[jjgold]

Anyone know?

[seymour]

SIA - monster limits - early lines - big parlay payouts

[Scorpion]

mausolot

[kiwi]

Anyone know?

Good question. It depends on what is important for you:

In my opinion still 'Sport Bookie Online' (S B O B E T) is alltogether the most useful asian online sportsbook (with great live betting, and many asian lines per game, also half time bets).

More easy to use are 188Bet and Mansion88 as they accept Moneybookers and/or Neteller.

Then there are books like Canbet/IASBET or also Bet1128 which copy lines of original asian books (Canbet from S B O B E T and Bet1128 from IBCBET). The advantage (at least in the case of Canbet) is that they are known to be solid and pay. The disadvantage is that they offer less lines then the real asian books.

Finally also books like Pinnacle and even TheGreek have more asian soccer lines with higher limits than before, even if their offer is still not as good as the offer of real asian books and the limits are lower. But I think especially Pinnacle has improved recently.

[kiwi]

mausolot

Do you mean Macauslot?
They are not recommendable in my opinion.

[pokernut9999]

Actually these 2 comic books are the hottest selling books in Asia right now. "Hating the Korean Wave" and "Introduction to China" hope this helps JJ !!!

[Scorpion]

Good question. It depends on what is important for you:

In my opinion still 'Sport Bookie Online' (S B O B E T) is alltogether the most useful asian online sportsbook (with great live betting, and many asian lines per game, also half time bets).

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Their software reminds me of Easybets.com

How is www.ysb88.com??

[bigboydan]

How is www.ysb88.com??

Their part of BetonSports Plc family of books, so that should pretty much tell you what they are like based on the previous history IMO Scorpion.

[bigboydan]

Good question. It depends on what is important for you:

In my opinion still 'Sport Bookie Online' (S B O B E T) is alltogether the most useful asian online sportsbook (with great live betting, and many asian lines per game, also half time bets).

More easy to use are 188Bet and Mansion88 as they accept Moneybookers and/or Neteller.

Then there are books like Canbet/IASBET or also Bet1128 which copy lines of original asian books (Canbet from S B O B E T and Bet1128 from IBCBET). The advantage (at least in the case of Canbet) is that they are known to be solid and pay. The disadvantage is that they offer less lines then the real asian books.

Finally also books like Pinnacle and even TheGreek have more asian soccer lines with higher limits than before, even if their offer is still not as good as the offer of real asian books and the limits are lower. But I think especially Pinnacle has improved recently.

Where would you rank BetFair or Samvo on your list Kiwi?

[pavyracer]

Anyone know?

betpingpong.com

[mad]

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[Scorpion]

Where would you rank BetFair or Samvo on your list Kiwi?

How can signup to play samvo?
http://www.samvo.com/b1.html
no lines, nothing

[Dark Horse]

BetPhoenix has a lot of Asian action.

[Spike Spiegel]

Too risky to play at asian books imho. Even the big ones already disappeared with customers money. Also the agent system for depositing is dubious. Better stay away...

From current asian books SBO looks the best to me (best references) but still I wouldn´t risk to play there.

[kiwi]

Where would you rank BetFair or Samvo on your list Kiwi?

Of course Betfair is very good. But JJ asked for asian books. Concerning asian handicap betting Betfair has nothing to offer as these markets don't have liquidity. Especially since Betfair raised the commission for AH bets from 1% to the normal 5%.

The best exchange for asian handicap soccer betting is Betdaq. At the moment the commission for AH-markets is 2% only.

Concerning Samvo there were rumors that they have something to do with AsianOdds & Game2bet who disappeared some years ago (they also closed the account of a bettor who asked some questions about the similarities between Samvo and these old books). So I really never trusted them but I cannot say for sure that it is risky to play there.

[vanman]

Kiwi,are 188bet reliable,do they pay out and what are their limits like.

[kiwi]

Kiwi,are 188bet reliable,do they pay out and what are their limits like.

I cannot garuantee for any sportsbook that it is reliable. But so far I have done many withdrawals from 188Bet without problems. When I made the first withdrawal there were some problems as they wanted to have copies of some documents and were very pedantic saying they couldn't read the documents good enough. But finally after they had accepted the documents the next withdrawals went fine.

Their limits differ depending on the event and the betting typ (higher limits for bigger events compared to smaller ones and higher limits for AH bets compared to 1X2 bets). But you can place more than 10000 Euro per bet for big events with AH odds. Also the limits increase toward the start time of the games.

[vanman]

I cannot garuantee for any sportsbook that it is reliable. But so far I have done many withdrawals from 188Bet without problems. When I made the first withdrawal there were some problems as they wanted to have copies of some documents and were very pedantic saying they couldn't read the documents good enough. But finally after they had accepted the documents the next withdrawals went fine.

Their limits differ depending on the event and the betting typ (higher limits for bigger events compared to smaller ones and higher limits for AH bets compared to 1X2 bets). But you can place more than 10000 Euro per bet for big events with AH odds. Also the limits increase toward the start time of the games.

Kiwi,i shall take a look at them.

[kiwi]

Their software reminds me of Easybets.com

How is www.ysb88.com??

Easybets = ysb88. There are better books!

[jjgold]

Do any Asian books take Americans?

[kiwi]

I don't know (I live in Europe) but many asian books have live chat (for example 188Bet and Mansion88) so you can ask them or at least you can ask by e-mail.

[pigmo1]

Can you open www.mansion88.com ?
I have problem

[jjgold]

mansion website looks sharp but not geared for Americans

What type of volume is at these Asian Books?

[pjesnik24]

try mansion55 it is the same website

[bigboydan]

How can signup to play samvo?
http://www.samvo.com/b1.html
no lines, nothing

They are not offering net wagering right now due to the new platform they are implementing, However in order to register a new account with them these days you need to contact there customer service and setup a phone account.

[bigboydan]

The best exchange for asian handicap soccer betting is Betdaq. At the moment the commission for AH-markets is 2% only.

Even though [iSBRFORUM]Betdaq[/iSBRFORUM] offers that low 2% commission the volume is still fairly low though. You almost gotta believe that they seed a lot of it themselves too. Good thing about this exchange though is the guys behind it are megarich, so your money is safe.

Whats your thoughts on betsson or mybet ?

[kiwi]

Even though [iSBRFORUM]Betdaq[/iSBRFORUM] offers that low 2% commission the volume is still fairly low though. You almost gotta believe that they seed a lot of it themselves too. Good thing about this exchange though is the guys behind it are megarich, so your money is safe.

Whats your thoughts on betsson or mybet ?

Yes, Betdaq seeds the markets, but often the AH markets are therefore more liquid than it seems: often the amount of money which you can accept seems to be low, but as soon as you took the offer it will immediately be renewed so altogether you can place bigger bets than it seems.

Betsson (the exchange not the book) is great concerning certain kinds of bets (find out yourself which ones I mean ;-) ). Also they pay out without any problems. Altogether I like Betsson!

Though I don't have a good opinion about Mybet because of different reasons.

[bigboydan]

I hear ya Kiwi... Bad customer service and slow paying is not exactly the qualities I look for in books or exchanges at all either, and Mybet fits that mold IMO.

Betsson exchange has really seemed to be improving more lately now that they opened up that [iSBRFORUM]Betsson Trader[/iSBRFORUM] site. Also they do seem to pay fairly fast as well which is always a positive.

[vanman]

What`s the commission rate at betsson.

[kiwi]

What`s the commission rate at betsson.

4%.

[SBR_John]

Great info Kiwi!

[Maledetto]

Do any Asian books take Americans?

There are 6 major street books operating out of Asia, like Kiwi said 188bet and Mansion88 are the easiest to use but don't welcome Americans, directly. The ones that do welcome them are SBO and IBC but then they don't welcome direct customers only through agents. The other 2 are agent-only and might not want to deal with 'some americans'. There are 3 highly regarded exclusive books, but non-connoisseur westerners have no chance at them.

mansion website looks sharp but not geared for Americans

What type of volume is at these Asian Books?

Volume is through the roof at some of these books. 100k bets on match day barely moving the lines, 25K bets in 3rd division matches, not afraid of leaning and taking sides. SBO and IBC are the whores of the streets, the walmart model, minimizing risk more so than the others. In terms of handle I'ld place Mansion88 at lowest of the 6 curb books.

Of course there are dozens more baby books like yi sheng bo (easybet) but they don't control the market and are meaningless, and they offload most of their action with the big boys. For the informed bettor betting in Asia is like having 4 Pinnacles (at its high) available, with all the advantages, leans, high limits, low juice.

[bigboydan]

Of course there are dozens more baby books like yi sheng bo (easybet) but they don't control the market and are meaningless, and they offload most of their action with the big boys.

I can totally understand why though, because Asian books very high maintenance that most outfits can't really handle.