like i said, if you were asked who'd win 18 games and 2.91 era prior to the season, bumgarner wouldnt even be the first 3 or 4 names out of everyone's mouth.
Holy fukk he was serious when he wrote this.
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crustyme
SBR Posting Legend
09-29-10
16896
#77
says the retard who backed volquez over bumgarner.
buried.
lol
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CollegeOverUnder
SBR Hall of Famer
10-20-10
5520
#78
Originally posted by crustyme
im not selling bumgarner short. he's having a great season and worthy of some cy young votes if kershaw wasnt such a beast.
but to say 13 wins last season would translate to 18 wins & counting this season is ridiculous. even vogelsong went 13-7 2.71 era only couple seasons ago but only won 14 games the next season.
again, if you had to bet $1000 on which giants starter would win 18 games prior to the season, would you have put it all on bumgarner? of course not (if you were answering honestly).
dude who the fuk else would you have put it on on the Giants starting rotation. STFU and stop talking good god you tried using the amount of wins he had last year to compare how good he was. Why dont you take a look at his numbers vs the big bad LA Dodgers. How about we dont compare trash organizations like Texas and Colorado to the San Francisco Giants.
Would I seriously have put $1000 on Matt Cain, How about Tim Hudson, How about Ryan Vogelsong, How about Tim Lincecum? Who the hell would I have put it on. Buster Posey???? I mean I could of put it on Brandon Belt.
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Pauulzcappin
SBR Posting Legend
04-23-10
20295
#79
crusty looked real bad in this thread.
not worst than the guy who said kluber was a fluke, but still.
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steady hustlin
SBR Wise Guy
05-24-07
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#80
Lackey is a super lucky pitcher. Guthrie has been playing over his head too.
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crustyme
SBR Posting Legend
09-29-10
16896
#81
Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
crusty looked real bad in this thread.
not worst than the guy who said kluber was a fluke, but still.
ur a moron.
funny how none of u idiots can produce a single post prior to the season saying bumgarner would win 18 games and become a cy young candidate. not one.
of course the biggest idiot is twizzler who swore up and down that he knew all along bumgarner would have a great season then picked volquez over bumgarner in a 1 game elimination playoffs.
what a dumbfuk.
lol
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t-wizzle
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#82
Originally posted by crustyme
if someone said a giants pitcher would win 18 games and have 2.91 era at the start of the season, you would have guessed bumgarner?
his name would've been 4th or 5th on his own staff.
lol
What a dumbfukk.
lolololol
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crustyme
SBR Posting Legend
09-29-10
16896
#83
Originally posted by t-wizzle
You stupid fukk you said Bumgarner would've been the 4th or 5th name on his own staff.
Stupid smelly Mexican crusty
lol
here this retard says volquez is better than bumgarner.
tanner scheppers was opening day starter too... so i guess he's the ace of the rangers and not yu darvish?
ricky nolasco opening day starter... 5 wins and 5 era in 2014.
like i said, if you were asked who'd win 18 games and 2.91 era prior to the season, bumgarner wouldnt even be the first 3 or 4 names out of everyone's mouth.
What a fukking idiot.
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crustyme
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09-29-10
16896
#85
Originally posted by t-wizzle
Pirates ML +105 and Under 6.5 -105
Can't believe I'm doing this but backing Volquez the Volcano in a big spot. The Pirates are a better ballclub top to bottom. The Giants have the experience but this every other year B.S. ends tonight.
Pirates pull out a low-scoring battle in front of the home crowd and head to Washington.
only thing from pitt headed to washington was air india.
lololol
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t-wizzle
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#86
Originally posted by crustyme
there were 31 starting pitchers with more wins than him last season dumbfuk curry.
lol
Dumbfukk using "Wins" to determine how good a pitcher is. Wtf is this 1945?
Stupid smelly hindu.
lol
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crustyme
SBR Posting Legend
09-29-10
16896
#87
this dumbfuk hindu even made up his own stupid nickname for volquez.
giants & bumgarner erupted on "volquez the volcano" for 8 runs so i guess the dumbfuk was partially right afterall.
lolol
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t-wizzle
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#88
Originally posted by crustyme
im not selling bumgarner short. he's having a great season and worthy of some cy young votes if kershaw wasnt such a beast.
but to say 13 wins last season would translate to 18 wins & counting this season is ridiculous. even vogelsong went 13-7 2.71 era only couple seasons ago but only won 14 games the next season.
again, if you had to bet $1000 on which giants starter would win 18 games prior to the season, would you have put it all on bumgarner? of course not (if you were answering honestly).
Stupid smelly hindufukk.
Curryme.
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stevenash
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#89
Mike Fiers.
And Benny is right about Wade Davis, he's found his calling in KC, 8th inning set up guy, who can go 2 innings if he has to.
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crustyme
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09-29-10
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#90
Originally posted by t-wizzle
Dumbfukk using "Wins" to determine how good a pitcher is. Wtf is this 1945?
Stupid smelly hindu.
lol
ask ur pet camel who the smelly hindu is.
lol
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crustyme
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09-29-10
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#91
volquez the volcano
volquez is better than bumgarner
8-0 bumgarner
lolol
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t-wizzle
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#92
Originally posted by crustyme
8 pitchers won 13 games in 2013...... these same players have won avg of 10 games in 2014. a drop off of 3 wins per pitcher and 24 less total wins than the season before. sure, they have a start or two left to go but the fact is they have pitched worse than they have in the previous season.
like i said, it's ridiculous to try and correlate future performance on something as simple as how many games a pitcher won the previous season.
Wtf is this stupid fukk even trying to say.
Why the fukk is he using "Wins" to judge a pitcher.
Smelly hindu curryme stuck in the dark ages.
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No coincidences
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01-18-10
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#93
I am completely and utterly confused by some of the Bumgarner talk in this thread.
Not only is he an elite pitcher, he might be the best in baseball all things considered.
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t-wizzle
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#94
Originally posted by No coincidences
I am completely and utterly confused by some of the Bumgarner talk in this thread.
Not only is he an elite pitcher, he might be the best in baseball all things considered.
You went overboard but yes he's excellent.
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Pauulzcappin
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04-23-10
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#95
Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
crusty looked real bad in this thread.
not worst than the guy who said kluber was a fluke, but still.
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You mad bro
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01-15-12
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#96
Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
When does that smelly curry fukk ever not sound dumb
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No coincidences
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01-18-10
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#97
Originally posted by t-wizzle
You went overboard but yes he's excellent.
Dude, he's given up like 1 earned run in 30+ World Series innings or some freak stat like that. About to win a third title by the age of 25, and he's been the driving force behind all of them.
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t-wizzle
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#98
Originally posted by No coincidences
Dude, he's given up like 1 earned run in 30+ World Series innings or some freak stat like that. About to win a third title by the age of 25, and he's been the driving force behind all of them.
Then he would've won MVP the first two times.
He's really good. I don't think he's the best in baseball. Not trying to diminish him at all.
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No coincidences
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01-18-10
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#99
Originally posted by t-wizzle
Then he would've won MVP the first two times.
He's really good. I don't think he's the best in baseball. Not trying to diminish him at all.
Not necessarily. Only one pitcher has won the WS MVP since '03 -- Hamels in '08. He only got one start in '10 and '12, but completely dominated both times (15 IP, 5 H, 0 ER, 4 BB, 14 K).
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CollegeOverUnder
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10-20-10
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#100
Originally posted by t-wizzle
Then he would've won MVP the first two times.
He's really good. I don't think he's the best in baseball. Not trying to diminish him at all.
he's the most balanced and composed pitcher of all the pitchers in the MLB.
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CollegeOverUnder
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10-20-10
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#101
Originally posted by t-wizzle
You went overboard but yes he's excellent.
man MadBum is gonna have a fking book written about him and its gonna be titled MADBUM.
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Killer_Demo
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#102
Bumgarner is the best pitcher in baseball. He has another level of beast-mode come playoff time.
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Dollars2Donuts
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#103
Ok, somehow I got through this entire thread.....oh wait, I am drunk, that's how I managed to get through it.
First off, to Crusty.....Bum has been the best Giants pitcher for 3+ years and it isn't out of the question that anyone would pick him to lead them in wins this year. Not only is he a lefty, he pitches in a great ballpark for a lefty, AND he shows unbelievable resiliency.
Secondly, to those jumping on Crusty now....come on. This guy is pitching WAY above his career expectations. Look at Vogelsong....another guy with very good playoff runs.....and he has shit the bed. I do not believe anyone (other than maybe tatddy (a total homer, sorry tatddy)) would have thought he would be THIS GOOD. So, don't jump on the guy after this spectacular pitching performance has already happened.
I don't take sides.....even against guy like Crusty and Treeleaper (who have attacked me for my picks in the past). I think that the truth about Mad Bum lies somewhere in the middle. I think that he could become the next best thing.....but we all need to remember that guys like 'Big Game James' come and go....this is simple variance and will always happen. How many players become known as playoff guys and then shit the bed? It happens....sane with guys that are playoff flops....then all of a sudden breakout.
Guess what boys.....the playoffs are very short. 90% of the good and the bad can be blamed on variance....although I personally think Mad Bum supersedes variance here.
GL tomorrow boys....and Crusty....get rid of that nose ring....not cool.
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tatddy
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03-02-10
10779
#104
Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
Ok, somehow I got through this entire thread.....oh wait, I am drunk, that's how I managed to get through it.
First off, to Crusty.....Bum has been the best Giants pitcher for 3+ years and it isn't out of the question that anyone would pick him to lead them in wins this year. Not only is he a lefty, he pitches in a great ballpark for a lefty, AND he shows unbelievable resiliency.
Secondly, to those jumping on Crusty now....come on. This guy is pitching WAY above his career expectations. Look at Vogelsong....another guy with very good playoff runs.....and he has shit the bed. I do not believe anyone (other than maybe tatddy (a total homer, sorry tatddy)) would have thought he would be THIS GOOD. So, don't jump on the guy after this spectacular pitching performance has already happened.
I don't take sides.....even against guy like Crusty and Treeleaper (who have attacked me for my picks in the past). I think that the truth about Mad Bum lies somewhere in the middle. I think that he could become the next best thing.....but we all need to remember that guys like 'Big Game James' come and go....this is simple variance and will always happen. How many players become known as playoff guys and then shit the bed? It happens....sane with guys that are playoff flops....then all of a sudden breakout.
Guess what boys.....the playoffs are very short. 90% of the good and the bad can be blamed on variance....although I personally think Mad Bum supersedes variance here.
GL tomorrow boys....and Crusty....get rid of that nose ring....not cool.
Uhhh don't post drunk suhn. I'm the furthest thing from an SF homer you'll find here (talking about SF fans). I've always kept an even perspective. You can look at all my posts here the last 4 years you won't see blind SF backing.
I don't give a shitt about "greatest ever" or "greatest in the game". Waste of a debate in most cases, especially as it relates to debating different eras.