Which one SBR rating do you consider to be the most off the mark?

**mtneer1212** · 10-12-09, 08:24 PM

RebateWager/Blackdog should be higher -- at least a B
Heritage should be higher -- at least an A-
Sportbet should be lower -- at least a C-
Jazz should be higher -- at least a B+
Bookmaker should be lower -- at least an A-

**Lucas** · 10-12-09, 08:48 PM

I agree with many posters /Unibet for example is best euro book/, but what really IS ridiculous is rating of Looselines.
They have B just to appear as SBR sponsor. Do you think that sportsbook with alexa rank below 500K, sportsbook that even does not pretend that does not welcome pros, sportsbook that had problems to pay few thousands after march maddness, so it took them over 2 months and even SBR could not help a lot, even when they probably know them since are CR sportsbook... that this sportsbook deserves B?

**topcat** · 10-12-09, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by acw

Bodog should be way lower!

i second that,its the hardest book to get deposits in there.

**flyingillini** · 10-14-09, 12:35 AM

Heritage, there is no reason they should not be A+

**yobinad** · 10-14-09, 10:07 AM

Canbet should be much lower

**frankthetank** · 10-14-09, 10:34 AM

bodog lower, WSEX lower, BetOnline lower, WagerWeb higher

**THEGREAT30** · 10-14-09, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by THEGREAT30

5Dimes, too many reports of poor CS for them to be a true A+ book. On the other hand, I have been getting really good CS from BetJamaica the last 2 years or so, thus I guess we all have differing opinions. I would also have to question BetPhoenix because I remember a couple of alarming disputes that were posted in the past that's why I still have never really sent them serious money.

Sorry I forgot to mention Bodog. They have been in the biggest legal dispute in online gambling history. I would not touch them with a ten foot pole. They are like the guy just getting out of jail trying to sell you drugs, they will always be too hot to touch for my liking. They also went through a long stretch in which people were being slow payed and no payed. Bodog and WSEX are about the same, actually Bodog is worse.

**pokerplayer22** · 10-14-09, 02:31 PM

I am still curious to know if anyone out there other than Justin "the Goof" actually believes that Sportbet deserves the "B" rating that they bought. I have seen one negative post after another with regards to this corrupt outfit and yet SBR wont re-rate this place as a "D" or an "F" like they deserve

**jpete1966** · 10-14-09, 03:44 PM

sportsbook.com has always been great to me. I've never had any payout issues and when I make a request it shows up right away. They also allow me to make 3 free withdrawls per month. WSEX should definitely not be ranked higher.

**JoeVig** · 10-14-09, 09:32 PM

BetOnline as A- is way too high. Several folks had many problems with bonus requirements and getting limited chopped early in the rollover.

**pokerplayer22** · 10-14-09, 11:30 PM

Well, like i expected, no one has anything positive to say about the corrupt Sportbet other than Justin "the Goof". Justin....dont you feel any shame in backing such a dishonest, corrupt outfit while many posters (not just me) get scammed by this place? Get a conscience brother!!!

**Dark Horse** · 10-15-09, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by JoeVig

BetOnline as A- is way too high. Several folks had many problems with bonus requirements and getting limited chopped early in the rollover.

Yes, that was surprising. If I remember correctly that came about shortly after a SBR trip to Panama, where they are located. They must have made a good impression...

For the record, Justin stepped out of line on that one and did not support the high rating.

**dark star** · 10-15-09, 05:46 PM

BOL can't be considered a legit book as they still don't have totals up for Saturday.Overrated pussies

**AimingHigh** · 10-15-09, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by pokerplayer22

Well, like i expected, no one has anything positive to say about the corrupt Sportbet other than Justin "the Goof". Justin....dont you feel any shame in backing such a dishonest, corrupt outfit while many posters (not just me) get scammed by this place? Get a conscience brother!!!

Perhaps you're not getting much support because your beef with Sportbet is based on not getting away with your attempt to scam them? - http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...ortbet-p3.html (tomcowley's post @ 74 gives a fair impression). Whatever reasons there may be for them being lower than a "B", your case isn't one of them.

This is an interesting thread.

I'd have Bet911 raised to a solid "C," so I guess I mean "C+". Liked playing there, but kinda concerned that Carl is actively recruiting sign ups from a known bonus whoring website. While they're doing that, I'm not sure I'd want to encourage people to use them with a "B/B-" rating.

**pokerplayer22** · 10-15-09, 07:36 PM

Aiming high....you have no clue what you are talking about but aside from my case...according to you, everyone else complaining about this corrupt outfit must be drunk? Is that what you are saying??? You are clueless....but hey if you dont believe me, make a deposit with these idiots, make some wagers, and should you win, just try to cash out and watch what happens next.

**UV82** · 10-15-09, 07:37 PM

this is all very dynamic and changes from week to week B911 was an upcoming star but perhaps not so much after this week saga... on the other hand we are hearing about good payout reports from Wsex - although I d still treat it with caution.

Sportsintercation must be rated F... crooks

**Lucas** · 10-15-09, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by yobinad

Canbet should be much lower

why?
their only problem is not only the correlated parlay issue? except dummy clerks od course..

**AimingHigh** · 10-16-09, 04:21 AM

Originally posted by Lucas

why?
their only problem is not only the correlated parlay issue? except dummy clerks od course..

They and IASbet seized player balances for players from certain Euro countries, mainly Portugal, I think. They refused to talk to SBR about it, and didn't give any reasons for the seizures.

**ketut** · 10-16-09, 08:18 AM

World Sports Exchange(WSEX) should be a D- or an F
If you need a withdrawl quick for your money, forget it. Their fastest withdrawl method takes at least 30 days before you actually get your money. They promise 7-10 days, but they lie. My last withdrawl took 33 days before I got it, and they promised me that I will have it in 7 days.

**pokerplayer22** · 10-16-09, 09:43 AM

As bad as WSEX is for slow paying people and having it take a month or even longer to get people paid, at least if you play with them you do eventially get your money. The corrupt Sportbet has a "No Pay Policy" They will gladly accept your deposits but over the last few months they have implemented this new "No Pay Policy". I am not sure that an "F" is a low enough grade for these crooks.

**Dark Horse** · 10-16-09, 10:13 AM

pokerplayer, you've stated your opinion about the same book in posts 43, 46, 50, and 55. We got the point. Time to move on, or open a separate topic.

**geebert74** · 10-16-09, 12:10 PM

Sportsbook.com should defn be higher... C+ I would say. A lot of the nonsense was a few years back... I think they have changed their ways!

**jasont** · 10-16-09, 12:54 PM

Pinnacle should have its own rating above A+.

**tomcowley** · 10-16-09, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by geebert74

Sportsbook.com should defn be higher... C+ I would say. A lot of the nonsense was a few years back... I think they have changed their ways!

You mean they realize they were wrong in stealing from players and paid them all back in full? Paid any of them back, at all? Oh, wait... didn't think so.

**robmpink** · 10-16-09, 07:03 PM

WagerWeb should be a B.

**bookie** · 10-16-09, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Interesting. I haven't followed the WSEX story closely (not interested in full juice books). So I suppose Cascade may soon be joined by another book that fell from SBR rating A all the way down to D.

My personal choice for this thread is Heritage (A or A+). I used their unprecedented football promotion this year. And I have to say that I'm as close to stunned as I'm ever going to be about a book. Heritage is not necessarily the main out in a lineup of books, but as far as 'above and beyond' the call of duty no other book comes close. This board is practically glowing with positive Heritage feedback. That is something I've never seen.

I'm not aware of the buzz on Heritage. What was the promotion that got you in? And what exactly has pleased you in playing with the book?

**dark star** · 10-16-09, 09:52 PM

Heritage=the best in the business.

**cinpls081** · 10-16-09, 11:03 PM

bookmaker is the most overrated book by SBR. They have crap lines almost impossible to win with those crap lines. They steal from everyone yet peple don't seem to notice. win less and lose more should with our crap lines that has a nice ring to it

**Dark Horse** · 10-16-09, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by bookie

I'm not aware of the buzz on Heritage. What was the promotion that got you in? And what exactly has pleased you in playing with the book?

It was a 30% cash bonus, plus replacement of original deposit if at any time it was lost. Then, if that were lost, they would give me another 20% insurance before the Superbowl.

They have other great promotions, like get-out-of-your-bet-at-halftime-for-free (twice a month). They're low juice (-107), have great teaser odds, unlimited open teasers (up to 15 teams, no time limit) and parlays. There's other stuff (like one or two weekly free contests for 5K), but you get the idea.

They've really gone the extra mile to create a book that stands out from others. Apparently they can do so because their selection process guarantees them enough losing players. Whatever their secret, there's an overall classiness about Heritage that seems unique in the world of bookmaking.

**burnedhands** · 10-17-09, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by cinpls081

bookmaker is the most overrated book by SBR. They have crap lines almost impossible to win with those crap lines. They steal from everyone yet peple don't seem to notice. win less and lose more should with our crap lines that has a nice ring to it

i agree, thats why i use 5dimes hehe

**bookie** · 10-17-09, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

It was a 30% cash bonus, plus replacement of original deposit if at any time it was lost. Then, if that were lost, they would give me another 20% insurance before the Superbowl.

They have other great promotions, like get-out-of-your-bet-at-halftime-for-free (twice a month). They're low juice (-107), have great teaser odds, unlimited open teasers (up to 15 teams, no time limit) and parlays. There's other stuff (like one or two weekly free contests for 5K), but you get the idea.

They've really gone the extra mile to create a book that stands out from others. Apparently they can do so because their selection process guarantees them enough losing players. Whatever their secret, there's an overall classiness about Heritage that seems unique in the world of bookmaking.

Thanks for the details. I had no idea they dealt -107. Is that on 2H lines as well? It sounds like I'm going to have to at least put them on my radar.