called me earlier today and I was unable to answer my phone. If anyone from BI can message me the mirror site I would be greatful.
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                                    • Dark Horse
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-14-05
                                      • 13764

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by brendon
                                      i own a business, this is no different than someone braking into my business. i figured BI would contact authority
                                      Which authority would that be? US?

                                      This is the kind of grey area where, in the good old days of Godfathers, people found alternative ways to justice. Not very pretty, but very effective.
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                                      • evo34
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-09-08
                                        • 1032

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by robmpink
                                        Usually if the site isn't up you would call. Not depend on a forum.

                                        Although reading much of the stuff is like a drama. Some villains. Some heroes. I don't mean to be a spoiler to the ending, but it turns out well for BI.

                                        Usually, a site would contact all of its clients via email if it had techinical issues for two weeks. Usually.

                                        P.S. Who exactly are the heroes in this narrative? Overcoming a DDOS attack is not heroic. It is the norm. And it hasn't even been accomplished yet.
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                                        • paco
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-07-09
                                          • 62873

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by brendon
                                          i own a business, this is no different than someone braking into my business. i figured BI would contact authority
                                          *breaking
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                                          • evo34
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-09-08
                                            • 1032

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Rollins08
                                            Betislands is still great. Payouts are the most important thing, and having CS that works with you is a huge help, if this happened at another book you wouldn't hear from them for weeks.
                                            Really? What books have had an impossibly-long DDOS attack and then disappeared for weeks? I guess it depends how you define "hearing from". If it's failing to notify all of your customers of the situation....I'd say BI is alone in this failure.
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                                            • MBENZ
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-07-07
                                              • 5238

                                              #57
                                              I don't know what constitutes an active player with these guys but I played everyday since September and still haven't gotten crap in the way of an email.I don't want a FP or anything else free,just want the ability to zero out or cash out through plays.I don't want to call and start the cycle of calls from them again so Jon can you PM the correct friggin site?TIA.
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                                              • wtt0315
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-18-07
                                                • 8037

                                                #58
                                                5 dimes was down last year for quite a while. Pinnacle was down last year for a day and half i believe. Carib was up and down for a few days. I never got a apology or anything from them nor did I expect it. Hell 5 dimes was having trouble just a couple months ago where I had trouble logging in for a week. They told me it works when it did not. You have to remember these sites are much larger then betislands and they were still down for a while even with their resources. It would be like if wal mart security went down and a smaller local place went down. Of course wal mart is going to get up faster.This is one of the dis advatanges of playing at a smaller book. The thing is the advantages outway the disadvantages in my eyes. If i have a problem I like to be able to talked to someone and they actually fix it instead of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. I also like being a person instead of a number. Its nice to call my book and talk to the reps and they ask me whats going on where I am and how I am doing. I am pretty sure heritage, 5 dimes employs a lot more employees then betislands and have more resources in that area. I think jon is doing everything possible to get it going again. It just seems a few people on here just can't wait for something to happen so they can pounce in threads and blow it up about how bad they are. If you feel a book is this bad, do you play there? I ouldnt play at a book I thought was that bad. And if I didnt play at a book I certanitly would not go into a thread about that book and blow it up. Anyways, These guys doing these attacks are the lowest of the low, but there really isnt much we can do but wait. Also if you arent getting emails from betislands check your spam box. I sometimes get emails from them and sometimes it goes in my spam.
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                                                • Ian
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-09-09
                                                  • 6033

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by robmpink
                                                  Usually if the site isn't up you would call. Not depend on a forum.
                                                  And usually you would get the number from the website, which is offline.
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                                                  • Ez Money 77
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-23-11
                                                    • 2585

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Ian
                                                    I'm an active bettor with Bet Islands and have received no communication from them whatsoever about this. If it wasn't for posts on SBR I would be totally lost as to what is going on. They need to do a much better job of keeping customers informed.
                                                    Originally posted by robmpink

                                                    Usually if the site isn't up you would call. Not depend on a forum.

                                                    Although reading much of the stuff is like a drama. Some villains. Some heroes. I don't mean to be a spoiler to the ending, but it turns out well for BI.
                                                    This guy is right. Serious if someone doesn't have SBR and tried to sign on, sure they would call when having trouble. Thing is half the time when u call right now u get a Verizon message saying the number has changed or been disconnected. If I called and heard that like two times, I would think they ran. I don't understand why there hasn't at least been a mass email to all clients to let them know of this. I have been a mad active client and didn't receive any emails yet about the new site. I really am trying not to have this phone number on my phone bill so I am gonna take a break from BI till this problem is fixed.
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                                                    • secretstash
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-29-10
                                                      • 14907

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Betislands
                                                      Pick I just yelled at Mia.

                                                      Thanks

                                                      Jon
                                                      pics please

                                                      -stash
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                                                      • CollegePro
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-23-09
                                                        • 4006

                                                        #62
                                                        trying to contact them past two days to make a deposit with no luck.. and of course no reply back either via email.. deposit the money somewhere else... let us know when everything is all set so i can make a deposit.
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                                                        • Betislands
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 03-17-11
                                                          • 547

                                                          #63
                                                          Hi College,

                                                          Please feel free to PM I just checked our emails and all of our emails have been responded or you can call us at the number 800-998-8740 posted by Lou.

                                                          Things will be back to normal very soon thank you all for understanding.

                                                          Jon
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                                                          • macb
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 08-01-10
                                                            • 126

                                                            #64
                                                            Jon, when things get to normal, are u going to get those new racebook rules posted ? Thanks !!
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                                                            • Dark Horse
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-14-05
                                                              • 13764

                                                              #65
                                                              Look past the short term to the long term. Whenever you evaluate a book, include a projection of what they'll be like a year or more from now. What type of problems are short term only, and what type of problems are likely to linger on for a long time? One key question is if they consider themselves first or players first. An example of a book where people put themselves first is betonline. They have a fantastic facility, and people saw that as a sign of financial strength. A high overhead was never factored into the 'official' evaluation. So now they've been slow-pay for a year and counting. I'm just making this up, but would it really surprise you if the cocaine habits at that office came before player payouts? Books such as Heritage and Betislands are players-first. This is not the same as good CS, although it will express like that as well. Rather, it is a willingness to view matters from the player's perspective at all times. Count that up among the long term fixtures, because it creates long term loyalty. It's the old story of the goose and the golden eggs. The players are the goose. The book is the farmer. The me-first book slowly eats the goose. The players-first book looks after the goose. Of course, the book does have to understand bookmaking, and Jon has already shown that with Wagerchief. There are a few books that are beyond the me-first or players-first categorization, but they are huge and basically the standard bearers of the offshore industry. Interestingly, Heritage recently left the very special niche it had carved out for itself, to turn itself in more of a general book, and possibly one of the few standard bearers. Perhaps the gap they left behind could be filled by a book with a similar outlook...
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                                                              • paco
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 05-07-09
                                                                • 62873

                                                                #66
                                                                Looks like the hackers figured out the private emailed backup site.
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                                                                • robmpink
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-09-07
                                                                  • 13205

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by paco
                                                                  Looks like the hackers figured out the private emailed backup site.
                                                                  Back up! Maybe we jumped the gun.

                                                                  down, now. At least we could call in some wagers.
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                                                                  • zoo youk
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-23-11
                                                                    • 10701

                                                                    #68
                                                                    more problems with betislands, cant log in now

                                                                    can access the site but not log in, anyone else experiencing this?
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                                                                    • Smoke
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 10-09-09
                                                                      • 48111

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Honestly I haven't been able to even access their mirror site lately. Taking my money elsewhere now I'm sick of this shit
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                                                                      • zoo youk
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 10-23-11
                                                                        • 10701

                                                                        #70
                                                                        the fawwkkkkkkkkkk
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