NJ Gov Christie conditionally vetoes internet gambling bill (VIDEO)

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  • Jeffie
    SBR MVP
    • 04-06-12
    • 3428

    #36
    Originally posted by CanuckG
    Pokerstars about to return to America
    One time Dealer.
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    • rem sleep
      SBR MVP
      • 10-04-10
      • 1238

      #37
      I only cared if sports betting was included
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      • indio
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 06-03-11
        • 751

        #38
        You are getting a lot of bad information on this. Chris Christie ENDORSED THE BILL, all he wants is a little more tax revenue and a 10 year date to reevaluate. The bill will easily get 50%+ votes and he'll sign it into law. All of us Poker Players realize this means legal online poker in New Jersey this year, and yet, you'd think he didn't endorse it by reading this thread. Also, Lesniak was OVERJOYED with the conditional veto with minor changes, that's an endorsement. Yet, SBR Natalie quotes Lesniak from 2 weeks ago, when Christie was expressing doubts on a radio station.

        A conditional veto with his endorsement is about as good as we could hope for, and he'll be signing this into law in the next 2 months. PokerStars is full steam ahead on buying their Atlantic City casino, and all is well.

        I guess this isn't the place if you want to be informed of the meaning of legal actions, and misinforming SBR readers by using Lesniaks quotes from weeks ago, instead of his actual quotes after the conditional vote where he said he was overjoyed and congratulated the governor is just downright embarrassing for the SBR staff who obviously didn't know what really was going on in this major development.
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        • SBR Forum
          Administrator
          • 12-02-06
          • 4559

          #39
          Originally posted by indio
          You are getting a lot of bad information on this. Chris Christie ENDORSED THE BILL, all he wants is a little more tax revenue and a 10 year date to reevaluate. The bill will easily get 50%+ votes and he'll sign it into law. All of us Poker Players realize this means legal online poker in New Jersey this year, and yet, you'd think he didn't endorse it by reading this thread. Also, Lesniak was OVERJOYED with the conditional veto with minor changes, that's an endorsement. Yet, SBR Natalie quotes Lesniak from 2 weeks ago, when Christie was expressing doubts on a radio station.

          A conditional veto with his endorsement is about as good as we could hope for, and he'll be signing this into law in the next 2 months. PokerStars is full steam ahead on buying their Atlantic City casino, and all is well.

          I guess this isn't the place if you want to be informed of the meaning of legal actions, and misinforming SBR readers by using Lesniaks quotes from weeks ago, instead of his actual quotes after the conditional vote where he said he was overjoyed and congratulated the governor is just downright embarrassing for the SBR staff who obviously didn't know what really was going on in this major development.
          Don't think you read the whole article. Title's a bit sensational by design, the same as many other sites.
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          • lt56
            SBR High Roller
            • 04-16-10
            • 151

            #40
            Originally posted by rem sleep
            I only cared if sports betting was included
            Agreed. I only do sports betting. Horse racing takes way too much off the top with exactas and triples taking a good 25-30% as a vig. And Online poker is 100% rigged against the players and all players lose at it. So if sports betting isn't part of the NJ bill, then who cares. It's pathetic to live in the so called land of the free and have to send money to South America to bet on sports
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            • wantitall4moi
              SBR MVP
              • 04-17-10
              • 3063

              #41
              They dont care about sports betting because the take isnt there for them. I have run the number a billion times to show the revenue isnt there.

              They would make more money if they charged a 1,000,000 dollar license fee than they would on taxes, even 15%. Books are going to average a 5-6% profit. NJ would get 15% of whatever that number is. Vegas handles around 2 billion a year in sports bets. They profit about 100 million. So at 15% thats 15 million in tax revenue.

              Here is an article that shows what Vegas has done



              More money now being wagers I am sure so the numbers have probably risen since 1984, as have profits margins, but still the numbers dont lie. Unless they tax every bet, winners and losers the money just isnt there.

              Online shit is obvious, they can fix that with ease and sucker people into playing it and rigging the game. Plus they can tax it more freely and probably also double dip without anyone noticing or caring. Sports bettors for the most part are a lot more intelligent, or at least can track where the money goes a lot more easily than degenerates betting into an RNG.
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              • darrell74
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-16-07
                • 14649

                #42
                Originally posted by pavyracer
                If I ever run for President I would run on this platform:

                1. Legalize all forms of gambling.
                2. Legalize all forms of drugs.
                3. Abolish the drinking age limit.
                4. All guns are allowed even military style guns.

                Will you vote for me?
                I'd not only vote for you, I'd run through a wall for you.
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                • Peregrine Stoop
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-23-09
                  • 869

                  #43
                  Christie wants more controls for problem gamblers as well

                  this is getting done
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                  • stevenash
                    Moderator
                    • 01-17-11
                    • 65301

                    #44
                    All you people blasting Christie seem to forget he replaced the biggest failure in NJ politics, that would be Jon Corzine.
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                    • indio
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 06-03-11
                      • 751

                      #45
                      Originally posted by SBR Forum
                      Don't think you read the whole article. Title's a bit sensational by design, the same as many other sites.
                      You are right about me not reading the whole article. With headlines and lead-ins so boderline fraudulent, why would I?
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                      • indio
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 06-03-11
                        • 751

                        #46
                        Originally posted by lt56
                        Agreed. And Online poker is 100% rigged against the players and all players lose at it.
                        Sorry to spoil your delusions, but many online poker players do quite well. I never had a losing year from 2004 on, and made more than 40k a year from online poker and rakeback every year since 2007. Thinking it's rigged is about as ridiculous a notion as one can have, although I'm sure you, like most in the "rigged" theory world, need a reason for losing other than perhaps you play terrible and rather than using all the tools available to actually improve and get better, you'd rather subscribe to the notion that no one else can win either if I can't.
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