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  • DISTROYA
    SBR MVP
    • 04-26-12
    • 2911

    #1
    bookmaker's silly rules/restrictions
    Transferred some funds from another book to open up. Doubled the money and rolled over as required (3x)...got a 5 figure balance now, but they only allow 2500 at a time withdrawals, once a week, and charge $50 for each one, not even one free payout a month or anything of the sort. I have to wait a good 2-3 months to clear out. I asked them to transfer all funds back to original book, they said "you must process 2 withdrawals first" LMAO, why? And the final nail in coffin, each book transfer, should you finally get 2 payouts and then request, costs $100 per 5k! Of course no fees coming in. I have never heard a book transfer fee. Cant wait to clear out what a joke, regret big time moving any funds here. And of course the one time I do win it happens to be these draggedy-arse books that take forever to payout. This site usually has a good grade and ringing endorsements, I for one am very displeased and wont wager another cent until all funds moved out of this joke of a payout/transfer system.
  • Art Vandeleigh
    SBR MVP
    • 12-31-06
    • 1494

    #2
    Sounds like you should have accumulated enough Betpoints to offset some of the cost of withdrawing. No?
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    • bobbywaves
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-06-08
      • 13280

      #3
      I have 2 DC's, allowing me to withdraw 5k/week. I also get 2 free payouts every 30 days, as I'm a Diamond member.
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      • ThaTopMoron
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 04-30-10
        • 27019

        #4
        yeah if you bet big and add up those points... only takes like 12,000 points for the 2nd tier level of rewards to offset a $50 fee for a check

        everybody wants everything to be so nice and perfect for them

        BM has awesome live betting
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        • DISTROYA
          SBR MVP
          • 04-26-12
          • 2911

          #5
          DSI has same format/lines treat me much better and automatic diamond membership they offered. oh well, as long as I dont die in 2 months I guess Ill be clear. By far my fave book is heritage BTW...as for live betting on bookmaker, they use diamond sportsbook format which used to have 3rd quarter and 2nd half team total lines, now all they have is side and total, everything else "frozen" or not available. I asked them over and over again why they dont offer any more 3rd quarter live lines, in progress quarters etc. still havent gotten a clear answer. all I get is "youve come to the right place!" bull. I dont want everything perfect this is not a perfect world and I am not an amateur bettor, but their policies arent reasonable IMO Tha top...some reason my tier level not going up, they only give me gold options even after 20,000 points.
          Last edited by DISTROYA; 10-16-13, 01:56 PM.
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          • bobbywaves
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-06-08
            • 13280

            #6
            Originally posted by DISTROYA
            some reason my tier level not going up, they only give me gold options even after 20,000 points.
            Because you need 30,000 pts to have Platinum status.

            Reward Levels:

            There are three tier levels within the BetPoints™ Rewards Program, Gold, Platinum, and Diamond. You will receive distinctive benefits and privileges with each tier.
            • Gold Reward Level
            • Platinum Reward Level
            • Diamond Reward Level

            Gold Reward Level

            From 0 to 29,999 BetPoints™: Qualify for instant Gold status upon signing up!
            <dl class="inlineTxt"><dt>Benefits You Will Earn: </dt><dd>For every re-load of $300 or more receive:</dd><dd class="bullet">10% free play deposit bonus*
            (3 time rollover required, max bonus awarded $500)</dd><dd class="bullet">All depositing fees reimbursed</dd><dd class="bullet">1 FREE DC payout per month (30 day period) (must be $300 or more)</dd><dd> </dd></dl>
            Platinum Reward Level:

            From 30,000 to 299,999 BetPoints™: After earning 30,000 BetPoints™ in a 12 month period, your account will be moved to the Platinum level of the rewards program.
            <dl class="inlineTxt"><dt>Benefits You Will Earn:</dt><dd>For every re-load of $300 or more receive:</dd><dd class="bullet">10% free play deposit bonus*
            (3 time rollover required, max bonus awarded $750)</dd><dd class="bullet">All depositing fees reimbursed</dd><dd> </dd><dd>Plus, Platinum Members also get:</dd><dd class="bullet">1 FREE Debit payout per month (30 day period) (must be $300 or more)</dd><dd class="bullet">And your BetPoints™ earn you 10% more than Gold Level</dd></dl>
            Diamond Reward Level:

            From 300,000 and up: After earning 300,000 BetPoints™ in a 12 month period, your account will be moved to the Diamond level of the rewards program.
            <dl class="inlineTxt"><dt>Benefits You Will Earn:</dt><dd>For every re-load of $300 or more receive:</dd><dd class="bullet">15% free play deposit bonus*
            (4 time rollover required, max bonus awarded $3000)</dd><dd class="bullet">All depositing fees reimbursed.</dd><dd> </dd><dd>Plus, Diamond Members also get:</dd><dd class="bullet">Access to 24/7 dedicated VIP customer service representatives with special toll free number.</dd><dd class="bullet">2 FREE Debit payouts per month (30 day period) (must be $300 or more)</dd><dd class="bullet">And your BetPoints™ earn you 10% more than Platinum Level.</dd></dl>
            *Basic free play rules apply.
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            • capone1899
              SBR MVP
              • 06-16-11
              • 1054

              #7
              Was going to transfer 5k from another book to Bookmaker and they told me there would be a 3x rollover before I could withdraw. A penetrating 3x rollover on my own money? What a damn joke!!

              Then they said I could withdraw my money from my current book and deposit with them. Like I want to do 5-6 **'s to get that type of money in their book. They can go screw themselves because it will be a cold day in hell before I put one cent in that shit book.
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              • relaaxx
                SBR MVP
                • 06-15-06
                • 3281

                #8
                fees are ridiculous - you shouldn't need points to take out your own money. 1 free payout a month seems what is normal for most books. most books only need a 1x roll for transfers in. no other book charges for book to book transfers. the dc card while free from any payment to them and their cheapest way to withdraw from bookmaker is not free. fees per month just for having the card if you are using it or not. and your bank will probably charge for withdrawal fees. my bank has a $250 limit a day and a $2.50 charge per withdrawal. maybe i should change banks. easier to change books. i've been complaining about this for a while ever since they charged me $200 to close my account and send all funds to another book. this is because my check withdrawal had processor problems and was told they would start withdrawal over again after i called in 2 weeks to find out what happened. they did not contact me i had to call them. every book has problems most try to compensate for their being incapable to deliver on time. they just seemed not to care at all. i was told just make up your mind how you want the withdrawal. you know the fees there are no exceptions. they would not lower the $200 fee for the transfer at all or offer any compensation for any type of lower withdrawal fee.
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                • bobbywaves
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-06-08
                  • 13280

                  #9
                  Need to change banks not books, there's no limit with TD Bank. Whatever balance I have on my DC I can withdraw, & with no additional fees from TD Bank. It only costs $11 from the third party DC bank (7Capital), to withdraw $2,400.
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                  • relaaxx
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-15-06
                    • 3281

                    #10
                    5dimes-heritage-hollywoodsportsbook 1 free payout a month. completely free. can withdraw more than twice the amount at a time. real easy. and if i need to transfer it's free w/1x roll(no transfers at hollywood). my choice is to not play where you have to pay for payouts, all the time. plus the huge fee for transfers keeps me away from bookmaker. but i get it too. they pay. you don't think it's a hassle. you don't mind paying a small amount for payouts. but the lines are also better at most books. at least at the ones i mentioned. so why play there. is my attitude. but,to each his own.
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                    • marks
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 07-20-07
                      • 9

                      #11
                      I sympathize with you. I'm experiencing the same problems with them. They hold your money hostage with there silly withdrawal rules. Now they took away my bet points because I was apparently making too many bets lol. I'm done with them I'm going to transfer to other books. No way they should be rated for professions. No problems with 5 dimes and they are rated recreational!
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                      • bobbywaves
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-06-08
                        • 13280

                        #12
                        Bookmaker/DSI are just 2 of my outs, where I get 2 free payouts/month. I also have 5Dimes, Heritage, & 18th hole in my arsenal for line shopping. There are times when Bookmaker will have the best line. 1 free DC withdraw per month from 5 Dimes, $2,500 max. Additional payouts would cost $40. 1 free cashiers check from Heritage per month, $3,000 max. Additional payouts costs $50. So paying $22 for 5k withdraw via Bookmaker/DSI is obviously not bad, compared to other books. My transfers between Bookmaker/DSI are free, just a 3x roll. At 18th Hole I enjoy 1 free payout per week. Wherever you decide to play, good luck.
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                        • andywend
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-20-07
                          • 4805

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DISTROYA
                          Transferred some funds from another book to open up. Doubled the money and rolled over as required (3x)...got a 5 figure balance now, but they only allow 2500 at a time withdrawals, once a week, and charge $50 for each one, not even one free payout a month or anything of the sort. I have to wait a good 2-3 months to clear out. I asked them to transfer all funds back to original book, they said "you must process 2 withdrawals first" LMAO, why? And the final nail in coffin, each book transfer, should you finally get 2 payouts and then request, costs $100 per 5k! Of course no fees coming in. I have never heard a book transfer fee. Cant wait to clear out what a joke, regret big time moving any funds here. And of course the one time I do win it happens to be these draggedy-arse books that take forever to payout. This site usually has a good grade and ringing endorsements, I for one am very displeased and wont wager another cent until all funds moved out of this joke of a payout/transfer system.
                          This seems like a case of hitting and running and I don't mind when those who do that get nailed in some way. I sure hate when people do that at the poker tables.
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                          • DISTROYA
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-26-12
                            • 2911

                            #14
                            Originally posted by andywend
                            This seems like a case of hitting and running and I don't mind when those who do that get nailed in some way. I sure hate when people do that at the poker tables.
                            .....so, if I go play blackjack at a table, double my money, I deserve not to get paid just because I have the sense to stop?
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                            • DISTROYA
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-26-12
                              • 2911

                              #15
                              your argument has zero basis; I rolled over what is required; 7500 x3 rollover is hardly hitting and running. Wiining money and asking for a withdrawal is not hitting and running my friend. 2 withdrawals before a transfer is lame, and $200 trasnfer fee is unheard of for 5000+, when heritage and 5dimes, do it for free no hassles. And I also have noticed my betpoints not adding up; they are barely adding points after $1000's risked daily.
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                              • teaserpleaser
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-14-08
                                • 26016

                                #16
                                Originally posted by relaaxx
                                5dimes-heritage-hollywoodsportsbook 1 free payout a month. completely free. can withdraw more than twice the amount at a time. real easy. and if i need to transfer it's free w/1x roll(no transfers at hollywood). my choice is to not play where you have to pay for payouts, all the time. plus the huge fee for transfers keeps me away from bookmaker. but i get it too. they pay. you don't think it's a hassle. you don't mind paying a small amount for payouts. but the lines are also better at most books. at least at the ones i mentioned. so why play there. is my attitude. but,to each his own.
                                you should be using them for what they are there for ....Live -game wagering use other books for straight wagering should be noted though bookmaker sometimes has better odds on props than heritage and 5dimes amongst other things. Bookmaker is pretty much for live betting for me at least. The DC is the shit by the way
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                                • rangerz2478
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-06-12
                                  • 1194

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                  I have 2 DC's, allowing me to withdraw 5k/week. I also get 2 free payouts every 30 days, as I'm a Diamond member.
                                  How long have you been with bookmaker? I was with them no more than 6 months and they removed me entirely from the betpoints promotion.
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                                  • rangerz2478
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-06-12
                                    • 1194

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DISTROYA
                                    your argument has zero basis; I rolled over what is required; 7500 x3 rollover is hardly hitting and running. Wiining money and asking for a withdrawal is not hitting and running my friend. 2 withdrawals before a transfer is lame, and $200 trasnfer fee is unheard of for 5000+, when heritage and 5dimes, do it for free no hassles. And I also have noticed my betpoints not adding up; they are barely adding points after $1000's risked daily.
                                    Are you doing a lot of live betting? Live betting doesn't count towards betpoints OR rollover. I think the rollover part of that is kinda ridiculous.
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                                    • bostonboss
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-04-09
                                      • 3169

                                      #19
                                      they took mine away in 8 or 9 months
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                                      • teaserpleaser
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-14-08
                                        • 26016

                                        #20
                                        now if only the bookmaker website would stop crashing and not coming up everything would be roses.
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                                        • wilson1
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 05-01-12
                                          • 205

                                          #21
                                          BM has a WD option for 10k or higher. expensive but fast. best way to go.
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                                          • wilson1
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 05-01-12
                                            • 205

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DISTROYA
                                            Transferred some funds from another book to open up. Doubled the money and rolled over as required (3x)...got a 5 figure balance now, but they only allow 2500 at a time withdrawals, once a week, and charge $50 for each one, not even one free payout a month or anything of the sort. I have to wait a good 2-3 months to clear out. I asked them to transfer all funds back to original book, they said "you must process 2 withdrawals first" LMAO, why? And the final nail in coffin, each book transfer, should you finally get 2 payouts and then request, costs $100 per 5k! Of course no fees coming in. I have never heard a book transfer fee. Cant wait to clear out what a joke, regret big time moving any funds here. And of course the one time I do win it happens to be these draggedy-arse books that take forever to payout. This site usually has a good grade and ringing endorsements, I for one am very displeased and wont wager another cent until all funds moved out of this joke of a payout/transfer system.

                                            the once a week is true... but if you have more than 10k there is a wd option to get it all.. and its fast
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                                            • bobbywaves
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 05-06-08
                                              • 13280

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by wilson1
                                              BM has a WD option for 10k or higher. expensive but fast. best way to go.
                                              Worst way to go. Not only expensive, but it's reported. DC is obviously the best way to go.
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                                              • goduke
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-17-10
                                                • 11580

                                                #24
                                                The people who are complaining here really need to look into what they are bitching about. Its easy to get cheap or free withdrawals, its easy to withdraw a decent amount quickly. And honestly transferring from different books is a luxury not essential. Cash out your money in that book and deposit some in the other and you avoid all that rollover stuff. These are dumb complaint
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                                                • rangerz2478
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-06-12
                                                  • 1194

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                  Worst way to go. Not only expensive, but it's reported. DC is obviously the best way to go.
                                                  DC is an option for 2500 at a time. You realize there are many bookmaker customers who need to withdraw far more than 2500 at a time.
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                                                  • DISTROYA
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-26-12
                                                    • 2911

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by goduke
                                                    The people who are complaining here really need to look into what they are bitching about. Its easy to get cheap or free withdrawals, its easy to withdraw a decent amount quickly. And honestly transferring from different books is a luxury not essential. Cash out your money in that book and deposit some in the other and you avoid all that rollover stuff. These are dumb complaint
                                                    its not dumb; its called making valid points and helping others be aware
                                                    If thats dumb you need to submit redefining the word to websters...I wouldve never deposited here had I known can only take out 2500 at a time and charged 100 to 200 for a book to book transfer...I praise books as well as point out their deficiencies....y'all haters need to chill.
                                                    live betting dont do much they just give about .25 point for every dollar risked for regular bets so another gip.
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                                                    • DISTROYA
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-26-12
                                                      • 2911

                                                      #27
                                                      Cashing out 2500 at a time got first withdrawal. One more then gonna transfer rest to book pay 200 fee and be done with them
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                                                      • wilson1
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 05-01-12
                                                        • 205

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by rangerz2478
                                                        DC is an option for 2500 at a time. You realize there are many bookmaker customers who need to withdraw far more than 2500 at a time.
                                                        correct.. and it gets reported? to who or what. why is that a big deal? i guess im screwed
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                                                        • bobbywaves
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-06-08
                                                          • 13280

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by rangerz2478
                                                          DC is an option for 2500 at a time. You realize there are many bookmaker customers who need to withdraw far more than 2500 at a time.
                                                          "Need to" withdraw far more than $2,500 at a time? No. Would like to withdraw more than $2,500/week? Sure. Anything over 10k will incur excessive fees & more importantly get reported. I have 31k in DSI & $2,500/week is plenty. The $11 DC fee makes it very cost efficient.

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                                                          • wilson1
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 05-01-12
                                                            • 205

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                            "Need to" withdraw far more than $2,500 at a time? No. Would like to withdraw more than $2,500/week? Sure. Anything over 10k will incur excessive fees & more importantly get reported. I have 31k in DSI & $2,500/week is plenty. The $11 DC fee makes it very cost efficient.

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                                                            good to know... i will say that ive been recieving money the other way for years without any problems
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                                                            • rangerz2478
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-06-12
                                                              • 1194

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by wilson1
                                                              correct.. and it gets reported? to who or what. why is that a big deal? i guess im screwed
                                                              He is talking about "reporting" when it comes to evading his taxes. If he is a consistent winning player and withdraws frequently, this is not something I would recommend.
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                                                              • rangerz2478
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-06-12
                                                                • 1194

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                                "Need to" withdraw far more than $2,500 at a time? No. Would like to withdraw more than $2,500/week? Sure. Anything over 10k will incur excessive fees & more importantly get reported. I have 31k in DSI & $2,500/week is plenty. The $11 DC fee makes it very cost efficient.

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                                                                Yes man. Need to. There are players on bookmaker (not me) who wager 50k+ per game. I would think a 50k player falls under the "need to" category.
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                                                                • bobbywaves
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 05-06-08
                                                                  • 13280

                                                                  #33
                                                                  If someone's betting 50k a game, apparently they don't care about the $900 withdrawal fee or claiming their winnings. However, they would be the minority.
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                                                                  • fsutomahawk
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 01-23-11
                                                                    • 122

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Do you people who complain about the fees realize the hoops they have to jump through to process some of these payments? If you don't like it then don't play there. Go play at Betonline or Bovada with your $200 limits, and sweat getting paid at all.
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                                                                    • clynnm17
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-08-10
                                                                      • 1360

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Email fairlinesonline@gmail
                                                                      stand up guys no BS... Just email them you will see
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