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  • wrongturn
    SBR MVP
    • 06-06-06
    • 2228

    #36
    I know Bookmaker can take this with 100x roll because every line there is full juice, and baseball is worst at 20c. They won't lose much. But on the other hand they have nothing to gain. Their reputation is already like A+.
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    • Dark Horse
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-14-05
      • 13764

      #37
      I'm kind of hoping this is spot for Heritage. Anyway, I'm willing to deposit the equal amount of my BI loss, if the book covers that loss, and accept a 100x roll.
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      • gangeriver
        SBR MVP
        • 12-23-09
        • 2138

        #38
        I lost my 1K in betsportsweb 2 years ago. still nothing and I don't have any expectation.
        BI has 1 and a half million debt...no reason to be optimistic...I hope I'm wrong and you guys take your money
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        • wrongturn
          SBR MVP
          • 06-06-06
          • 2228

          #39
          Originally posted by Dark Horse
          I'm kind of hoping this is spot for Heritage. Anyway, I'm willing to deposit the equal amount of my BI loss, if the book covers that loss, and accept a 100x roll.
          I am willing to 100x too. If 100x only on the bailout amount, with matching deposit, the roll is 50x on total. Then the book only need to make 1% per bet to make the bailout cost even. Is my calculation right? Sounds like great deal to a book wanting to gain reputation.
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          • iQon
            SBR MVP
            • 04-08-10
            • 1483

            #40
            No bailout coming.

            The SBR Store should temporarily lift the ban on Free Plays and Cash for US members. The majority of the Bet Islands cult originated here, and they're almost exclusively US citizens. At least give us a chance to salvage our losses.
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            • Bill Dozer
              www.twitter.com/BillDozer
              • 07-12-05
              • 10894

              #41
              We have talked to a book this AM who is discussing it internally. These are always long shots but for those wondering about the mindset with other books, they would like to help.
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              • BranchDavidian
                SBR MVP
                • 08-29-10
                • 1014

                #42
                Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                We have talked to a book this AM who is discussing it internally. These are always long shots but for those wondering about the mindset with other books, they would like to help.
                Bill, I am really glad to hear this. I know of a C-rated book and a D+ rated book that are looking to help out their current funded customers with some sort of arrangement. I am wondering if accepting anything along these lines would end up nullifying any bailout for me that you guys might be able to work out later?
                Last edited by BranchDavidian; 12-22-12, 03:03 PM.
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                • Bill Dozer
                  www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                  • 07-12-05
                  • 10894

                  #43
                  We have talked to a good book earlier today who is trying to make sense of the user info available. It's going to be a few days before players know what if anything comes from this. We'll update this thread.
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                  • slyone66
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 10-08-09
                    • 578

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                    We have talked to a good book earlier today who is trying to make sense of the user info available. It's going to be a few days before players know what if anything comes from this. We'll update this thread.
                    [IMG]http://www.************.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Bill-Dozer-BetIslands.jpg[/IMG]
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                    • JasonDC
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 12-06-12
                      • 391

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                      We have talked to a good book earlier today who is trying to make sense of the user info available. It's going to be a few days before players know what if anything comes from this. We'll update this thread.
                      Please bring us some good news Bill..God knows i need some!
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                      • bubba
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-29-05
                        • 2432

                        #46
                        Originally posted by JasonDC
                        Please bring us some good news Bill..God knows i need some!
                        agrree
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                        • jcygts6
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-05-09
                          • 3316

                          #47
                          Any updates? I feel like i got sacked by betislands
                          DO WORK + KROW OD
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                          od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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                          • JasonDC
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 12-06-12
                            • 391

                            #48
                            Originally posted by jcygts6
                            Any updates? I feel like i got sacked by betislands
                            If you want an update it always helps to read the recent posts in the thread..go to post #47 by Bill Dozer of sportsbook review..it appears as though SBR is trying to get something done for us.
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                            • louis
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-23-06
                              • 763

                              #49
                              thank you for trying
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                              • Digo
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-21-12
                                • 563

                                #50
                                Originally posted by JasonDC
                                Every thread seems to be about who is at fault and what SBR knew and when they knew it..i want to know if there are people who still think there is a shot that we see our money..or at least some of it. I have pretty much given up any hope but i thought maybe somebody had some info. that might give me a reason to be optimistic.
                                I am with you, lucky i had a little balance. This money is like a miracle for me now. Something that i don't expect anymore.
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                                • CollegePro
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-23-09
                                  • 4006

                                  #51
                                  I think Dozer and I are talking about same company here.. maybe.. if we are, not that dozer is trying to do something for us.. the book company is trying to do something for us.
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                                  • MBENZ
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-07-07
                                    • 5238

                                    #52
                                    Don't know anything about them but Alliancesports has been blowing up my phone about BI.They must have a list of everybody that ever played at that shithole.Don't know any details,just thought I'd pass it on.
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                                    • Bill Dozer
                                      www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                      • 07-12-05
                                      • 10894

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by CollegePro
                                      I think Dozer and I are talking about same company here.. maybe.. if we are, not that dozer is trying to do something for us.. the book company is trying to do something for us.
                                      Meetings are going on today. At the risk of setting up for disappointment, we can say we are told there is a lot of discussion.
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                                      • sneak-a-peak
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-07-09
                                        • 1373

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                        Meetings are going on today. At the risk of setting up for disappointment, we can say we are told there is a lot of discussion.
                                        May I make a suggestion to SBR? I think if there is a book out there willing to help bail the players then SBR should do everything they possibly can to help try and make it happen. For example let that book off the hook for affiliate fees for quite sometime in the near future that way the book can earn more off of new business brought to them by SBR. Please make it as appealing as possible to help the players out and then Im sure that book will be praised around here for a long time
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                                        • bubba
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-29-05
                                          • 2432

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by sneak-a-peak
                                          May I make a suggestion to SBR? I think if there is a book out there willing to help bail the players then SBR should do everything they possibly can to help try and make it happen. For example let that book off the hook for affiliate fees for quite sometime in the near future that way the book can earn more off of new business brought to them by SBR. Please make it as appealing as possible to help the players out and then Im sure that book will be praised around here for a long time
                                          agreed. sbr owes the players that were scammed to do everything possible to encourage someone out there to make it right.
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                                          • JasonDC
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 12-06-12
                                            • 391

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by bubba
                                            agreed. sbr owes the players that were scammed to do everything possible to encourage someone out there to make it right.
                                            Bubba, SBR is obviously doing that right now..Bill Dozer has posted a couple times mentioning books were taking a look at the situation..then again today he said there were meetings going on..they are obviously working on our behalf now..lets see what they can do for us.
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                                            • SBR_John
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-12-05
                                              • 16471

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by sneak-a-peak
                                              May I make a suggestion to SBR? I think if there is a book out there willing to help bail the players then SBR should do everything they possibly can to help try and make it happen. For example let that book off the hook for affiliate fees for quite sometime in the near future that way the book can earn more off of new business brought to them by SBR. Please make it as appealing as possible to help the players out and then Im sure that book will be praised around here for a long time
                                              I can assure you we will not stand in the way of any deal whatsoever. To the contrary we are exploring every possibility no matter how much of a long shot.

                                              I would say the BetED case was just as hard and we did find a book ready to deal in that one. There were some notable advantages with BetEd over BI but a disadvantage or two as well. Having to deal this one during the holidays has added to the difficulty. Probably a 1 in 3 chance a strong white knight will step up. Not great odds but hopeful an industry leader will help out.
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                                              • JasonDC
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 12-06-12
                                                • 391

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                I can assure you we will not stand in the way of any deal whatsoever. To the contrary we are exploring every possibility no matter how much of a long shot.

                                                I would say the BetED case was just as hard and we did find a book ready to deal in that one. There were some notable advantages with BetEd over BI but a disadvantage or two as well. Having to deal this one during the holidays has added to the difficulty. Probably a 1 in 3 chance a strong white knight will step up. Not great odds but hopeful an industry leader will help out.
                                                Damn, i went from feeling optimistic to pessimistic after reading a 1 in 3 chance.
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                                                • TryingMyBest
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 611

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by JasonDC
                                                  Damn, i went from feeling optimistic to pessimistic after reading a 1 in 3 chance.
                                                  Did you even think there was a 1 in 3 chance a few days ago?
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                                                  • JasonDC
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-06-12
                                                    • 391

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by TryingMyBest
                                                    Did you even think there was a 1 in 3 chance a few days ago?
                                                    Absolutely not..but i had a pretty good feeling this might work out after reading Bill Dozer's post today saying there were meetings being held today and requesting that we email them..these 33% scenarios never work out for me.
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                                                    • gwills
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 10-22-11
                                                      • 948

                                                      #61
                                                      33% is better than the .00000000000000000001% I was expecting earlier this week.
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                                                      • gwills
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 10-22-11
                                                        • 948

                                                        #62
                                                        Thanks, Bill.
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                                                        • JasonDC
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 12-06-12
                                                          • 391

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by gwills
                                                          33% is better than the .00000000000000000001% I was expecting earlier this week.
                                                          You know 33% never works out when you need it to. I am also thankful to Bill and sbr for trying and keeping us updated pretty regularly.
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                                                          • offshoreguy
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 04-27-12
                                                            • 113

                                                            #64
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                                                            • sneak-a-peak
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-07-09
                                                              • 1373

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                              I can assure you we will not stand in the way of any deal whatsoever. To the contrary we are exploring every possibility no matter how much of a long shot.

                                                              I would say the BetED case was just as hard and we did find a book ready to deal in that one. There were some notable advantages with BetEd over BI but a disadvantage or two as well. Having to deal this one during the holidays has added to the difficulty. Probably a 1 in 3 chance a strong white knight will step up. Not great odds but hopeful an industry leader will help out.
                                                              Of course.... I dont think anyone here would expect you to "stand in the way". What I am suggesting is find a way to really sweeten the pot..... 1.5 is a lot and in my eyes the only way to make it right is to get it as close to never happening as possible so I think you guys need to pull out all the stops. You know its actually kind of funny because if there is a credible book out there that could crunch the numbers into their favor somehow with sbr's help and ALL balances accounted for they would instantly separate themselves from the rest of the pack in a hurry...... this could end up being a million dollar investment that could possibly payout huge dividends in the future if done right....... if no one steps up tho I think they will all feel the impact of this cuz its huge..... make no mistake of it.... its a big deal
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                                                              • JasonDC
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 12-06-12
                                                                • 391

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by sneak-a-peak
                                                                Of course.... I dont think anyone here would expect you to "stand in the way". What I am suggesting is find a way to really sweeten the pot..... 1.5 is a lot and in my eyes the only way to make it right is to get it as close to never happening as possible so I think you guys need to pull out all the stops. You know its actually kind of funny because if there is a credible book out there that could crunch the numbers into their favor somehow with sbr's help and ALL balances accounted for they would instantly separate themselves from the rest of the pack in a hurry...... this could end up being a million dollar investment that could possibly payout huge dividends in the future if done right....... if no one steps up tho I think they will all feel the impact of this cuz its huge..... make no mistake of it.... its a big deal
                                                                I agree that if someone steps up to bail out the BI players it will separate themselves from the pack in many peoples eyes, mine for sure..if a book helps me out here they are getting 100% of my action in the future..i hope they at least bail out the recreational players like myself who will make their business better in the future..dont get me wrong, the sharps are just as deserving in getting their money as i am but i could see how a book wouldn't want their future action so might not want to pay out the huge balances that many are owed.
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                                                                • SBR_John
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-12-05
                                                                  • 16471

                                                                  #67
                                                                  We don't have any control in these kind of deals outside of getting the info to the right people. They first look at how many of the players they already have. We will not have any financial involvement in any future deal assuming one materializes. The deal I mentioned earlier seemed to not go through because the marketer wanted to maintain their position or who knows why. None of that is an issue in this potential bailout.
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                                                                  • JasonDC
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 12-06-12
                                                                    • 391

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                                    We don't have any control in these kind of deals outside of getting the info to the right people. They first look at how many of the players they already have. We will not have any financial involvement in any future deal assuming one materializes. The deal I mentioned earlier seemed to not go through because the marketer wanted to maintain their position or who knows why. None of that is an issue in this potential bailout.
                                                                    Any idea as to when players might hear if something is going to happen? What if someone already has an account with the book who in considering a bailout?
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                                                                    • SBR_John
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-12-05
                                                                      • 16471

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by JasonDC
                                                                      Any idea as to when players might hear if something is going to happen? What if someone already has an account with the book who in considering a bailout?
                                                                      I think we will know something in a few days. There are only a couple big enough to make this happen. If a deal does go down those that have an account at the acquiring book will get the same deal as everyone.
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                                                                      • bettilimbroke999
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 02-04-08
                                                                        • 13254

                                                                        #70
                                                                        100x rollover...holy penetrate....that guy with a 260k balance would have to rollover 26 million dollars
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