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  • SBE
    Restricted User
    • 01-16-16
    • 271

    #1
    Another bookie for LIVE tennis betting ?
    Could anybody recommend any other good bookie for LIVE tennis betting, please ?

    I know Pinnacle, Betfair, Matchbook (but Matchbook is "a tragedy", they only copy odds of that two previous

    mentioned, and also 10 seconds delay). Bet365 is not good: crappy odds and different rules - must be whole match

    completed, otherwise cancelled.

    Thank you.
  • Lightning
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 05-15-16
    • 647

    #2
    I don't know what you mean about bet365 being 'not good' - they are the best bookmaker I've seen for live betting ahaha
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    • Optional
      Administrator
      • 06-10-10
      • 61396

      #3
      What rules are you looking for?

      I'm not certain but thought just about all live betting platforms required match complete. For tennis ML bets at least.
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      • SBE
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        • 01-16-16
        • 271

        #4
        Originally posted by Lightning
        I don't know what you mean about bet365 being 'not good' - they are the best bookmaker I've seen for live betting ahaha
        I am trying to do arbs.
        And the rules must match for both sides. But B365 is having different rules for a tennis match. It must be fully completed, otherwise voided. Other "normal" bookies are having the rule about 1st set must be completed. And B365 odds are very crappy. If other bookie is offering (for example) odds 1.5 for the same event at the same time, B365 is offerring 1.4 only...
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        • dhristov211
          SBR MVP
          • 12-18-15
          • 2535

          #5
          Originally posted by SBE
          Could anybody recommend any other good bookie for LIVE tennis betting, please ?

          I know Pinnacle, Betfair, Matchbook (but Matchbook is "a tragedy", they only copy odds of that two previous

          mentioned, and also 10 seconds delay). Bet365 is not good: crappy odds and different rules - must be whole match

          completed, otherwise cancelled.

          Thank you.
          bet365 is must have, you cash out so it's not canceled
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          • SBE
            Restricted User
            • 01-16-16
            • 271

            #6
            Originally posted by dhristov211
            bet365 is must have, you cash out so it's not canceled
            B365 had set a limit for me to some 10-20 EUR per a bet, some 7-8 years ago. So it is not usable anymore. Cash out ? I do not know this function exactly, but suppose, if a tennis match is not completed - everything will be voided, as "no action" ...
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            • SBE
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              • 01-16-16
              • 271

              #7
              Originally posted by Optional
              What rules are you looking for?

              I'm not certain but thought just about all live betting platforms required match complete. For tennis ML bets at least.
              I am doing arbs. The rules - 1st set must be completed is valid for Pinnacle, Betfair and Matchbook, too. But B365 is having the rule, the whole match must be completed. So it is not possible to do arbs between B365 and the others three bookies. And even my limits at B365 are very low...
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 61396

                #8
                Someone posted a list of 1 set action books that might be helpful here the other day: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post26113416

                Make sure that you double check their live rules are also 1 set before trusting the list though.


                1 Set Completed
                1xBet
                5Dimes
                BetBaller
                Betdaq
                Betfair
                Betfred
                BetOnline
                Betsafe
                Betsson
                Coral
                GoBetGo
                Ladbrokes
                Marathonbet
                Matchbook
                Paf
                Panbet
                Pinnacle
                Smarkets
                Unibet
                WagerWeb
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                • SBE
                  Restricted User
                  • 01-16-16
                  • 271

                  #9
                  Lightning, Optional, dhristov211, thank you very much to all of you, for your replies. Especially thanks to Optional, for the list. I'll look into it.
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                  • luctens
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 07-04-16
                    • 521

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dhristov211
                    bet365 is must have, you cash out so it's not canceled
                    Cash out is the biggest rip off in betting. It's only the mugs that use it and it's the biggest cash cow the bookmakers have had for years.
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                    • luctens
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 07-04-16
                      • 521

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      Someone posted a list of 1 set action books that might be helpful here the other day: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post26113416

                      Make sure that you double check their live rules are also 1 set before trusting the list though.
                      You might want to swerve GoBetGo.
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                      • xHOTTYTODDYx
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 08-15-16
                        • 5

                        #12
                        I really like bookmaker for live tennis or heritage
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                        • SBE
                          Restricted User
                          • 01-16-16
                          • 271

                          #13
                          Originally posted by xHOTTYTODDYx
                          I really like bookmaker for live tennis or heritage
                          Thank you.
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                          • futbolmundial
                            Restricted User
                            • 10-28-15
                            • 160

                            #14
                            Some shops offer '1 ball served' rules for tennis. Aslong as '1 ball' has been served, all ML wagers have action. Optional, is there a list of shops that offer these '1 ball served' rules for tennis? Last book I saw them at was BetIslands.
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                            • king7811
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 08-19-16
                              • 147

                              #15
                              Is Matchbook so bad?
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                              • Beatdabookie123
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 07-30-16
                                • 89

                                #16
                                Heritage
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                                • mets119218
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 05-09-16
                                  • 177

                                  #17
                                  Cloudbet is really good they have lots of love betting for challengers and itf
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                                  • SBE
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-16-16
                                    • 271

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by king7811
                                    Is Matchbook so bad?
                                    For LIVE betting tennis, Matchbook is only copying (scanning) odds from betfair. If the Matchbook "machine" is switched off - there is no offer available - an empty (blank) "sheet" ...And even 10 seconds delay for customers (not for Matchbook itself - they are changing odds with no delays, you can see it easy).
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                                    • futbolmundial
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 10-28-15
                                      • 160

                                      #19
                                      Cloudbet might be the best choice here. Not only do they offer your usual tennis bets, they also offer most of the obscure itf matches and have alot of crazy markets on tennis (race to 2 points in game)
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                                      • SBE
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 01-16-16
                                        • 271

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mets119218
                                        Cloudbet is really good they have lots of love betting for challengers and itf
                                        Originally posted by futbolmundial
                                        Cloudbet might be the best choice here. Not only do they offer your usual tennis bets, they also offer most of the obscure itf matches and have alot of crazy markets on tennis (race to 2 points in game)

                                        Thank you very much.

                                        But I am not looking for small tournaments, but only main ATP and WTA tournaments (higher liquidity, higher stake limits, etc.).

                                        Trying to arb live tennis and that's why I need same rules (usually 1st set completed). And the odds must differ, not to be same at the

                                        moment (nothing to arb then ...).
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                                        • Optional
                                          Administrator
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 61396

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by futbolmundial
                                          Some shops offer '1 ball served' rules for tennis. Aslong as '1 ball' has been served, all ML wagers have action. Optional, is there a list of shops that offer these '1 ball served' rules for tennis? Last book I saw them at was BetIslands.
                                          Here's the list of 1 ball served for action books from that link I posted above;

                                          Match Counts as soon as Ball Served
                                          888sport
                                          Betshop
                                          Bwin
                                          Interwetten
                                          Meridianbet
                                          Novibet


                                          Make sure you double check them though. It's a posters personal list that he shared. (maybe shoot him a few betpoints if it is useful)
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                                          • SBE
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 01-16-16
                                            • 271

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by mets119218
                                            Cloudbet is really good they have lots of love betting for challengers and itf

                                            Pre match odds on Pegula vs Abanda (Quebec), small comparison only.

                                            Few minutes ago, the odds were " equal", so best moment to compare.

                                            Cloudbet 1.93 against 1.93,

                                            while Pinnacle 1.952 vs 1.952. Is still Pinnacle unbeatable ?

                                            No other bookies offering, at least 1.96 / 1.96 ?

                                            I saw some exchange, Fairlay, but found only few info about them. they are taking 2 % of net winnings (Matchbook is taking 1 %, but both win and loss).

                                            It seems, Fairlay are (probably) doing the same thing (as matchbook.com does) - copying odds (for tennis) from Pinnacle, increasing it a little bit. Yes, I know, you will not agree with me (saying, customers are playing against customers, only - no, sorry, I am 17 years in this "business" , so I exactly know, which odds come from a bettor, and which are only copied from a bookie...).
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                                            • king7811
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 08-19-16
                                              • 147

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by SBE
                                              For LIVE betting tennis, Matchbook is only copying (scanning) odds from betfair. If the Matchbook "machine" is switched off - there is no offer available - an empty (blank) "sheet" ...And even 10 seconds delay for customers (not for Matchbook itself - they are changing odds with no delays, you can see it easy).
                                              Ok, thanks Luckily I chose Betfair!
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                                              • SBE
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 01-16-16
                                                • 271

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by king7811
                                                Ok, thanks Luckily I chose Betfair!

                                                Ok, but it does not mean, you cannot play there (at Matchbook). Sometimes , their "machine" is set a little higher than the market is moving at Betfair.

                                                For example (best to compare, when players are sitting), BF can have 1.4 odds and Matchook is having 1.41 (and only 1 % commission, but both cases, win or loss).

                                                Btw., just now, it is 17:42 (the Brexit time), their website is down (first planned maintenance, then appeared: unplanned outage). It is lasting some 10 minutes now. Hopefully they will be back in few minutes ...
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                                                • SBE
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                                                  • 01-16-16
                                                  • 271

                                                  #25
                                                  <header style="box-sizing: border-box; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: &quot;helvetica neue&quot;, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Unplanned Outage

                                                  </header><article style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: &quot;helvetica neue&quot;, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Matchbook is currently experiencing an unplanned outage. Our engineers are working hard to resolve the issue and we hope to have the site available again as soon as possible.
                                                  If you have any queries please contact our Customer Support team by e-mail (accounts@matchbook.com) or phone (UK - +44 203 627 0646 or Ireland +353 21 601 9473).
                                                  </article>
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                                                  • SBE
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                                                    • 01-16-16
                                                    • 271

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by SBE
                                                    <header style="box-sizing: border-box; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: &quot;helvetica neue&quot;, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Unplanned Outage</header><article style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: &quot;helvetica neue&quot;, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Matchbook is currently experiencing an unplanned outage. Our engineers are working hard to resolve the issue and we hope to have the site available again as soon as possible.If you have any queries please contact our Customer Support team by e-mail (accounts@matchbook.com) or phone (UK - +44 203 627 0646 or Ireland +353 21 601 9473).</article>
                                                    It seems, they are (after almost 1.5 hour) back.
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