Cornet V Giorgo - Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr WTF!
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matt1216SBR Posting Legend
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#36Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend
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#37this is why I like Verdasco today as wellComment -
frugalgamblerSBR MVP
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fitguy67SBR Hall of Famer
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#39
the main thing wrong with most of these sorts of "consensus %" figures is that they're generally based on % of the number of total bets in a market...not on % of the total $-value bet in that market...
the latter would be FAR more useful than the former (as markets are clearly not "one bettor/one vote" nor even "one bet/one vote"...they are a much different animal: "one dollar/one vote")...but the books of course do NOT release hard data on this, on purpose...but seem to be happy to release figures of questionable/self-serving "accuracy" on the far less useful/far more misleading former
noting "reverse line movement" (RLM) when price changes are going counter to changes in PUBLICIZED bet% is a feeble attempt to know when the BIG (assumedly smart) money bet by the handful of well-informed/well-capitalized goats is going on the opposite side of the majority of poorly-informed/low-capitalized sheep...
i suspect many such cases of obvious (to those who like to think of themselves as "sharp") RLM are "manufactured" or at least magnified to attract/"trap" RLM-chasers on the side desired by the books...whether to simply balance their books=reduce their risk or in keeping with their own profit-seeking risk-accepting "opinion" on the market...
compared to the books who actually HAVE the $-figures...even the sharpest of cats who try to ESTIMATE them based on information released by their enemy, the books...are, well...square as fukk...
perhaps even squarer than those of us who just ignore/suspect as manipulated bullshit all published consensus-% figures (and massagings thereof)...and choose instead to rely on the fundamentals of the matchup in relation to the market prices availableLast edited by fitguy67; 04-13-14, 03:05 PM.Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend
- 10-27-11
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#40Yes frugal, I understand. Did you know Giorgi mentally is about as fragile as wet paper bag? How do you not take cornet at + odds. Basic wagering. Cornets been close to a final indoor this year...Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend
- 10-27-11
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#41where did you get that figure, Matt...a rough guesstimate...or from a source?
the main thing wrong with most of these sorts of "consensus %" figures is that they're generally based on % of the number of total bets in a market...not on % of the total $-value bet in that market...
the latter would be FAR more useful than the former (as markets are clearly not "one bettor/one vote" nor even "one bet/one vote"...they are a much different animal: "one dollar/one vote")...but the books of course do NOT release hard data on this, on purpose...but seem to be happy to release figures of questionable/self-serving "accuracy" on the far less useful/far more misleading former
noting "reverse line movement" (RLM) when price changes are going counter to changes in PUBLICIZED bet% is a feeble attempt to know when the BIG (assumedly smart) money bet by the handful of well-informed/well-capitalized goats is going on the opposite side of the majority of poorly-informed/low-capitalized sheep...
i suspect many such cases of obvious (to those who like to think of themselves as "sharp") RLM are "manufactured" or at least magnified to attract/"trap" RLM-chasers on the side desired by the books...whether to simply balance their books=reduce their risk or in keeping with their own profit-seeking risk-accepting "opinion" on the market...
compared to the books who actually HAVE the $-figures...even the sharpest of cats who try to estimate them based on information released by their enemy, the books...are, well...square as fukkComment -
frugalgamblerSBR MVP
- 05-30-13
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#42I really do not think Cornet was ever a dog in this one: she opened as a fav and then the odds went to 50/50; but maybe I am wrong. Anyway, making statements that Cornet was an obvious play AFTER such an up-and-down match is just hilarious. I did not know you were such a jester. By the way, what happened to your thread ?Comment -
fitguy67SBR Hall of Famer
- 03-13-11
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#43
problem with all forums is the effective age of most participants is 13...they latch on to someone hot and call them god...then discard them like a used tissue after two consecutive losing days, denouncing their previous god as shit as they do...
long-term = lifetime of a their latest zit...
scrotum-licking lemmings to the new flavor of the month they just started tailing...and rude as fukk ungrateful pricks to whoever they've given up on and blame their 'hurtin' bankroll on...
i used to get worked up about crap like that...now just realize most people are stupid self-centred scum...but the exceptions make it all wothwhileLast edited by fitguy67; 04-13-14, 03:16 PM.Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend
- 10-27-11
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#44I really do not think Cornet was ever a dog in this one: she opened as a fav and then the odds went to 50/50; but maybe I am wrong. Anyway, making statements that Cornet was an obvious play AFTER such an up-and-down match is just hilarious. I did not know you were such a jester. By the way, what happened to your thread ?Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend
- 10-27-11
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#45...yes...then switch to another cliff as soon as someone else's ROI for the current month temporarily rises to the top of the heap (the kind of place well-suited to gentlemen like our friend addictedto)...problem with all forumss is the effective age of most participants is 13...they latch on to someone hot and call them god...then discard them like a used tissue after two consecutive losing days, denouncing their previous god as shit as they doComment -
frugalgamblerSBR MVP
- 05-30-13
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#47It would be too bad if you stopped posting your picks here; looks like a lot of good cappers are leaving lately. I hope you'll revive your thread at some point, just ignore the trolls. I still think your statement that Cornet was an obvious play is hilarious, regardless of your actual bet. I mean, Giorgi did have a MP. Congrats on Verdasco hit, no idea why his odds drifted from +135 to +160.Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend
- 10-27-11
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#48It would be too bad if you stopped posting your picks here; looks like a lot of good cappers are leaving lately. I hope you'll revive your thread at some point, just ignore the trolls. I still think your statement that Cornet was an obvious play is hilarious, regardless of your actual bet. I mean, Giorgi did have a MP. Congrats on Verdasco hit, no idea why his odds drifted from +135 to +160.
i havn't stopped posting. I was just posting way to many plays which is highly junior of myself. I'll be posting spot plays 1-2 a day at times if I feel its a great opportunityComment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend
- 10-27-11
- 14683
#49It would be too bad if you stopped posting your picks here; looks like a lot of good cappers are leaving lately. I hope you'll revive your thread at some point, just ignore the trolls. I still think your statement that Cornet was an obvious play is hilarious, regardless of your actual bet. I mean, Giorgi did have a MP. Congrats on Verdasco hit, no idea why his odds drifted from +135 to +160.Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend
- 10-27-11
- 14683
#50...yes...then switch to another cliff as soon as someone else's ROI for the current month temporarily rises to the top of the heap (the kind of place well-suited to gentlemen like our friend addictedto)...
problem with all forums is the effective age of most participants is 13...they latch on to someone hot and call them god...then discard them like a used tissue after two consecutive losing days, denouncing their previous god as shit as they do...
long-term = lifetime of a their latest zit...
scrotum-licking lemmings to the new flavor of the month they just started tailing...and rude as fukk ungrateful pricks to whoever they've given up on and blame their 'hurtin' bankroll on...
i used to get worked up about crap like that...now just realize most people are stupid self-centred scum...but the exceptions make it all wothwhileComment
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