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  • trade774
    SBR Rookie
    • 12-31-11
    • 7

    #1
    Sportsbook Online Error Allowed Bet While Game Being Played
    The online book I used had an error where it showed the start time of an NBA game as 9:42PM instead of the correct starting time of 9:12PM. This allowed me to place a bet on an NBA game up to 30 minutes after it had started. I placed during this window and lost.

    I expected the bet would be busted even if I had won but they are telling me it will not be. Now if I had won $5k, and a lot of other folks as well had hit them on the bet, I have a hard time believing that they would not bust that bet.

    What is standard practice in this situation; should it be busted?

    I think that if this occurred on the Super Bowl with one minute left in the game, and everyone maxed their book on the winning team, that the sportsbook would no doubt cancel all wagers. So with that being the case then canceling the wager would need to be applied to all situations where the game has already started but an error allows the bet to be booked; winners and losers.
    Last edited by trade774; 01-01-12, 12:08 AM.
  • 5mike5
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-21-11
    • 51865

    #2
    u tried to cheat the book and lost...be a win just if they give u the money back

    u cant expect to lose and get ur money back, what if the bet had won??

    no point in trying to cheat, or out-smart the book, just like a posted bad line, u wont win from either
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    • trade774
      SBR Rookie
      • 12-31-11
      • 7

      #3
      Thanks for the reply. So what are you saying; should it be busted?
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      • 5mike5
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-21-11
        • 51865

        #4
        to be honest buddy im really not sure what they will do, im just guessing its up to the specific book and the rules they keep in case these things happen...

        some1 here will be able to tell u more im sure

        GL
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        • Hareeba!
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 07-01-06
          • 36926

          #5
          Originally posted by trade774
          The online book I used had an error where it showed the start time of an NBA game as 9:42PM instead of the correct starting time of 9:12PM. This allowed me to place a bet on an NBA game up to 30 minutes after it had started. I placed during this window and lost.

          I expected the bet would be busted but they are telling me it will not be. Now if I had won $5k, and a lot of other folks as well had hit them on the bet, I have a hard time believing that they would not bust that bet.

          What is standard practice in this situation; should it be busted?
          It should be voided regardless of the outcome.

          But I'd have no sympathy for you if it isn't.

          Which book?
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          • trade774
            SBR Rookie
            • 12-31-11
            • 7

            #6
            It was placed on a smaller online book; www.2betab.com
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            • Hareeba!
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 07-01-06
              • 36926

              #7
              Originally posted by trade774
              It was placed on a smaller online book; www.2betab.com
              you could try filing a complaint through SBR
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              • mtneer1212
                SBR MVP
                • 06-22-08
                • 4993

                #8
                The bet should be cancelled either way.
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                • ehp6737
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-11-08
                  • 4185

                  #9
                  The bet should be voided either way. They would have had every right to cancel the bet if it was a winner, so all bets must be voided on this event. Otherwise, in essence the book becomes the shot taker. However, the problem here is that when you this sort of issue happens (past posting, bad line, etc.) usually it's the book that will bring it to the unsuspecting player's attention after the fact. I'm not sure how you would approach the book to point out that you want a refund on a game you knowingly bet on a half hour after it started. Good luck with that.
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                  • secretstash
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-29-10
                    • 14907

                    #10
                    quit taking shots. they free rolled u. lol its quite sick but u messed up.. shoulda bet 1st qtr line

                    -stash
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                    • ronald
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-31-05
                      • 4918

                      #11
                      You can never win placing a wager after the start time.

                      If you win, it will be canceled.

                      If you lose, it will stand.

                      That is the world of books.

                      KNOW THE START TIME.
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                      • Albert Pujols
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-01-10
                        • 1670

                        #12
                        LMAO. So you took a shot at the book and lost, and now you're saying that it wasn't fair for you? Get lost.
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                        • trade774
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 12-31-11
                          • 7

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Albert Pujols
                          LMAO. So you took a shot at the book and lost, and now you're saying that it wasn't fair for you? Get lost.
                          Albert Pujols, 'get lost'? Maybe you should be open minded and consider both sides of an issue before acting like a total ignorant prick. The sportsbook is the one running the business and they made the error on the wager offering. They would cancel the wager if it was a line mistake and they would certainly cancel if they lost the bet due to the game already being in play. The sportsbook is the one being a total crook here in trying to have it all ways. There should be a steadfast rule where they either pay these or cancel them; not pick and choose what pays them out. I would have no problem paying if I believed they would pay in the event that this bet had won, but I think we all know they would not. The sportsbook had a shot at my money on this wager but had no risk of having to pay me out if I had won; shame on them, not me.
                          Last edited by trade774; 01-01-12, 07:32 AM.
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                          • Santo
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-08-05
                            • 2957

                            #14
                            Originally posted by trade774
                            The sportsbook had a shot at my money on this wager but had no risk of having to pay me out if I had won; shame on them, not me.
                            So why did you make the wager?
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                            • trade774
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 12-31-11
                              • 7

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Santo
                              So why did you make the wager?
                              It does not matter. I could have made the wager to try and win money (which would not have happened as they would have busted a win). I could have made the wager to test if the online sportsbook really would take it while the game was in play. No matter why is totally irrelevant.

                              The hard fact that matters is what the steadfast rule would be; the sportsbook either pays in all cases of such an error (win or loss), or busts all bets. Obviously they would bust all bets if there was enough action and loss to the sportsbook so this should apply to all bets taken after start of game.
                              Last edited by trade774; 01-01-12, 10:05 AM.
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                              • Told You So!
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 10-06-09
                                • 656

                                #16
                                I once got an over/under for a 2nd half nba game at 4.5 I bet a trivial amount under $100 and Sportsbook.com let it stand lol.
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                                • Albert Pujols
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-01-10
                                  • 1670

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by trade774
                                  Albert Pujols, 'get lost'? Maybe you should be open minded and consider both sides of an issue before acting like a total ignorant prick. The sportsbook is the one running the business and they made the error on the wager offering. They would cancel the wager if it was a line mistake and they would certainly cancel if they lost the bet due to the game already being in play. The sportsbook is the one being a total crook here in trying to have it all ways. There should be a steadfast rule where they either pay these or cancel them; not pick and choose what pays them out. I would have no problem paying if I believed they would pay in the event that this bet had won, but I think we all know they would not. The sportsbook had a shot at my money on this wager but had no risk of having to pay me out if I had won; shame on them, not me.
                                  No. Shame on you. You're the one that made the bet and took the shot. Of course the book was going to void your win if they caught it. You lost and have no beef. Move on.
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                                  • Albert Pujols
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-01-10
                                    • 1670

                                    #18
                                    If you weren't taking a shot at the book, then how did you even know that you bet it late?
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                                    • wrongturn
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-06-06
                                      • 2228

                                      #19
                                      Next time, bet both sides, so you will know for sure what they will do. But you know the answer already, don't you?
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                                      • Santo
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-08-05
                                        • 2957

                                        #20
                                        Motive is never irrelevant.
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                                        • FourLengthsClear
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-29-10
                                          • 3808

                                          #21
                                          The bet should be voided and the better books would do exactly that. They would nonetheless warn you or close your account if there was any pattern of 'taking shots'.
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                                          • soccerkewl37
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 11-06-11
                                            • 134

                                            #22
                                            Reminds me of the time SIA had Wake Forest +107 pts in a CFB game. Put 100 on it thinking for sure it would be voided but I clearly hit that bet and got paid Oh yeah there live betting system has a glitch where you can take bets after you see things happen and before the lines close hint hint
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                                            • McFly86
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 01-15-11
                                              • 149

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                                              The bet should be voided and the better books would do exactly that. They would nonetheless warn you or close your account if there was any pattern of 'taking shots'.

                                              This. Obviously don't do this in the future, as a lot of books will be freerolling you, and you'll get banned etc.
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                                              • Justin7
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-31-06
                                                • 8577

                                                #24
                                                Win or lose, it should be voided. If there is nothing else to this dispute, that would be my recommendation.

                                                File a complaint, and we will try to help you.
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                                                • Santo
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-08-05
                                                  • 2957

                                                  #25
                                                  The bet should be void. The player should be banned.
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                                                  • trade774
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 12-31-11
                                                    • 7

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Santo
                                                    The bet should be void. The player should be banned.
                                                    "The player should be banned". That makes no sense. Why ban a player for a book's mistakes? Where in my post did I say I was taking an 'unethical' shot at the book? When I placed my bet I had no idea the game had started. My concern was a fair shot; that if I had won that this would payout.
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                                                    • trade774
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 12-31-11
                                                      • 7

                                                      #27
                                                      Thanks all for the replies and feedback. As a follow-up, I spoke to the person who runs this book and they stated they would have paid out if the bet won so I had no problem paying the loss. Like I said, my only concern was having a consistent outcome so that if this were to happen again in the future and I win the wager then I would expect to be paid out. Good luck all w/ Pats -7 vs Ravens (buy the half point just in case)..
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                                                      • skinnydan
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 01-15-12
                                                        • 5

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by trade774
                                                        It was placed on a smaller online book; www.2betab.com


                                                        Are u serious?? Betting after the official time is KNOWN CHEATING!! Doing such things will only provide you with losses; loose the money if you win the bet (it is voided), or loose the money if you loose the bet (for being a cheater!!!), and that is the end of the story.

                                                        I think they should not refund your money, as a past-posted bet is a straight attempt at stealing. You think a cop would let a crook go if he gets caught leaving the jewelry shop, and saying "But I did not take anything, I simply broke in to see 'em"?

                                                        Be smarter than that. It is adequate punishment for acting in such jerkly fashion.
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                                                        • FourLengthsClear
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-29-10
                                                          • 3808

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by trade774
                                                          Thanks all for the replies and feedback. As a follow-up, I spoke to the person who runs this book and they stated they would have paid out if the bet won so I had no problem paying the loss. Like I said, my only concern was having a consistent outcome so that if this were to happen again in the future and I win the wager then I would expect to be paid out. Good luck all w/ Pats -7 vs Ravens (buy the half point just in case)..
                                                          LOL.
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                                                          • kmarinouofm
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 8437

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by trade774
                                                            Albert Pujols, 'get lost'? Maybe you should be open minded and consider both sides of an issue before acting like a total ignorant prick. The sportsbook is the one running the business and they made the error on the wager offering. They would cancel the wager if it was a line mistake and they would certainly cancel if they lost the bet due to the game already being in play. The sportsbook is the one being a total crook here in trying to have it all ways. There should be a steadfast rule where they either pay these or cancel them; not pick and choose what pays them out. I would have no problem paying if I believed they would pay in the event that this bet had won, but I think we all know they would not. The sportsbook had a shot at my money on this wager but had no risk of having to pay me out if I had won; shame on them, not me.
                                                            People like u really piss me off...

                                                            You would have no problem loosing the bet if you knew they would pay if you won?

                                                            How will you ever know this dumb dumb?

                                                            Don't get high and mighty and say a good book this or a good book should do that..


                                                            You openly admitted to past posting. Anyone who is old school on this forum doesn't feel bad for you at all...

                                                            It is YOU who took the shot at the book my friend and it is you who lost

                                                            If you had won this bet. Would you have made a thread titled " I won a bet from past posting , should I give the money back? "

                                                            Of course not... You bought a ticket and it lost. Be a man. Take your medicine. And be lucky the book even keeps you as a customer. You have no business playing at a sports book
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                                                            • kmarinouofm
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 8437

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by trade774
                                                              "The player should be banned". That makes no sense. Why ban a player for a book's mistakes? Where in my post did I say I was taking an 'unethical' shot at the book? When I placed my bet I had no idea the game had started. My concern was a fair shot; that if I had won that this would payout.
                                                              Guy when ever do nba games start on the 42 min of any hour ?
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                                                              • wrongturn
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 06-06-06
                                                                • 2228

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by trade774
                                                                Thanks all for the replies and feedback. As a follow-up, I spoke to the person who runs this book and they stated they would have paid out if the bet won so I had no problem paying the loss. Like I said, my only concern was having a consistent outcome so that if this were to happen again in the future and I win the wager then I would expect to be paid out. Good luck all w/ Pats -7 vs Ravens (buy the half point just in case)..
                                                                Good you take his words seriously, but I dare you to take the same shot at him again when you see another 30 minutes gap game.
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                                                                • PharaohUB
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-23-07
                                                                  • 4865

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by kmarinouofm
                                                                  Guy when ever do nba games start on the 42 min of any hour ?
                                                                  Almost every night. 7PM games start at 712.. 730 at 742... 800 at 812... you get the point. It's almost without fail game will start within a minute or two of 12 past the hour or half hour.
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                                                                  • kmarinouofm
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 8437

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by PharaohUB

                                                                    Almost every night. 7PM games start at 712.. 730 at 742... 800 at 812... you get the point. It's almost without fail game will start within a minute or two of 12 past the hour or half hour.
                                                                    ehh.. 99% of books take the games off at 5 past the time.. because that is usually when it starts.. and sometimes its not even on that long because they do start on time...
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                                                                    • BigDaddy
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-01-06
                                                                      • 8378

                                                                      #35
                                                                      a 7:05 pm game starts at about 7:12 etc....

                                                                      ESPN games tend to start on time

                                                                      so a 8:05 ESPN game the line usually comes down faster than other games

                                                                      TNT games stay on the board later than any other games most of the time


                                                                      people that bet NBA daily know this type of stuff.



                                                                      all sports are different

                                                                      baseball if it says 1:05 PM you better get your bet in before 1:05 PM

                                                                      football is also different.
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