Bet365 locked my 85,000 euros ($96,800) !!!

**littlekona** · 01-23-19, 01:14 PM

“Imagine having such money and not being able to access it after that much time, after all has been checked multiple times and after your personal data has been verified. It's really creepy what can happen no matter how much experience in the betting business one has got.”

It it may be just a standard review but something with you sounds off to me....deposit 35k and act if 96k is huge amount? If I where to deposit a sum that large I would verify account ask many questions prior....red flags

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 01:18 PM

I bet for many years as I've said, and bet big amounts. I have made some income so far by betting. But I treat every euro or usd equally, wouldn't you? No matter it's $96 or $96000, the point is how they are acting and what they are doing. I have heard of Bet365 ever since I've started betting and that is well over 10 years ago, and I am from Europe, they are very famous over here, advertise everywhere in the big events... and of course as I also typed in my initial post, I've read the reviews, I've read about their financial status and history, did not however come across this scamming threads in here until just today.

**eaglesfan371** · 01-23-19, 01:47 PM

1) bet365 limits players after they win even $500.

You depositing $35,000 and running up to this amount doesn’t seem likely. You claim to not be a beginner but yet you didn’t know this book does not cater to winners?

I think this story is a lie good luck.

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 01:56 PM

eaglesfan371, yes, I knew they limit players, as I said once again I did read thoroughly about that, but where does it say they steal money of their clients and lock accounts out of the blue without any notification? I hoped somebody would come up with some helpful advice or at least word of comfort by now, instead I get questioned?!

I know it sounds like a bad dream, or perhaps a nightmare but it's unfortunately for real. I can provide a bunch of screenshots of their automatically generated emails, whatever question I'd ask them, they repeat the same exact generic answers. It's like talking to robots who have confiscated your own money.

I have already filed official complaints to the governing bodies I could find online, but who knows when will they respond to me and give feedback, and I am glad I can share this with thousand of readers because this company is indeed horrible and not at all what they present themselves to the public.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 01-23-19, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by eaglesfan371

1) bet365 limits players after they win even $500.

Nah, they're fine with winning if you bet -EV. They'll even increase your limits in that case.

**littlekona** · 01-23-19, 02:22 PM

One thing I have learned over years is there are as many scammer customers to the books as bad books who scam customers...not sure which applies here but OP does sound a bit fishy

**moojoo** · 01-23-19, 02:25 PM

Marko you dont have to worry,it will all settle in few days. They just want to verify your acconut,and be sure you didnt bet some fishy matches. I asure you if you are legit,you will be good in few days.

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 02:26 PM

Wow. I am speechless. Almost sounds like there are people paid by Bet365 to type such stuff. I am going through a very stressful issue here really, and now have to read such stuff is really something.

As I said, please, if anyone has got any useful advice or tips what to do here, please tell me. I have also filed an official complaint to SBR with proves, screenshots and all, my bet365 username etc, so we can end the 'I am a scammer' discussion if not a problem.

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by moojoo

Marko you dont have to worry,it will all settle in few days. They just want to verify your acconut,and be sure you didnt bet some fishy matches. I asure you if you are legit,you will be good in few days.

This is the post I needed moojoo

If I'd know all will settle in a few days, I would not sweat at all. But, based on this shady behavior by them, I have got some serious doubts.

**BetJesus** · 01-23-19, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by MarkoBoz

So friends, I have already written in the other "Bet365 a great scam' topic in this subforum but based on the advice of a colleague from the forum let me make a separate thread/topic and hopefully anyone can assist me and at least I will make the public known what this Bet365 bookmaker is really doing when the big money is on the line.

This bookmaker is claiming to be reliable, fast withdrawals, big payouts, and many other things. I am objective and am not biased despite the fact that at the moment they have created me a huge huge trouble, but I will not say anything more negative about them than it really is for me right now. In short, I have a lot of years of betting experience, but I've always hesitated to open an account at Bet365, and I finally decided to do it last week, also a SBR review helped do it. Did not read the scam threads unfortunately in time. I am a high roller, I bet on stats and analysis, I prefer to bet in play and so I deposited around 35,000€ last week to bet some matches and I created a system banker with 5-6 events and eventually all the matches won. I attempted to login after all the events have finished (and even once before all of them ended to use their well-advertised option "Cash out" and maybe be standby to cashout in case any event goes wrong, but I hit the wall, bump. I could not login at all, with all that money inside, and with the account being verified according to those kyc procedures and whatever. No emails, no messages at all from them. Who does that first of all? I quickly contacted them and after a while they've said they're "making a trading review" of my account. That was all on Sunday, the last event on my system bet ended successfully for me on Monday evening. I talk European time, now it's Wednesday night, so over 48 hours has passed since the last event has ended. I still keep getting the same generic email messages from their robotized customer service department on how they are making a review. What review my friends? All the scores and results are clearly known and verified a long time ago, and where is my money? What are they doing with it? According to the odds on the banker, I should have about 85,000€ or roughly $96800 on my sportsbook account. Imagine having such money and not being able to access or even see it after that much time, after all has been checked multiple times and after your personal data has been verified. It's really creepy what can happen no matter how much experience in the betting business one has got.

I assume not so many forum colleagues have such terrible experience but I will appreciate if You help me and tell me will they steal all of this, try to cover it up, think that I am some beginner (what beginner bets 35 thousand?!) and will sit and wait for them to have mercy and maybe one day (or maybe never) pay me out my money, or what steps exactly my friends do you suggest me to take? It is an unpleasant situation, and I will repeat once again I felt such confidence to deposit that amount only upon reading many online reviews, seeing they are financially well-off and are located in stable countries.

I will appreciate all the help and advice, this is really stressful and I would not wish the feeling to anyone.

Why publicize the fact that you’re a high roller and use stats/analytics to place wagers. You kill your self when you do that because most of these books refuse your action.

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 02:37 PM

BetJesus, how is that relevant to this terrible issue my friend?

If You like to know, I bet via brokers in Asia, while I am good with the exchanges and Pinnacle, those are always have been good for me. I wanted to try Bet365m primarily because of the wide offer and the possibility to bet on some less popular events for a bit higher stakes than usual, but there I have it now.

**lonnie55** · 01-23-19, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by MarkoBoz

I will appreciate all the help and advice, this is really stressful and I would not wish the feeling to anyone.

My first advice: Stay calm and be patient. An investigation can take weeks or months. Don't ask me why but that's how it is. You find yourself in the very comfortable situation that you're dealing with the biggest regulated book for recreational players in the world. They have 30 million customers and the company is so profitable that their CEO Denise Coates can afford to pay herself a 300 million check which is three times as much as the CEO of Apple earns. As someone said before, b365 is a book that pays and is definitely NOT a scam. If your story is true and if this is your own account and you didn't violate any terms you will get paid. It's only a matter of time I would say. These kind of investigations are a routine and can happen if certain criterions have been fulfilled.

Second advice: Contact justiceforpunters.org. You may find an ally in your "fight against b365" if you have the feeling the book is bullying you for no reason.

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 03:01 PM

Ionnie55, thanks for your message, it's got some good and bad info for me. I have already emailed that web site you've provided me.

The good info is that you believe they will pay. Ok, that's something I expect too but the big question is when? If I wanted to go to the bank and earn interest I would put my 35 thousand euros there and even then be able to access it or withdraw it anytime. You know, deposits at Bet365 are so instant, the money gets to them within 2 seconds from my click at the deposit button on their sportsbook web site, but what happens now? Withdrawal takes, according to them, up to 24 hours. Now it has passed over 48 hours since the last match in my system bet, and over 76 hours since I made the bets and deposited my money to them. I may need my money earlier than few weeks or months. How irresponsible of behavior is this, to just lock the account, hold the money, give some vague and unclear reasoning and then what am I supposed to do? Just look at the sky and pray.

There is nothing in dispute here, my sportsbook account is verified, it is mine, who else's would it be, the results are confirmed, all is very very clear. What's the investigation? A trading review. They lost the money, if they are so serious as you claim their CEO is, then they should haven't locked my money and myself out of my own account, and have easily paid me out by now.

One thing is if the CEO can pay that check, and another thing is if he wants to pay it.

**littlekona** · 01-23-19, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by MarkoBoz

Ionnie55, thanks for your message, it's got some good and bad info for me. I have already emailed that web site you've provided me.

The good info is that you believe they will pay. Ok, that's something I expect too but the big question is when? If I wanted to go to the bank and earn interest I would put my 35 thousand euros there and even then be able to access it or withdraw it anytime. You know, deposits at Bet365 are so instant, the money gets to them within 2 seconds from my click at the deposit button on their sportsbook web site, but what happens now? Withdrawal takes, according to them, up to 24 hours. Now it has passed over 48 hours since the last match in my system bet, and over 76 hours since I made the bets and deposited my money to them. I may need my money earlier than few weeks or months. How irresponsible of behavior is this, to just lock the account, hold the money, give some vague and unclear reasoning and then what am I supposed to do? Just look at the sky and pray.

There is nothing in dispute here, my sportsbook account is verified, it is mine, who else's would it be, the results are confirmed, all is very very clear. What's the investigation? A trading review. They lost the money, if they are so serious as you claim their CEO is, then they should haven't locked my money and myself out of my own account, and have easily paid me out by now.

One thing is if the CEO can pay that check, and another thing is if he wants to pay it.

I am not familiar within the terms of bet365 but you say you use stats/analytics to make these high roller wagers....Do you use some sort of bot programs to do this and if yes it may be against terms

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 03:14 PM

No no, littlekona, for all the years I never used any programs nor those bots or whatever and I am proud of that. I have over 10 years of experience, I watch many games, I follow stats intensively, overall I am very passionate bettor and trader, it's my full-time job more-less.

I can even tell you what I bet, I bet at halftime of a lower league match on a corners total bet, that was one of my bankers in my high-stake system bet. I used previous stats for those teams, the situation in the first half and current in-game stats and simply odds had value according to me, and the rest of the logic for the bet I can explain you in a private message if you will wish to know details. All in all, I am sure Bet365 does not like to lose, no one does, but if they are so serious as they claim they should not act so poorly, unprofessionally and shady, especially not when some more serious amounts are involved.

**BetJesus** · 01-23-19, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by littlekona

I am not familiar within the terms of bet365 but you say you use stats/analytics to make these high roller wagers....Do you use some sort of bot programs to do this and if yes it may be against terms

This entire thread doesn’t make any sense. There are far more negative reviews of bet 365 than there are positive yet somehow this guy missed all of the negative I nes in the forums and only saw the positive. That is difficult to do. He deposited a large amount of money, one a large amount, and now the Book wants him gone. He shouldn’t be surprised neither should anybody else. He made a poor choice and in an informed decision when choosing this book. Or, he is full of it and trying to pull a fast one, which is incredibly possible

**lonnie55** · 01-23-19, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by MarkoBoz

but the big question is when?

No one can tell. It may feel unfair but that's how it is unfortunately.

What I don't understand is why you made such a big deposit if you need that money. Obviously you had a reason for not having used b365 yet. So you have been skeptical before I guess. Why did you still decide to make this deposit although you needed that money on your bank account? And I have to agree with other posters who say it's not very credible to claim that you're betting for years but never used b365 so far. Usually it's one of the first books a bettor gets in contact with. It's THE book for beginners and recreational players. But don't get me wrong on this. That doesn't mean I don't believe your story. I'm just curious as I never heard of a player who started with Pinnacle first and went over to b365 years later.

**BetJesus** · 01-23-19, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by MarkoBoz

No no, littlekona, for all the years I never used any programs nor those bots or whatever and I am proud of that. I have over 10 years of experience, I watch many games, I follow stats intensively, overall I am very passionate bettor and trader, it's my full-time job more-less.

I can even tell you what I bet, I bet at halftime of a lower league match on a corners total bet, that was one of my bankers in my high-stake system bet. I used previous stats for those teams, the situation in the first half and current in-game stats and simply odds had value according to me, and the rest of the logic for the bet I can explain you in a private message if you will wish to know details. All in all, I am sure Bet365 does not like to lose, no one does, but if they are so serious as they claim they should not act so poorly, unprofessionally and shady, especially not when some more serious amounts are involved.

Just stop. This is EXACTLY what sports books don’t want to see. Books don’t want your business, and you’re going to make it easy for them to refuse it.

You’re just digging yourself a hole. Just sit there, be quiet, and let SBR attempt to help.

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 03:25 PM

Because I lived in the States when I started at first Ionnie55, no problem, I can explain all, nothing to hide. My first sportsbook was indeed Pinnaclesports, then I had accounts at theGreek and 5dimes, later on moved to Europe and went onto betting exchanges and Asia and then I found out about Bet365. But, as Betjesus is writing I was aware of many negative reviews and as you understood too was sceptical, but in the end made up my mind and deposited it, thinking that what just happened to me will be the only thing that has no chance of happening... I knew they can limit me, I knew they can close my account, but not to pay, or to try to cover all up thinking I am some newbie, or a fool, and avoid a payout, this honestly I did not find anywhere yet, but maybe I did not search that deep. I honestly thought that they will pay up because I have nothing to hide and because they are supposedly doing well and are working transparently. But no.

Now, coulda woulda shoulda, I am where I am. I have filed official complaints at many places, I sincerely hope to get some legal help because my case is very clear. They have reviewed enough. They have to deal they've lost some money, what is that compared to their 300 million or whatever. Or maybe that is how they make such money after all?

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by BetJesus

Just stop. This is EXACTLY what sports books don’t want to see. Books don’t want your business, and you’re going to make it easy for them to refuse it.

You’re just digging yourself a hole. Just sit there, be quiet, and let SBR attempt to help.

I am already in a hole, so nothing more to lose. I know I've won and I won it fairly. And I already made my piece with Bet365 not ever letting me back in

They can dislike my business all they want, but if they are serious as they present themselves to be, the money has got to be paid out.

**lonnie55** · 01-23-19, 03:31 PM

You're living in the UK?

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by lonnie55

You're living in the UK?

Nope unfortunately, I bet it would not be this hard if I was there... Serbia at the moment.

**lonnie55** · 01-23-19, 04:04 PM

Oh I see, they don't like players from Eastern Europe for whatever reason

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by lonnie55

Oh I see, they don't like players from Eastern Europe for whatever reason

That would be quite bad if true. But obviously they like their money, and did not complain much when they received the deposit.

**lonnie55** · 01-23-19, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by MarkoBoz

That would be quite bad if true. But obviously they like their money, and did not complain much when they received the deposit.

Of course they do. Which book would not?

I don't say b365 is a charity organization. It's still a sportsbook. And betting is a dirty business where books enjoy the privilege of fools. But it's still the most reliable UK book for sure.

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 05:02 PM

Let's send an update here as finally someone else has contacted me from Bet365 stating some article in their terms and conditions which he tried to use to justify their actions of suspending access for me to my Bet365 sportsbook account. So, a customer accounts team leader has emailed me and it's the first non-generic bet365 email in days (I think they are reading this thread too), and he stated this as the justification for their actions:

The relevant term and condition for your current situation is:
4.3 If bet365 closes or suspends your account for any of the reasons referred to in (a) to (e) above, you shall be liable for any and all claims, losses, liabilities, damages, costs and expenses incurred or suffered by bet365 (together “Claims”) arising therefrom and shall indemnify and hold bet365 harmless on demand for such Claims. In the circumstances referred to in (a) to (e) above, bet365 shall also be entitled to withhold and/or retain any and all amounts which would otherwise have been paid or payable to you (including any winnings, Bet Credits or bonus payments).

You can view our full terms and conditions by scrolling down to the bottom of our website and clicking on 'Terms and Conditions'

So, I was not lazy of course and went again to the bottom of the Bet365 web site, and went to see these a) to e) which he talks about, to see in which case the rule applies, so let me copy paste that here and let's then see if they were even legally allowed to make such an action in this case:

a) you become bankrupt;

(b) bet365 considers that you have used the Website in a fraudulent manner or for illegal and/or unlawful or improper purposes;

(c) bet365 considers that you have used the Website in an unfair manner, have deliberately cheated or taken unfair advantage of bet365 or any of its customers or if your account is being used for the benefit of a third party;

(d) bet365 is requested to do so by the police, any regulatory authority or court;

(e) bet365 considers that any of the events referred to in (a) to (c) above may have occurred or are likely to occur;

So, based on these 5 points they gave themselves the right to suspend my account and disable me the access to my 85 thousand euros. Let's see if I meet any of the 5 criteria:

A) I am not bankrupt obviously.
B) I have used the bet365 sportsbook legally, regularly just like every bettor does - deposited and won the money fair and square, and right now the only illegal activity is that you are attempting to avoid the payout that you've been overdue..
C) I have not taken advantage of anyone, I have analyzed each event I bet on just like I always do, and invested my own money on the system bet. Even for an advanced college student who just started betting, it'd easy to figure out the logic why I have bet on what I have bet. Additionally, I am betting for my own benefit exclusively.
D) If any of the parties have requested to check my account, it is no problem, I can speak to anyone about anything related to this if necessary.
E) So, I will just once reconfirm that neither of their reasons above have been met and they are unlawfully holding onto my deposit and winnings, and keep my account suspended. Not to mention that they are shady, unprofessional and arrogant.

If that's a reliable bookmaker, then I don't know what to say. Bet365

**littlekona** · 01-23-19, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by MarkoBoz

Let's send an update here as finally someone else has contacted me from Bet365 stating some article in their terms and conditions which he tried to use to justify their actions of suspending access for me to my Bet365 sportsbook account. So, a customer accounts team leader has emailed me and it's the first non-generic bet365 email in days (I think they are reading this thread too), and he stated this as the justification for their actions:

The relevant term and condition for your current situation is:
4.3 If bet365 closes or suspends your account for any of the reasons referred to in (a) to (e) above, you shall be liable for any and all claims, losses, liabilities, damages, costs and expenses incurred or suffered by bet365 (together “Claims”) arising therefrom and shall indemnify and hold bet365 harmless on demand for such Claims. In the circumstances referred to in (a) to (e) above, bet365 shall also be entitled to withhold and/or retain any and all amounts which would otherwise have been paid or payable to you (including any winnings, Bet Credits or bonus payments).

You can view our full terms and conditions by scrolling down to the bottom of our website and clicking on 'Terms and Conditions'

So, I was not lazy of course and went again to the bottom of the Bet365 web site, and went to see these a) to e) which he talks about, to see in which case the rule applies, so let me copy paste that here and let's then see if they were even legally allowed to make such an action in this case:

a) you become bankrupt;

(b) bet365 considers that you have used the Website in a fraudulent manner or for illegal and/or unlawful or improper purposes;

(c) bet365 considers that you have used the Website in an unfair manner, have deliberately cheated or taken unfair advantage of bet365 or any of its customers or if your account is being used for the benefit of a third party;

(d) bet365 is requested to do so by the police, any regulatory authority or court;

(e) bet365 considers that any of the events referred to in (a) to (c) above may have occurred or are likely to occur;

So, based on these 5 points they gave themselves the right to suspend my account and disable me the access to my 85 thousand euros. Let's see if I meet any of the 5 criteria:

A) I am not bankrupt obviously.
B) I have used the bet365 sportsbook legally, regularly just like every bettor does - deposited and won the money fair and square, and right now the only illegal activity is that you are attempting to avoid the payout that you've been overdue..
C) I have not taken advantage of anyone, I have analyzed each event I bet on just like I always do, and invested my own money on the system bet. Even for an advanced college student who just started betting, it'd easy to figure out the logic why I have bet on what I have bet. Additionally, I am betting for my own benefit exclusively.
D) If any of the parties have requested to check my account, it is no problem, I can speak to anyone about anything related to this if necessary.
E) So, I will just once reconfirm that neither of their reasons above have been met and they are unlawfully holding onto my deposit and winnings, and keep my account suspended. Not to mention that they are shady, unprofessional and arrogant.

If that's a reliable bookmaker, then I don't know what to say. Bet365

my guess is they feel your are part of syndicate and violated rules and or your use of admitted stats/analytics programs gave you an unfair advantage....There explanation of possibilities seems valid. Guess betting 35K on low league soccer corner kicks live raises red flags

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 07:23 PM

But I already typed above I do not use such stuff and explained how I bet... I just saw that it was too good off an odd at HT based on how the game was going, the current score, and the in-game stats (you probably know what to look at when betting on soccer), and how many corners already happened. That's all there was to it. It's too simple and easy and I have nothing to hide there. And they allowed that stake, it was within their betting limits - it's not any kind of syndicate betting nor anything else, just one of the bets in my banker system on a single sportsbook betting account. I had about 6 other events (different bets) in total on it so nothing unfair there.

I bet in a clear and regularly allowed way. Now that they lost, they are like, crap, we are suckers, let's buy us some time to see how we can avoid paying, our CEO will be mad to have to pay 0.025% of his annual budget to this guy, but the reality is one of their traders maybe going to get fired and they will have to pay up. I sincerely hope SBR can help me speed that process up, because honestly as I've typed above, I did not plan on keeping my 35,000 eur plus possible winnings sitting in Bet365's bank account for an unlimited period of time. I have elaborated and "demystified" their terms and conditions that they are using to claim they have the right to make these, actually, illegal actions.

**eaglesfan371** · 01-23-19, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by MarkoBoz

But I already typed above I do not use such stuff and explained how I bet... I just saw that it was too good off an odd at HT based on how the game was going, the current score, and the in-game stats (you probably know what to look at when betting on soccer), and how many corners already happened. That's all there was to it. It's too simple and easy and I have nothing to hide there. And they allowed that stake, it was within their betting limits - it's not any kind of syndicate betting nor anything else, just one of the bets in my banker system on a single sportsbook betting account. I had about 6 other events (different bets) in total on it so nothing unfair there.

I bet in a clear and regularly allowed way. Now that they lost, they are like, crap, we are suckers, let's buy us some time to see how we can avoid paying, our CEO will be mad to have to pay 0.025% of his annual budget to this guy, but the reality is one of their traders maybe going to get fired and they will have to pay up. I sincerely hope SBR can help me speed that process up, because honestly as I've typed above, I did not plan on keeping my 35,000 eur plus possible winnings sitting in Bet365's bank account for an unlimited period of time. I have elaborated and "demystified" their terms and conditions that they are using to claim they have the right to make these, actually, illegal actions.

Lets first stop and think about this. Some new account, knowing that Bet365 bans people over even $500, thinks he can quick hit and run a rec only book with $35,000 deposit and runs it up +50k...You will likely get paid but hell, it ain't going to be quick dude.

You will have to verify that the funds were legitimate, not laundered. You will have to verify your identity in several ways, they will likely do a review on all of your plays too. It won't be quick. 1-2 months likely.

**MarkoBoz** · 01-23-19, 08:15 PM

I did not read that they really ban people for such money like for example William Hill does, but I read they limit people fast when betting high stakes (reducing their betting limits by half or by 2/3). That's why I spent all that day when I decided to invest and deposit money at Bet365 looking at their in play matches and then I bet all I wanted before I would probably also get limited. Who knows, maybe they would never limit me if I had lost the bets. And as I typed, they allow that much money to be won, it is within their payout limits.

I deposit the funds via the most famous ewallet (at least in Europe) Skrill (formerly known as Moneybookers), where I am a verified silver VIP member, so all is already verified there regarding my funds, I have nothing to hide. It does not take that long to verify a person's documents, I have all of them ready, as I've written this Bet365 is fortunately not my first ever bookmaker where I bet and deposited and won money. I have all the paperwork ready anytime to send and show. The point is the way they are acting, and what they are trying to do here - it's clear they do not like winners, ok we all knew that but it is my opinion that them being so allegedly credible and world-famous and trustable and reliable they should have no justification to hold so much money from a client for that long when everything is transparent and clear, and when I am cooperative much more than they are clearly. Regarding the plays, it's easy, I am 99.9% sure no one else bet the same kind of bets and combination of matches, and even any of my 6 events from my system bet for higher stakes that day. I am a bit stressed out and pissed off, it's true but I will not let them make a fool of me and think it's alright to hold my funds for that long when I am at their disposal 24/7 and when all the results from the matches were verified a long ago even by their live feed and their traders or whoever, so no excuse for what they are doing to me at all. If they would tell me clearly, and straight forward why are they doing what they are doing, it would have been much better than acting so shady and unprofessional. I think having so much money inside, the least I deserve is a more professional approach by them, not some vague and sluggish answers. The funniest thing is, if I had not contacted them at all, they would never even think of sending me an email or a notification about suspending my account with 85k euros inside it.

**moojoo** · 01-24-19, 04:32 AM

They dont bully people from easter Europe. They screw with people opening accs for bonus,because all of them are fake. Guy depositing 35k it is not bonus scammer...

**Okocha** · 01-24-19, 05:11 AM

Originally posted by MarkoBoz

I bet for many years as I've said, and bet big amounts. I have made some income so far by betting.

Your 5-6 bankers strategy seems legit,good work

**dealer wins** · 01-24-19, 05:36 AM

Cut the "im an systems expert crap" you are an arber I guarantee it. If this is your 1st and genuine 365 account you will be paid. If its your friends neighbours dogs account you wont be lol

**Okocha** · 01-24-19, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by MarkoBoz

C) I have not taken advantage of anyone, I have analyzed each event I bet on just like I always do, and invested my own money on the system bet. Even for an advanced college student who just started betting, it'd easy to figure out the logic why I have bet on what I have bet.

Poster Dealer i respectfully disagree with you,he is merely a Serbian stats guru depositing 35k on soft bookies and betting on 5-6 bankers and he manages to extract a nice long term income doing what even college students could understand

Jokes aside, i know cases of people EV plus running low 5 digit deposits to 6 digit on bet365 and were paid with no qualms so i would appreciate if this serbian stats guru can cut the crap,this might have passed on reddit not here while im around