Betmaker Review - In progress

**QQPALLADIUM** · 11-11-11, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

I did respond and we dealt with that issue. I'm over it even if you're not.

Beyond the obvious, what is your excuse for not justifying your statement that I've claimed to be a big winner?

How many more times must I ask you to do so?

Stop bringing up irrelevances from the past and just show where I ever made such a statement.

The longer you stall on it the more obvious it is to everyone that you just plucked that one out of the air as you have with so many other statements you've incorrectly attributed to me and others.

let's put this to bed...hareeba is not claiming to be a big winner $$$ wise...but he does win at posting....so he does have that going for him.

**todd73nj** · 11-12-11, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

I did respond and we dealt with that issue. I'm over it even if you're not. Beyond the obvious, what is your excuse for not justifying your statement that I've claimed to be a big winner? How many more times must I ask you to do so? Stop bringing up irrelevances from the past and just show where I ever made such a statement. The longer you stall on it the more obvious it is to everyone that you just plucked that one out of the air as you have with so many other statements you've incorrectly attributed to me and others.

Yes, you responded with more of your word of mouth. Not a single link to a single issue

Not one. Pretty comical stuff.

Plenty of other threads for you to seacrh about MB where you and the other winners can agree with each other. Plus you hate the American Govt so much, why do you continue to bother in a thread of almost all Americans? lol

**Hareeba!** · 11-12-11, 02:54 AM

Ok, Todd's had numerous chances and has failed utterly to support his statement that I have claimed to be a big winner.

He's repeated that statement several times but not once even attempted to demonstrate where I've made any such claim.

So there can remains no doubt at all that Todd is a liar.

In fact he's made other false claims about statements I and others have made too.

**todd73nj** · 11-13-11, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Ok, Todd's had numerous chances and has failed utterly to support his statement that I have claimed to be a big winner.

He's repeated that statement several times but not once even attempted to demonstrate where I've made any such claim.

So there can remains no doubt at all that Todd is a liar.

In fact he's made other false claims about statements I and others have made too.

Yes Im a liar. One of the few guys who doesnt claim to be a winner. Hmm.. so does that mean when I say I dont make much money - does that mean Im really a big winner? Bigger than guys like Hareeba, Relax and Dome-r? Interesting point you bring up, Hareeba.

**Hareeba!** · 11-13-11, 04:12 AM

Originally posted by todd73nj

Yes Im a liar. One of the few guys who doesnt claim to be a winner. Hmm.. so does that mean when I say I dont make much money - does that mean Im really a big winner? Bigger than guys like Hareeba, Relax and Dome-r? Interesting point you bring up, Hareeba.

Once again responding with total irrelevance to a very simple request.

I don't care in the slightest if you are a big winner or even a winner at all.

All I have been asking is for you to prove your statement that I have claimed to be a big winner. Nothing else is relevant to this issue.

You can't do it. Because I haven't ever made such a claim.

Yet you continue to say I have.

Until you prove your point you remain condemned as a liar and anything else you have posted must also be regarded with deep suspicion. Your credibility is diminishing each day you continue with this lie.

**QQPALLADIUM** · 11-13-11, 01:53 PM

isn't it funny how he can't defend mb and their lack of college hoops???

**Hareeba!** · 11-13-11, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM

isn't it funny how he can't defend mb and their lack of college hoops???

perhaps one day you will actually post something of relevance

nah! I don't think so

**QQPALLADIUM** · 11-13-11, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

perhaps one day you will actually post something of relevance

nah! I don't think so

well you talk so highly of mb...i guess college basketball is not a big sport to you like college football....

**Hareeba!** · 11-13-11, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM

well you talk so highly of mb...i guess college basketball is not a big sport to you like college football....

you talk too much but read/comprehend too little

in this thread my sole references to MB have been how I've found it possible more often than not to get set for as much as I like at better odds than I can get anywhere else despite Todd and you failing to believe me (a fact which I couldn't care less about except for the fact that you are misleading innocent punters)

but this is all old stuff which I'm sure everyone is bored shitless with and has absolutely nothing to do with my demand that Todd supports his baseless statement with facts or does the honourable thing - something as likely as you ever contributing anything worthwhile to anything

**QQPALLADIUM** · 11-13-11, 06:45 PM

how do you get the best odds if there ain't none?

**Hareeba!** · 11-13-11, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM

how do you get the best odds if there ain't none?

as I keep pointing out , you just have no capacity for reading or comprehension

there can be no other explanation for the dumb things you post

**QQPALLADIUM** · 11-13-11, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by hareeba!

as i keep pointing out , you just have no capacity for reading or comprehension

there can be no other explanation for the dumb things you post

i win again. You can't tell me why matchbook doesn't have college basketball lines.

**Hareeba!** · 11-13-11, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM

i win again. You can't tell me why matchbook doesn't have college basketball lines.

WTF???

Why is it up to me to tell you anything about that issue?

Absolute zero relevance to anything I've ever talked about.

Has that got anything to do with why Todd keeps saying I've claimed to be a big winner?

Can you tell me how much revenue Julia Gillard's carbon tax is going to raise and how much contribution it is going to make to the reduction of "global warming"? If not, why not?

**QQPALLADIUM** · 11-13-11, 08:58 PM

ok great so by not answering you admit that matchbook sucks.

**Hareeba!** · 11-13-11, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM

ok great so by not answering you admit that matchbook sucks.

Not only is your ability to read and comprehend seriously deficient but this latest exchange suggests your capacity for logical deduction is even more so.

oh, and btw, does Betmaker offer markets on school cricket, let alone Sheffield Shield?
guess that means they must suck too?

**QQPALLADIUM** · 11-13-11, 10:04 PM

never have i ever said anything about betmaker

but i do know for a fact there is zero liquidity at matchbook on ncaab.

i win again aussie sandusky

**Hareeba!** · 11-13-11, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM

never have i ever said anything about betmaker

but i do know for a fact there is zero liquidity at matchbook on ncaab.

i win again aussie sandusky

heaven knows what you think you've won

If you had half a clue you'd realise I was simply using your logic to come to an equally absurd conclusion

And never have I ever cared less about what college sports any book or exchange offers - utterly no relevance to any points I've been making and particularly Todd's continual lie about me having claimed to be a big winner.

**todd73nj** · 11-14-11, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Once again responding with total irrelevance to a very simple request.

I don't care in the slightest if you are a big winner or even a winner at all.

All I have been asking is for you to prove your statement that I have claimed to be a big winner. Nothing else is relevant to this issue.

You can't do it. Because I haven't ever made such a claim.

Yet you continue to say I have.

Until you prove your point you remain condemned as a liar and anything else you have posted must also be regarded with deep suspicion. Your credibility is diminishing each day you continue with this lie.

Once again, all you do is ask for proof, when you dont need to provide any. Prove me the link to my original question to you, and I will then provide the link about how much money you make at matchbook.

**Hareeba!** · 11-14-11, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by todd73nj

Once again, all you do is ask for proof, when you dont need to provide any. Prove me the link to my original question to you, and I will then provide the link about how much money you make at matchbook.

We had already dealt with all your over the top proof requirements weeks ago and then last week you came up with your utterly false statement about me claiming to be a big winner.

I am prepared to provide any reasonable proof of any and everything every bet I've posted in this thread which you have called as lies if you can only show me where I ever made such a statement as you claim.

I'll send copies of my betting and bank accounts proving everything I've ever posted to Justin, Shari or any other moderator if they are prepared to accept them. In return I demand your apology for repeatedly calling me a liar.

I know you won't be able to come up with it because it doesn't exist. Therefore I demand your retraction and apology.

**brettels** · 11-14-11, 02:31 AM

**QQPALLADIUM** · 11-14-11, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

heaven knows what you think you've won

If you had half a clue you'd realise I was simply using your logic to come to an equally absurd conclusion

And never have I ever cared less about what college sports any book or exchange offers - utterly no relevance to any points I've been making and particularly Todd's continual lie about me having claimed to be a big winner.

2 of the 5 major sports he could care less off...maybe he liked the sandusky over.

**Hareeba!** · 11-14-11, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM

2 of the 5 major sports he could care less off...maybe he liked the sandusky over.

you wouldn't even know what the 5 major betting sports are

**QQPALLADIUM** · 11-14-11, 06:31 PM

it is so funny how you are on an american website but all you do is talk about international sports...do they not have an sbr type site for you to troll down under?

**Hareeba!** · 11-14-11, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM

it is so funny how you are on an american website but all you do is talk about international sports...do they not have an sbr type site for you to troll down under?

I note that you conveniently avoided the question.

As the subject we were discussing was Mathbook it would seem pretty dumb to restrict one's thinking to US sports only when they don't have US resident players.

**todd73nj** · 11-15-11, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM

it is so funny how you are on an american website but all you do is talk about international sports...do they not have an sbr type site for you to troll down under?

Whats even funnier - if you watch the MB markets on these sports - the same blocks will be available now as 5 mins before the game. But Hareeba finds a way to make his money. Telepathic trading?

**Hareeba!** · 11-15-11, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by todd73nj

Whats even funnier - if you watch the MB markets on these sports - the same blocks will be available now as 5 mins before the game. But Hareeba finds a way to make his money. Telepathic trading?

Calling me a liar again?

Earlier in this thread I listed several bets I made at MB.

Pick any or all of them and when I prove to you that they are real I expect to see your $50,000.

Otherwise STFU.

**QQPALLADIUM** · 11-15-11, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Calling me a liar again?

Earlier in this thread I listed several bets I made at MB.

Pick any or all of them and when I prove to you that they are real I expect to see your $50,000.

Otherwise STFU.

i finally get it...hareeba was in the Second Kilometer program in Australia...makes sense now...

**todd73nj** · 11-16-11, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Calling me a liar again?

Earlier in this thread I listed several bets I made at MB.

Pick any or all of them and when I prove to you that they are real I expect to see your $50,000.

Otherwise STFU.

You expect to see my 50,000 what? You want a screenshot of $50,000 in singles on my computer desk or something??

Ive asked you to do something as simple as screenshot the prices you claim to see at MB 100 times. But you said its too much work.

**IrishStoner** · 11-16-11, 01:26 AM

Hows betmaker these days?

**offshoregenius77** · 11-16-11, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by IrishStoner

Hows betmaker these days?

Well I bet college hoops and they are sucking wind right now. As an american with no pinny access Ive had to go off the grid with two smaller establishments, one a small exchange and the other a small (but strong) book that shadows pinny's lines. Betmaker is dead though.....

OG

**todd73nj** · 11-17-11, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by IrishStoner

Hows betmaker these days?

Live betting has been great. Best we have had since TradeSports.

NFL has been very solid imo. Cant complain.

If Betmaker is dead, MB was really dead.

**offshoregenius77** · 11-17-11, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by todd73nj

Live betting has been great. Best we have had since TradeSports.

NFL has been very solid imo. Cant complain.

If Betmaker is dead, MB was really dead.

They have like $160 matched in college hoops today, with crazy wide spreads ... About 30 games.... $2,500 so far in point spreads for broncos game. I would call that pretty darn dead my friend. But I guess its all relative.......

Im stuck in there for a 3x rollover and cant get any money down at decent prices. But thats a me problem

**todd73nj** · 11-18-11, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by offshoregenius77

They have like $160 matched in college hoops today, with crazy wide spreads ... About 30 games.... $2,500 so far in point spreads for broncos game. I would call that pretty darn dead my friend. But I guess its all relative.......

Im stuck in there for a 3x rollover and cant get any money down at decent prices. But thats a me problem

College hoops? That started? Didnt even realize it. Guess there is no MMer for it. There was last year. So Im sure there will be at some point.

Do you care to post the ingame volume for tonight? Or do you pick and choose the volumes you post?

Bec if you ask any of the MB guys - all the volume comes before the game. Not at 6pm.

**offshoregenius77** · 11-18-11, 11:06 AM

I traded quite a few dollars on MB and there was much more liquidity in college hoops (even morning of the games), and much tighter spreads in NFL. But, hey we will see how it goes. It doesnt look good from my end so far.....

**todd73nj** · 11-19-11, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by offshoregenius77

I traded quite a few dollars on MB and there was much more liquidity in college hoops (even morning of the games), and much tighter spreads in NFL. But, hey we will see how it goes. It doesnt look good from my end so far.....

Im not sure what you were betting, but you can even ask a complete shill like Hareeba, but there were not even lines posted last year on College basketball - they didnt bother. And he will come back and say he doesnt care about NCAA hoops. But they had nothing last year.

If you are talking about the MB of 3 years ago - different story. But that MB was dead and gone long before the sale.