EP36's Tennis Talk

[shari91]

clement will not even lose a service game!

[Wilforth]

man the books had this one horribly wrong

No. The books got it right. It's those on Verdasco that got it wrong.

[EaglesPhan36]

Sorry ass 2nd set by Clement.

[noober]

horribles match.

both out of shape

[rumple]

What a disaster of a morning.

[EaglesPhan36]

Clement choked/ran out of gas plain and simple. Up a break in the 2nd, he hasn't won a game since.

[pavyracer]

Clement choked/ran out of gas plain and simple. Up a break in the 2nd, he hasn't won a game since.

They are playing tennis not running a triathlon. He tanked the game on purpose.

[EaglesPhan36]

You ever played tennis Pavy? You have to have tremendous endurance. If he was going to tank, he could have just lost in two easy sets. Fixed you could make an argument maybe, but doing this poorly for the last half of a match .... just poor endurance, mental attitude.

[noober]

100% agree with ep. poor endurance and mostly poor mental attitude.

[pavyracer]

You ever played tennis Pavy? You have to have tremendous endurance. If he was going to tank, he could have just lost in two easy sets. Fixed you could make an argument maybe, but doing this poorly for the last half of a match .... just poor endurance, mental attitude.

I played tennis it's not as hard on the body early in the week. If this was a final game and he had 4-5 games already in his feet in a short week I can see why he is gassed. But this guy can't get gassed after 1 hr of playing tennis after cruising before. Since he hasn't won a game after he got the lead in the 2nd set maybe he is injured and doesn't want to retire so that those on the fix betting Verdasco can cash their tickets.

[Mikail]

Total B.S That could be the bad beat of the week.

[shari91]

They are playing tennis not running a triathlon. He tanked the game on purpose.

Pavy, not even close. If you honestly believe that in this match, you either need to watch more tennis or learn what playing a tough match last night followed up by one the next day can do to your body. I've seen you make that comment before about tennis players and I've never bothered to dispute it but I've always disagreed. Clement tried his ass off in this match - he ran out of steam and got his ass whooped in the end by the better player on the day. There was no fixing or tanking involved. The guy is playing at home on Centre Court. The worst motivation for tanking/fixing and the worst possible scenario imaginable considering all of the attention Clement would have on him in this tournament.

Sometime's a bet's just a losing one, plain and simple.

[beefcake]

Rough morning EP, hope it improves for ya with the total..I played Matso small.

[EaglesPhan36]

I played tennis it's not as hard on the body early in the week. If this was a final game and he had 4-5 games already in his feet in a short week I can see why he is gassed. But this guy can't get gassed after 1 hr of playing tennis after cruising before. Since he hasn't won a game after he got the lead in the 2nd set maybe he is injured and doesn't want to retire so that those on the fix betting Verdasco can cash their tickets.

It's Novemeber, grinding through an eleven month season ... I think fatigue is very reasonable. Don't really care though, it's a loss. NEXT!

[Mikail]

It's Novemeber, grinding through an eleven month season ... I think fatigue is very reasonable. Don't really care though, it's a loss. NEXT!

Way to keep a good attitude after a tough loss. I have a feeling your about to go on a win streak. Good luck!

[EaglesPhan36]

was really hoping to split those dogs this morning at worst, but stuff happens.

[EaglesPhan36]

[KNOXVILLE CHALLENGER] MATOSEVIC -125
Aussie vs. Aussie as he takes on Guccione. Matosevic is definitely in better form this year. Guccione's serve will either keep him in the match or kill him. Matosevic is solid vs. lefties, 10-0 this year on the Challenger level including an August win over Guccione.

[slimpickins]

Your OVER 22.5 is going to cash.
Nice analysis on that match, you were dead on about each player dominating their own service

[EaglesPhan36]

Yeah slipped it in. I always get nervous on the last service hold needed to cash it. Seems like I have gotten screwed a lot on those last ones.

Challenger play will be cancelled. Matosevic withdrew.

[Yezzir]

I'm on Minar.

And Salamanca/Berlocq double.

Need these after a TERRIBLE day.

Had a Kohly/Stepanek/Nalbandian parlay, Kohli is on my banned list now, fukked me over loads.

Also had Clement single, where he just tanked.

Also Marchenko single, dominated.

[beefcake]

Dam all that good work on Mato and he pulls out...Oh well, he would have retired anyway and saved us $$

[EaglesPhan36]

[ACHEN CHALLENGER] RAM +140
Ram draws the talented Grigor Dimitrov on carpet. Ram is the defending champion here and Dimitrov is another guy who seems a bit worn out potentially at the end of a long season. The youngster also has just a handful of matches on this surface at 2-3. Ram also has only about a half dozen matches on the carpet, but is big serve was a huge difference maker here last year. The better serve wins today and that could be Ram.

[beefcake]

Can Boris Konkic play the role of Shabaz this week and knock off Ball at +900......Gotta love these local college kids who enter with nothing but ATP points to gain and experience

[EaglesPhan36]

I played some kid in Lexington from the University of Kentucky and he didn't do much. Sometimes worth a pop, sometimes they just get smashed.

[beefcake]

Yeah I remember that one..Ball should torch him though..A my wife says "Hes +900 for a reason"

[noober]

+900??? Where?

[Yezzir]

Fukking Salamanca.

[EaglesPhan36]

Oh Rajeev Ram! Wins 3-6, 7-6, 7-6.

[Yezzir]

Got on it after Ram won the 2nd set.

[noober]

Dimitrov was serving for it at 6-3 6-5

[beefcake]

Nice call on the Ram-man.. EP!

[EaglesPhan36]

Dimitrov was serving for it at 6-3 6-5

Yep and he was up in the 2nd set tie break too and the 3rd set tie break.

[EaglesPhan36]

[PARIS] MONACO-DJOKOVIC OVER 21 [-120]
Monaco has always been one of those under-rated guys in my mind when the scene switches to hard surfaces. He's often lumped into the South American contingent as a clay courter. His form since October certainly says otherwise with a semifinal run in Shanghai and a win over Murray in Valencia. He has few issues with Sam Querrey in his opener and should be able to keep the match with Djokovic tight if he serves well. Djokovic played well in Basel and smartly took some time off. He should be fresh, but much like last year here when the two played, he might let Monaco at least keep close long enough to push this total. Last year's ended 6-4, 7-5 Djokovic.

[PARIS] LJUBICIC +100
Think the quick surface in Paris will help the Old Man keep his service game short and sweet which is always good for him. Wawrinka scored his first win on this Paris indoor hard court in three tries with the win over Ouanna. He's been okay on the surface, but two of his last three wins came against a powerless Andreas Seppi whereas Ljubicic will pose a much stiffer challenge. Old Man River has also taken several weeks off prior to this event, so his legs will be about as fresh as possible at this stage. If he serves well from the get-go, I think it's his match to win.

[beefcake]

Love old man lubi..conkic gave ball a match it looks like but faded in the 3rd..

[beefcake]

Wow, does anyone have the balls to take Fog- Hat tomorrow? Does Ferrer have anything to play for this tourney after locking up a spot in London? Almost 7-1 !! The old faderade of a tourney winner..