BetOnline is a scam

**BetOnline** · 10-19-10, 09:12 AM

An overwhelming number of square players love the new stuff and it really works for them--and with my volumes well above last year I hate to go back (plus big investment, owner did the original specification and it IS a big improvement over the old stuff). Rather FIX this. And it is, in October, largely fixed save for some players (fortunately vocal ones here so we HAVE been able to drill down and think we've finally maybe got what's killing Bubba and Mtneer others).

We'll see... look forward to getting back to work proper (and getting that mobile enabled site out)...
Alex

**mtneer1212** · 10-19-10, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by BetOnline

An overwhelming number of square players love the new stuff and it really works for them--and with my volumes well above last year I hate to go back (plus big investment, owner did the original specification and it IS a big improvement over the old stuff). Rather FIX this. And it is, in October, largely fixed save for some players (fortunately vocal ones here so we HAVE been able to drill down and think we've finally maybe got what's killing Bubba and Mtneer others).

We'll see... look forward to getting back to work proper (and getting that mobile enabled site out)...
Alex

And in Alex's defense, he has asked for my info to see if they can see what is slowing my account down. He has been very forthright and up front about the issues, and from a customer service perspective, been very good. BetOnline has the potential to be great, and they have come a long way in the last couple of years.

I do appreciate him coming on the forum to address these issues and take our feedback.

**Santo** · 10-19-10, 10:03 AM

Seems some kind of packet logger run on a few clients computers (with safety precautions) should help you drill to the cause.

**bubba** · 10-19-10, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by BetOnline

An overwhelming number of square players love the new stuff and it really works for them--and with my volumes well above last year I hate to go back (plus big investment, owner did the original specification and it IS a big improvement over the old stuff). Rather FIX this. And it is, in October, largely fixed save for some players (fortunately vocal ones here so we HAVE been able to drill down and think we've finally maybe got what's killing Bubba and Mtneer others).

We'll see... look forward to getting back to work proper (and getting that mobile enabled site out)...
Alex

i have used differnt internet connections and have the same problems. are you saying its my computers fault? are you saying the site runs perfectly smoothly for most people? im starting to assume its a bandwith issue to a degree cause the site seems to freeze up on me mostly during the busy times. im far from a computer expert but i am under the assumption that the site is bad for EVERYONE and most are too lazy to file complaints about it.

**pimike** · 10-19-10, 01:31 PM

Betonline is a top 5 book

**BetOnline** · 10-19-10, 03:05 PM

Thanks for the support and encouragement guys. I have dug into Bubba's Mtneer's Big John's, Peep's and a few other SBR guys accounts and have found ONE surprisingly small thing that all have in common that's not shared by ALL players... we'll have a fix in before the weekend.

If you DO have seem to have issues using our site, please do ping me your player id at AlexC -at- Betonline.com or pm me with it here. Hopefully this fix will finally sort it... I need some of you guys to lose some of those winnings back!

Cheers
Alex

**mtneer1212** · 10-19-10, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by bubba

i have used differnt internet connections and have the same problems. are you saying its my computers fault? are you saying the site runs perfectly smoothly for most people? im starting to assume its a bandwith issue to a degree cause the site seems to freeze up on me mostly during the busy times. im far from a computer expert but i am under the assumption that the site is bad for EVERYONE and most are too lazy to file complaints about it.

No, I think he is saying that is related to the setting for the account on their side.

**Jonah** · 10-19-10, 03:54 PM

No, Bubba...Site is freezing for me too...I have faith that this will be resolved soon...Def A for effort here.

**BetOnline** · 10-19-10, 04:19 PM

If Bubba's PC keeps freezing on him this weekend on BetOnline I WILL be sending my IT guy up to sit next to him and sort it out.
We have uncovered a freak bug that effects some players here-it's a database thing...

But Jonah to be honest, I don't see why YOUR account should have any issues whereas Mtneer, Bubba and Peep ALL had the same funky data in their record that I reckon the site was choking on. A new release has been scheduled for this week so hopefully sorted for this weekend.

DO let me know here or better at AlexC -at BetOnline.com if you experience problems in the sports section (other than picking the wrong sides). Please include your player id.

Cheers

Alex

**lt56** · 10-19-10, 05:55 PM

Alex; hope site works for me and friends this Sunday. I'll let you know if things improve, but you need server that can handle busy times--that's the main problem. It's very good your here communicating

**jasont** · 10-19-10, 05:58 PM

Ahhh, I dont like this site- I've been murdered here the past 6 months, yet I keep going back.

**Rollins08** · 10-19-10, 06:15 PM

I had huge problems on Saturday with the site freezing. I hate the way they have their site now. I know this had nothing to do with my computer because 5dimes was working just fine at the same time. There's to many steps to place a simple wager on Betonline now. It takes to long.

**bubba** · 10-19-10, 10:39 PM

does anyone play at betonline and NOT have the site freeze up on them? is this isolated to those complaing here or is it everyone? post here if betonline does not get stuck all the time for you......

**BetOnline** · 10-19-10, 10:51 PM

Bubba, the only people posting are those with issues. and as i said, if you're not sorted this weekend (I want to win my money back from you) I AM sending my IT guy up to figure it out if that's ok with you.

My betting volumes on the weekend (and overall actually) are kicking last years ASS. And after the September debacle, it's NOT via the call center (although a great alternative). I BELIEVE we've found the bug effecting you and Peep and Mtneer and almost EVERY player whose complained of issues and gave me their player id (except Jonah--and he's having problems all of the time not just peak for some reason--he's also like my only player in that US state...)

It IS frustrating as hell.. I DO believe it's on our side (code was well spec'ed--good features for most players--better than most other books, but poorly architected and executed and tested obviously).

AND working on plan B for access.

But we'll get there.

Have to.

"Success is my only motherf*ckin' option, failure's not!" ($25 free play awarded in morning to first PM with quote source).

Thanks

Alex

**mtneer1212** · 10-19-10, 11:44 PM

Thats an Eminem lyric from lose yourself. Not a fan, but I do recognize the lyric.

Let me know when the new release goes out.........

**bubba** · 10-20-10, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by BetOnline

Bubba, the only people posting are those with issues. and as i said, if you're not sorted this weekend (I want to win my money back from you) I AM sending my IT guy up to figure it out if that's ok with you.

My betting volumes on the weekend (and overall actually) are kicking last years ASS. And after the September debacle, it's NOT via the call center (although a great alternative). I BELIEVE we've found the bug effecting you and Peep and Mtneer and almost EVERY player whose complained of issues and gave me their player id (except Jonah--and he's having problems all of the time not just peak for some reason--he's also like my only player in that US state...)

It IS frustrating as hell.. I DO believe it's on our side (code was well spec'ed--good features for most players--better than most other books, but poorly architected and executed and tested obviously).

AND working on plan B for access.

But we'll get there.

Have to.

"Success is my only motherf*ckin' option, failure's not!" ($25 free play awarded in morning to first PM with quote source).

Thanks

Alex

was not looking to start trouble, i hope its fixed. its more curiosity on my part. if you say it has been working great for most, i believe you.

are you serious about sending an IT guy to sit with me if its not smoothe this weekend? my computer is a laptop and i have a wireless card that i use sometimes so i can come to you guys and show you the problem. im a little scared of flying but would make the trip to panama (at betonlines expense!)

alex- more curiosity. i dont know if you can answer these but what is your title at betonline? how long have you been there? and what book(s) did you work at before?

**ZetaPsi808** · 10-20-10, 02:39 AM

if durito says BetOnline is solid then I will be depositing there soon

**big joe 1212** · 10-20-10, 09:40 AM

It's freezing up on me at 10:30 a.m. !!!

I can log on, but when I click on Sports to get the lines it just says it's loading, but never loads!

**bu08usc11** · 10-20-10, 10:50 AM

Mine is the same way right now and it will also only show the Phillies line but not the Rangers/Yankees.

**bubba** · 10-20-10, 02:51 PM

only showed phillies game for me in google chrome. in firefox it showed both games. site was freezing up on me as usual in firefox

**Jonah** · 10-20-10, 02:54 PM

No Yankees game on Firefox here.

**bubba** · 10-20-10, 02:55 PM

site is brutal right now, wont load on firefox, wont show the yankee game on chrome. is anyone smoothly using it right now?

**BetOnline** · 10-20-10, 03:45 PM

Been working on this all day. We were able to replicate the issue on ONE PC--mine as it turns out. I couldn't see NBA lines or Yankees--yet there was Philly. MAKES NO SENSE!

We did reset a dodgy front end server again--it IS conceivable that your caching our lines and not getting the real-time stuff.. hence we always have you restart the browser and clear your caches.

Reminder: our 800 number for wagering is 1-800-883-9136.... We DID gets tons of action on the game through online, so we know it IS working for someone!

Still trying!

Alex

**Jonah** · 10-20-10, 03:56 PM

Thanks Alex. Just put the direct number in my phone. Don't know why I've been using the other one. Glad to hear it is working for most.

**big joe 1212** · 10-20-10, 06:57 PM

Oh Yeah, 1 more thing I forgot to mention...earlier today it kept logging me out for some reason when I'd click on something!

**JohnnyC** · 10-20-10, 07:13 PM

Alex bud your book is great, awesome CS and cashouts.

But bro. Fix your site, It's really really really bad.

**bubba** · 10-20-10, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by big joe 1212

Oh Yeah, 1 more thing I forgot to mention...earlier today it kept logging me out for some reason when I'd click on something!

this has happened to me before a few times too.

**bu08usc11** · 10-20-10, 11:35 PM

Tried in Safari too and its a no go.

**Santo** · 10-21-10, 01:59 AM

I'm sure it's one of the affiliates rather than BOL directly, but this creates a bad impression:

From: Sportsbook Review <top-rated-sportsbooks@hotmail.com>
Subject: Do you wager online? You need to open this...
Date: 21 October 2010 13:48:17 GMT+10:00

[Long email claiming to be from SBR shilling BetOnline promos/bonuses]

**moonbeam** · 10-21-10, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by durito

Not that this is news to most people here.

But, this book should not be trusted at all. SBR looks poor when they rate this place A-.

Don´t make me sick durito. I have a 25000 balance at betonline

**tkjohnny** · 08-07-13, 02:36 AM

Check this out,
I did some analyzing on the poker software, the flops , the turn, and the river, and the hands that were being played.
Here are my findings.
After 7056 hands that were analyzed by me a MIT graduate.
67.81% of the time there are doubles on the flop.
78.69% of the time when there is more then three people in the hand doubles hits the flop.
72.99% of the time the worst starting hand ends up winning the hand.
89.23% when you are dealt one of the five big starting hands, AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AK , someone else was dealt one of the five with 67.77% of the time the lower end hand wins.
48.49% of the time on the flop will come three of the same suite with 89.91% of someone hitting a flush.
23.00% of the time in a game you will see quads from three different people in a ten man tournament.
87.81% of the time when short stacked and your dealt a very good hand, AJ, A10,AQ,AK. and you go all in with one caller with a big stack, the big stack wins. 87.81% do you believe that one.

There is a lot more I could tell you people that I analyzed but you get the picture.
This site is rigged so bad that they don't even try to hide it, it takes someone like me to do the math and expose this cheating no good site.
Stay clear from this site ,trust me my math is always right.
Now go to poker odds and see the real odds on everything i just gave you, no where even close to what this crooked site is dealing to people.