EZ Street's "Bailout" of BetIslands: Doing the Math

[raiders72001]

Never heard of one sportsbook hosting another sportsbook? Did you compare their lines? Why didn't EZStreet come to the rescue immediately? Why did BI shop around and try to get another book to bail players out? It's BI and 7Red that are married.

[HedgeHog]

When it comes to rodeos you're definitely the clown. How can you get bailed out by the company that just robbed you?!?

BI/EZ just robbed a player of his balance and now they tell him that if he deposits 50% of the value of that account they'll let him spin the wheel again? That's the deal? Heads I win, tails you lose. If the player wins they refund his 50% deposit on trumped up charges of sharp action and consortium play. If he loses, WELL, heist profits just increased 50%! These assholes must have friends on WallStreet who gave them the Bank Bailout Handbook. Rob and steal until there ain't nothing left to take and move on. You would have to be INSANE to send the company that was processing the deposits of the company that just robbed you another dime!

Here's my theory as I have stated repeatedly over the past month:

Jon the homeless bookie makes a deal with EZ to process money and use a few desks in their office and tap into their infrastructure (clerks, internet etc). EZ agrees for a cut of the profits but guess what? The profits are not forth coming because Jon is either stupid and thinks he'll overcome the sharp action he's getting OR he's pulling some kind of scam to skim money and is in cahoots with some players.

Either way EZ brass finds out they're hooked up with a loser deal and figure that they can just pull the plug on the whole thing, keep the money held in reserve and blame BI Jon for it. Did any of you read the ridiculous EZstreetPete/7RedFred posts at the AreX? I mean really? These idiots create 2 Dr.Suess rhyming name accounts trying to deny they ever had a deal in the first place after months of BI statements to the contrary (Keep in mind BI originally denied being in bed with them, now the tables have turned). The same people answered the phones and managed accounts at all 3 companies from the SAME OFFICE, and now ex-BI guys are being "rehired" at EZ!?!

How stupid do these scum thieving mafia wannabes think we are? All thinking gamblers, whether they lost money or not, should be insulted by this "bailout" offer. This incident should put up red flags for everyone with money off shore. It's a shell game. Stick with companies with 10+ years in the biz.

SBR and BI
AreX and EZ/7Red (Cricket central on all of this, another sellout disgrace to the industry)

2 sides of the same coin and no one taking responsibility for anything. These can no longer be considered "watchdog" sites because the whole F$#k'n thing is all about the payola for damage control, PR and marketing. The fundamental nature of these forums has evolved and no longer has the players best interest at heart. However, they still provide a voice for the masses and can exert "some" pressure on the powers that be (Like the suggestion box at the IHOP).

The bottom line for those who got burned is ask yourself, who had that big bag of money when the music stopped playing at BI?
It wasn't Jon, it wasn't Ryan, it wasn't the mystery financial backer who was sitting in jail. It was the people who were processing the deposits of BI players and that was OBVIOUSLY done by EZ and co. I mean how much more F$#King clear can it be? After all the BI guys had been turfed who answered their phones and took the players money before they pulled the plug and disconnected the website? EZTHIEf for crying out loud!!!

It is such a clear case of fraud and lies and scamming and petty little backend deals with SBR and AreX I just want to puke. I love betting on football and these forums are fun and interesting but our offshore bookies and watchdogs are a bunch of punk ass bitch liars and snake oil pitch men!!!

Ba-Humbug! Screw you EZthief and your pathetic gang of crooks!

Raiders the rodeo clown--love that image! He's really pushing hard for this EZ "bailout". Have to wonder what's in it for him?

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Never heard of one sportsbook hosting another sportsbook? Did you compare their lines? Why didn't EZStreet come to the rescue immediately? Why did BI shop around and try to get another book to bail players out? It's BI and 7Red that are married.

Then why did betislands take over EZstreet's 42k debt to cory1111?

They may not be 100% the same, but they were clearly intertwined before this mess.

[pgaromes82]

How does RAIDERS keep defending this EZSTREET mess? Anybody with a half a brain can clearly see whats going on here. He says hes just defending math but you argue with each poster on here about EZSTREET. It seems like you are involved with these crooks.

[the_orangekat]

Great post by the OP

[raiders72001]

How does RAIDERS keep defending this EZSTREET mess? Anybody with a half a brain can clearly see whats going on here. He says hes just defending math but you argue with each poster on here about EZSTREET. It seems like you are involved with these crooks.

What has EZStreet done wrong? It's BI and SBR. I never said to deposit with EZStreet.

[Derp]

You're a dumbass and you don't have any idea what you're talking about. Once again, not recommending EZStreet, just pointing out the misinformed comments. Tell me when EZStreet opened their doors?

And you're a child who wanders in half way through the movie and wants to tell everyone the plot. This is such obvious and blatant theft and extortion by EZ that no bailout offer from them is justified. BI/EZ/7Red were all joined at the hip for months. They have player deposits in their coffers, if they don't give the money back to the account holders they're stealing plain and simple. It's a complete farce and it sounds like you need to take a trip back to the archives before you start calling other people misinformed.

If it matters EZstreet has been around for maybe 3 years and they've been a chickenSh%T scam book since day one.

[raiders72001]

Then why did betislands take over EZstreet's 42k debt to cory1111?

They may not be 100% the same, but they were clearly intertwined before this mess.

They didn't pay it. Another story.

[raiders72001]

Everyone that joined the forums in 2012 thinks that they know what they are talking about. One guy has 2 posts. lol

Justin said that the ownership is different.

[raiders72001]

If it matters EZstreet has been around for maybe 3 years .

Wrong but I still wouldn't play there.

[BranchDavidian]

They didn't pay it. Another story.

That is somehow supposed to show that they aren't related? They didn't pay me either - according to your amazing logic, that means I wasn't intertwined with BI. Why don't you tell all of us to "move on" again?

[raiders72001]

That is somehow supposed to show that they aren't related? They didn't pay me either - according to your amazing logic, that means I wasn't intertwined with BI. Why don't you tell all of us to "move on" again?

What are you talking about? That has nothing to do with them not being related. Justin said they aren't related. Move on.

[bettilimbroke999]

EZStreet is about to be B rated....great management/customer service and the usual industry respected solid financial backing you can depend on

[BranchDavidian]

Everyone that joined the forums in 2012 thinks that they know what they are talking about. One guy has 2 posts. lol

Justin said that the ownership is different.

Justin also said that Jon was the owner. Now the claim is that he was only the PR guy. SBR has been caught lying by posters, and you have been sent here to repeat those same lies? The guys that told the truth about BI back in November were first time posters also. You have a lot of posts, but repeating stupidity over and over only makes you less credible that any first time poster.

[BranchDavidian]

What are you talking about? That has nothing to do with them not being related. Justin said they aren't related. Move on.

You can't follow simple logic. You claim that since BI didn't pay Corey, that implies that BI and EZ weren't intertwined --- your stupid logic from post #43. That is what I am talking about. Why don't you just move right on out of this thread --- you really are making an idiot out of yourself.

[raiders72001]

You can't follow simple logic. You claim that since BI didn't pay Corey, that implies that BI and EZ weren't intertwined --- your stupid logic from post #43. That is what I am talking about. Why don't you just move right on out of this thread --- you really are making an idiot out of yourself.

Independent occurrences. I didn't imply anything. I just corrected the statement that someone made. We posted at another forum to stay away from BI before the stiff job. Who's the ass? The clowns that were praising BI.

[raiders72001]

and the shills were all the guys praising BI, not the guys against BI from the get go.

[BranchDavidian]

Independent occurrences. I didn't imply anything. I just corrected the statement that someone made. We posted at another forum to stay away from BI before the stiff job. Who's the ass? The clowns that were praising BI.

The fact that BI even said that they would pay Corey proves that BI and EZ are related. Yet you are here trying to convince everybody that they are not. How can any one person be so stupid?

[raiders72001]

The fact that BI even said that they would pay Corey proves that BI and EZ are related. Yet you are here trying to convince everybody that they are not. How can any one person be so stupid?

Where did EZ say that? Was it BI or EZ that said it? Jon made up a lot of crap. Weren't you one of the guys slobbering over Jon. It was embarrassing for grown men to do that.

[raiders72001]

If they were related and someone was going to pay the debt, it would have been EZStreet. They wouldn't want to ruin their rep.

[BranchDavidian]

Where did EZ say that? Was it BI or EZ that said it? Weren't you one of the guys slobbering over Jon. It was embarrassing for grown men to do that.

I guess this is why it is impossible to have a rational discussion with you. Either you can't read, or you just don't comprehend, or you purposely misstate the facts. What you quoted clearly states that BI ( not EZ )said they would pay Corey off --- are you gonna say that is false? Add to that that EZ has come to this forum to say that Jon misrepresented some of the facts when he claimed that BI bought out EZ and 7red.

[raiders72001]

I guess this is why it is impossible to have a rational discussion with you. Either you can't read, or you just don't comprehend, or you purposely misstate the facts. What you quoted clearly states that BI ( not EZ )said they would pay Corey off --- are you gonna say that is false? Add to that that EZ has come to this forum to say that Jon misrepresented some of the facts when he claimed that BI bought out EZ and 7red.

It doesn't matter what BI says. They are liars and thieves. EZ said they are liars. BI and 7Red are related. You were the one shilling for BI. Look in the mirror.

[HedgeHog]

If Raiders is done hijacking this thread, perhaps someone can explain to me how the EZ offer qualifies as a bailout. It's a new deposit bonus under the illusion (lie) of a bailout. It's worthless to anyone who had money stolen by BI.

[bettilimbroke999]

Raiders, I admit it is somewhat amazing that ppl were naive enough to have been openly shilling for that sketchy dump but it was in large part bc they were duped by SBR...hearing nothing but compliments from our "industry watchdog" site about their financial security, management and fast payouts along with their skyrocketing SBR rating that seemed to be going up daily made those more gullible members of the site believe they were solid.

Its time you let that shit go and focus on the current situation of this scambook EZ which is just another incarnation of BetIslands offering this joke "bailout" with a 50% deposit and 15x rollover to try to rob their same customers again

[BranchDavidian]

It doesn't matter what BI says. They are liars and thieves. EZ said they are liars. BI and 7Red are related. You were the one shilling for BI. Look in the mirror.

You are right about BI being liars. You are here repeating SBR lies. And I challenge you to find one post where I shilled for BI. I was a customer, and I did make some posts pointing out where other critical posts were incorrect -- until the end I believed what SBR told me, foolish me. But you will not find any posts by me steering others to BI or even touting them. I only pointed out falsehoods or bad reasoning. Just as I have done here with your repeated lies and bad reasoning. Again, explain to me why BI would say that they are going to pay Corey off.

[BranchDavidian]

Here is a question for ya Raiders. When Jon came out and said that their merger with EZ was a good mix since BI could make use of the EZ infrastructure, why didn't EZ deny that they were related?

[offshoreguy]

When it comes to rodeos you're definitely the clown. How can you get bailed out by the company that just robbed you?!?

BI/EZ just robbed a player of his balance and now they tell him that if he deposits 50% of the value of that account they'll let him spin the wheel again? That's the deal? Heads I win, tails you lose. If the player wins they refund his 50% deposit on trumped up charges of sharp action and consortium play. If he loses, WELL, heist profits just increased 50%! These assholes must have friends on WallStreet who gave them the Bank Bailout Handbook. Rob and steal until there ain't nothing left to take and move on. You would have to be INSANE to send the company that was processing the deposits of the company that just robbed you another dime!

Here's my theory as I have stated repeatedly over the past month:

Jon the homeless bookie makes a deal with EZ to process money and use a few desks in their office and tap into their infrastructure (clerks, internet etc). EZ agrees for a cut of the profits but guess what? The profits are not forth coming because Jon is either stupid and thinks he'll overcome the sharp action he's getting OR he's pulling some kind of scam to skim money and is in cahoots with some players.

Either way EZ brass finds out they're hooked up with a loser deal and figure that they can just pull the plug on the whole thing, keep the money held in reserve and blame BI Jon for it. Did any of you read the ridiculous EZstreetPete/7RedFred posts at the AreX? I mean really? These idiots create 2 Dr.Suess rhyming name accounts trying to deny they ever had a deal in the first place after months of BI statements to the contrary (Keep in mind BI originally denied being in bed with them, now the tables have turned). The same people answered the phones and managed accounts at all 3 companies from the SAME OFFICE, and now ex-BI guys are being "rehired" at EZ!?!

How stupid do these scum thieving mafia wannabes think we are? All thinking gamblers, whether they lost money or not, should be insulted by this "bailout" offer. This incident should put up red flags for everyone with money off shore. It's a shell game. Stick with companies with 10+ years in the biz.

SBR and BI
AreX and EZ/7Red (Cricket central on all of this, another sellout disgrace to the industry)

2 sides of the same coin and no one taking responsibility for anything. These can no longer be considered "watchdog" sites because the whole F$#k'n thing is all about the payola for damage control, PR and marketing. The fundamental nature of these forums has evolved and no longer has the players best interest at heart. However, they still provide a voice for the masses and can exert "some" pressure on the powers that be (Like the suggestion box at the IHOP).

The bottom line for those who got burned is ask yourself, who had that big bag of money when the music stopped playing at BI?
It wasn't Jon, it wasn't Ryan, it wasn't the mystery financial backer who was sitting in jail. It was the people who were processing the deposits of BI players and that was OBVIOUSLY done by EZ and co. I mean how much more F$#King clear can it be? After all the BI guys had been turfed who answered their phones and took the players money before they pulled the plug and disconnected the website? EZTHIEf for crying out loud!!!

It is such a clear case of fraud and lies and scamming and petty little backend deals with SBR and AreX I just want to puke. I love betting on football and these forums are fun and interesting but our offshore bookies and watchdogs are a bunch of punk ass bitch liars and snake oil pitch men!!!

Ba-Humbug! Screw you EZthief and your pathetic gang of crooks!

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[offshoreguy]

You're a dumbass and you don't have any idea what you're talking about. Once again, not recommending EZStreet, just pointing out the misinformed comments. Tell me when EZStreet opened their doors?

god you're dumb

[raiders72001]

Here is a question for ya Raiders. When Jon came out and said that their merger with EZ was a good mix since BI could make use of the EZ infrastructure, why didn't EZ deny that they were related?

No one stated there was a merger. Were their lines the same?

[raiders72001]

Another shill for BI. You get a cut offshoreguy?

05-26-12 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Betislands
Hey guys,

Heritage is a great book and a role model for us in many aspects of our business to be even be put in the same sentence as them is flattering.

With that being said , we offer certain things they dont and they offer certain things we dont it is a matter of what you are looking for.

I would usually not post in a thread like this but felt the need to pay my respects to a book like Heritage.

Cheers,

Jon

PS. Rob posting processing issues on the forum because the answers are not what you look for is not the best way to go.
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Glad to see BI has a presence here, I have long been a fan of your book. Good offererings and never had any problems getting paid. I do feel bad for robmpink though as I have had the same thing happen to me at adifferent book that I wont name. We're you guys ever able to resolve his issue?

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[offshoreguy]

As I previously stated I made that post to get Shari off my ass after getting banned for sending a PM to someone regarding a question they asked. Im not on trial here you are the one defending a thieving book not me.

[offshoreguy]

No one stated there was a merger. Were their lines the same?

Why would the lines have to be the same? Every book has multiple line sets.

[raiders72001]

Why would the lines have to be the same? Every book has multiple line sets.

Some books have multiple lines, not all.

[raiders72001]

As I previously stated I made that post to get Shari off my ass after getting banned for sending a PM to someone regarding a question they asked. Im not on trial here you are the one defending a thieving book not me.

you sucked up to Jon to get Shari off your ass. lol, you can't make this shit up.

[offshoreguy]

Some books have multiple lines, not all.

All of them do. You have never been inside a book so shut your trap.