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  • Nikfrio
    SBR Sharp
    • 04-16-11
    • 261

    #106
    They are only seizing the domains..big difference
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    • rake922
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-23-07
      • 11692

      #107
      Originally posted by Smoke
      SBR says "business as usual"

      Wonder why

      Imagine if we all cashed out from all our books, not good for sbr

      The fact is this isn't the end. More books due to get seized. Game over. Goin back to a local
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      • Grandmaster B
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-05-09
        • 6035

        #108
        Originally posted by YorkHunt
        I have a good contact in the VIP section, he said the only thing seized was the domain names. He said by reports the banks that were seized were just for cards. They work with tons of banks. Outgoing payments are still good! Incoming deposits are still honored! No delay in payments.

        Scum bags set up a fake processor and nailed them....Doesnt our govt. have a deficit to worry about??
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        • Garbage Time Fan
          SBR Rookie
          • 02-20-09
          • 35

          #109
          They are only seizing the domains..big difference
          ...without any authority. No international treaty gives Homeland security the right to do this.
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          • firehoyt
            SBR MVP
            • 12-02-10
            • 3569

            #110
            Any idea if diamond has an alternate site set up?! If u know it, will you PM me?
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            • d2bets
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 08-10-05
              • 39995

              #111
              Originally posted by justonetime
              www.bookmaker.com now showing the seized page.
              Mine went thru just now ok, except bookmaker itself had a little popup that said to use the new domain and update bookmarks.
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              • fury
                Restricted User
                • 02-20-10
                • 1651

                #112
                Originally posted by YorkHunt
                No delay in payments.

                We're talking about Bookmaker here. This wasn't true even before the seizure.
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                • cant call it
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-29-10
                  • 8817

                  #113
                  gonna use a local. who knows one around auburn?
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                  • sjm5122
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-22-08
                    • 4213

                    #114
                    If I can't gamble online, how will I bet on soccer...
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                    • firehoyt
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-02-10
                      • 3569

                      #115
                      Originally posted by cant call it
                      gonna use a local. who knows one around auburn?

                      Hey. Hit me up on PM.
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                      • firehoyt
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-02-10
                        • 3569

                        #116
                        And FYI. Don't think I can post the link here but DSI's new site is the same as the old one but take out the number 2!
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                        • Nats' Fan
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-30-10
                          • 3057

                          #117
                          Just spoke with someone at Bookmaker. Assured me my money is safe, and it's business as usual. Hope This true.
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                          • Nikfrio
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 04-16-11
                            • 261

                            #118
                            Reminds me how they seized Atdhe.net a few months ago. For those who don't know what this is, it's a site where live events are being streamed for free for everyone to see. A few days later the Atdhe guys just changed their domain to a non-American and the site is running smoothly now with no problems There is absolutely nothing the government can do else except seize domains! If they go deep deep they would freeze bank accounts and processors but most offshore books have now eliminated direct/*************** deposit/withdraw methods just because of this. What else can they do??? Give it a few months and things will cool down AGAIN
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                            • Garbage Time Fan
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 02-20-09
                              • 35

                              #119
                              There is absolutely nothing the government can do else except seize domains!
                              not unless they are breaking the law. Homeland Security has NO authorization to seize domains. there is no treaty giving them rights that ICANN currently has.
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                              • fury
                                Restricted User
                                • 02-20-10
                                • 1651

                                #120
                                Originally posted by Nikfrio
                                Reminds me how they seized Atdhe.net a few months ago. For those who don't know what this is, it's a site where live events are being streamed for free for everyone to see. A few days later the Atdhe guys just changed their domain to a non-American and the site is running smoothly now with no problems There is absolutely nothing the government can do else except seize domains! If they go deep deep they would freeze bank accounts and processors but most offshore books have now eliminated direct/*************** deposit/withdraw methods just because of this. What else can they do??? Give it a few months and things will cool down AGAIN
                                Yep. Lotta people overreacting. Bookmaker will be fine.
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                                • BobHarvey
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-08-08
                                  • 3987

                                  #121
                                  www.bookmaker.com worked fine for me... but I'm curious what lies ahead.

                                  I also continue to use 5dimes without a problem.
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                                  • Handjuice
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 05-11-10
                                    • 329

                                    #122
                                    i hope somebody shoots the scumbags in gov't who are responsible for this B.S.
                                    "Real fight don't start till round 13, in round thriteen ya asshole locks up, ya balls get tight, and ya don't wanna go another second, that's when the real fight starts"- Mike Mccalum
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                                    • MichaelWaters
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 05-19-11
                                      • 1525

                                      #123
                                      will be at least 8 months until bookmaker stops paying. they wont even slow-pay for months, they will claim to be as strong as ever this month. still about a year left in the online industy. the USgov will make a few thousand of their elite buddies millionaires overnight with the new US based books that come out. lines will be -120, no bonuses, no way to win.
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                                      • Nats' Fan
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-30-10
                                        • 3057

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by Garbage Time Fan
                                        not unless they are breaking the law. Homeland Security has NO authorization to seize domains. there is no treaty giving them rights that ICANN currently has.
                                        In case you haven't noticed, the U.S. does whatever they want to do. Who's to stop them.
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                                        • Grandmaster B
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-05-09
                                          • 6035

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by MichaelWaters
                                          will be at least 8 months until bookmaker stops paying. they wont even slow-pay for months, they will claim to be as strong as ever this month. still about a year left in the online industy. the USgov will make a few thousand of their elite buddies millionaires overnight with the new US based books that come out. lines will be -120, no bonuses, no way to win.
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                                          • Grandmaster B
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-05-09
                                            • 6035

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by Nats' Fan
                                            In case you haven't noticed, the U.S. does whatever they want to do. Who's to stop them.
                                            Nobody to date
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                                            • Garbage Time Fan
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 02-20-09
                                              • 35

                                              #127
                                              it is up for players to stand up to this. use the Internet while you still can.
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                                              • Nats' Fan
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-30-10
                                                • 3057

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by Grandmaster B
                                                Nobody to date
                                                Yep. I'm a proud American but sometimes our Country does overstep its bounds. We have more important shit to worry about.
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                                                • nyplayer33
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 09-27-06
                                                  • 8303

                                                  #129
                                                  again im noticing a link between these sites and poker
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                                                  • Doc JS
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-15-06
                                                    • 6885

                                                    #130
                                                    FWIW, I just placed a bet on DSI...

                                                    Doc
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                                                    • dinaro7
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 12-06-09
                                                      • 888

                                                      #131
                                                      what happened to my last post
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                                                      • relaaxx
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-15-06
                                                        • 3281

                                                        #132
                                                        www.bmaker.ag---works. was told that betmaker will be up with alt adresss in 24 hours. still logged in to betmaker from a few hours ago. cannot log in to them now. still able to place bets, they of course are assuring on the phone. every thing will be back to normal. we will see. when matchbook left i should have cashed out. hard to give up something like this. been doing this many years. like watching a friend lose a battle with a terminal illness. hope he makes a recovery. but,i doubt it.
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                                                        • Ninersnut
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-20-10
                                                          • 3730

                                                          #133
                                                          Geeezzzussss didn't know we had so many international law scholars in here. Really people are commenting on the legality of this? Like you ppl have a fukkin clue. Read the affidavit it clearly states since gambling was taking place in MD and funds transferred to MD that they have the right to seize those accounts. It states due to probable cause (stating a previous case) they have come to the conclusion that the processors and sites were violating a law involving online gambling and money laundering. Bookmaker has the right to move it's server and domain name to something different but as long as they continue to fukk with US players the Govt basically said we know what your doing.

                                                          If BM/Cris wants to continue this lil game the Govt is going to win until Cris decides to shut down its US customer base. Consider this a slap on the head for BM why they can still process payouts and deposits they will slowly pull the plug on the US players stating that "there are no deposit/payout options". If they want to get around it your gonna have to jump through hoops to get $ in and out of the books.
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                                                          • konck
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 10-17-06
                                                            • 12554

                                                            #134
                                                            Oh I think Dandy Don has come back to life

                                                            TURN OUT THE LIGHTS THE PARTY IS OVER.......SING IT ONE MORE TIME DANNY BOY
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                                                            • YorkHunt
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 12-11-10
                                                              • 7496

                                                              #135
                                                              Niners are you a lawyer?
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                                                              • Garbage Time Fan
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 02-20-09
                                                                • 35

                                                                #136
                                                                Read the affidavit it clearly states since gambling was taking place in MD and funds transferred to MD that they have the right to seize those accounts.
                                                                Oh, so an affidavit gives them the authority to violate the treaty that formed ICANN. An affidavit gives them the right to nullify Article VI of the US Constitution.

                                                                my point is this is illegal. It should be of great concern to players here.
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                                                                • Ninersnut
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-20-10
                                                                  • 3730

                                                                  #137
                                                                  No sir.....I'm just saying it seems pretty cut and dry. They have a CI deposit $500 onto a few sites gamble a bit, withdraw and nail the site/processor. BM or anyone for that matter will never be able to stop from getting set up time after time. This is a little slap basically saying get out of the US. BM will have a good poker face but follow suit. It's not worth the legal fees to realize when the game is over already.
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                                                                  • relaaxx
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 06-15-06
                                                                    • 3281

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by Nats' Fan
                                                                    Yep. I'm a proud American but sometimes our Country does overstep its bounds. We have more important shit to worry about.

                                                                    what are you still proud of. i haven't been proud of anything we have done anywhere in years, many years. we are just the biggest bully on the block. nothing to be proud of. belive me i want to proud to be an american. as i once was. but anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see how much worse we treat our own that are in need,compared to years ago. never mind how our government treats others. either situation-----our leadrers are assholes. and we have to take responibility for putting them there.
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                                                                    • Wiggums5
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-05-10
                                                                      • 2409

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by Ninersnut
                                                                      No sir.....I'm just saying it seems pretty cut and dry. They have a CI deposit $500 onto a few sites gamble a bit, withdraw and nail the site/processor. BM or anyone for that matter will never be able to stop from getting set up time after time. This is a little slap basically saying get out of the US. BM will have a good poker face but follow suit. It's not worth the legal fees to realize when the game is over already.
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                                                                      • Ninersnut
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 05-20-10
                                                                        • 3730

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by Garbage Time Fan
                                                                        Oh, so an affidavit gives them the authority to violate the treaty that formed ICANN. An affidavit gives them the right to nullify Article VI of the US Constitution. my point is this is illegal. It should be of great concern to players here.
                                                                        To think a 3rd world government () will even give a shit about fighting this on behalf of the books in laughable. Usually these countries main revenue source is either some sort of farming or tourism. I'm sure the online bookmaking scene isn't doing anything but giving them headaches, especially since most arent even regulated.
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