An apology to all Betislands players

[HedgeHog]

When I spoke about payouts I believed what was said to me , I had no reason not to believe.. for over 2 years our payments went out like clockwork.

PS. I already called most of the books on the top of this page

This is why I am hoping this post will raise awareness on how this situation affects the industry as a whole

Believe me, the awareness has been raised. You've been lying for months now, particularly about EZ/7Red. First there was no connection. Then it was BI was buying them and going to pay Cory1111 his 46K (nice touch with that one as it made everybody believe BI had even deeper pockets). All the while it was actually BI that was broke and looking for a sucker (buyer). You're just the PR guy...right? Save it and move on to your next scam. You sicken me.

[harvesters]

I know you guys are mad. but lets focus on the answers in this thread while we have here.. we can bash him in another thread haha.. no need for people to play internet tough guys

Because you aren't getting answers, you are getting this self serving drivel that paints him as something he's not. He lied and lied. By his own admission he cited a storm that cost lives and homes when he knew it was a cash problem. How much worse can a person be?

[wtt0315]

My source says 200 k went missing with you Jon

[allin1]

Here it is:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/2000180-i-am-leaving-betislands.html

And now we are told the owner ran into "legal troubles"

It's gotta be one of the people busted in the Cantor Gaming/pinnacle scandal.

Yeah it's like the whole industry was affected by that Cantor Gaming/pinnacle scandal

Strange times. I think even carpedime and sbr_john posted recently that these are rough times and people should stick with A rated books because it can get ugly.

Even the JJGold departure happened at about the same time of the Cantor Gaming/pinnacle scandal

[Ra77er]

He's been trying to "retire" for months and left weeks ago....yet on the 7th as Cloverfield shows (evidence 1-25) you said things were rolling along.... business as fukkin usual..... everything's fine everything's fine. How clever that you "retire" all of a sudden at the perfect time. Making a post after the fact for "awareness" is bush league. Time to come clean.

[woodsy5822]

Because you aren't getting answers, you are getting this self serving drivel that paints him as something he's not. He lied and lied. By his own admission he cited a storm that cost lives and homes when he knew it was a cash problem. How much worse can a person be?

i agree nothing has been answered... he needs to own up to who this "backer'" is.?? how much did SBR know? when did he know BI players were screwed? and most importantly is he really that guy in that pic with all the tats lol?

[KGambler]

So if SBR "confirmed" that the owner of BI was an experienced bookmaker, that he was known in the industry and that he was financially secure... then they know his name. And if they know his name, then they know he was arrested back in October.

[Cuse0323]

Wow, what a joke but not surprising, I fckin knew this bubblegum book would go down, I tried to warn people but I just get called a hater who doesn't play there, well I had a reason. I hope you all get your money back somehow. Rot in hell Jon, your scumbag tattoos ain't gonna save you when someone comes looking for your ass.

[Cuse4tw]

Jon,

how is the blow in CR?

is it better when you blow it with out 100s, or do you like to use our 50s?

either way let me know if mia has a nice box, its the least you can do

[tto827]

I left for personal reasons weeks ago. The backing pulled out due to legal issues.

Some of you can call me a thief a fraud I was the GM for the company not the banker nor the financial decision maker. If the book at a time was performing correctly how can you blame the PR guy to speak good of the company? Which now I truly apologize for the situation that this has become.

Like I said I am hoping this situation will raise awareness in some of the larger books and will come in to help the players out , I knew this post would bring me nothing but hostility but like I said after my posting on the forum It was the least I could do.

As one of the managers of the company I felt you guys deserved that much.

I'm pretty impartial here Jon, never had money at BetIslands.

The GM of a company would know when shit is about to hit the fan, quite a coincidence that he packs up for "personal reasons" and then all hell breaks loose shortly thereafter. Giving you a chance to state specific "personal reasons" that you left, that do not include you not being paid because the money had stopped coming in.

If you really respected the clients, wouldn't this message, or something similar have been sent out at least a week earlier, what led you to make this post today?

It's a question of integrity, no matter what the financial support had told you, you must have known about their pending legal issues. There is little oversight to hold sportsbooks accountable, and you came in here telling the people to trust YOU. I understand it would have hurt the business, but there's a point at which you have to give up, and at least leave with some dignity.

So basically for everyone here, I think its time for you to answer the questions, not dodge them.
1) What were the personal reasons, and can anyone vouch for them?
2) Why wasn't this post made prior to today, when everything you have stated is basically just a repeat of what is now known?
3) As GM, were you really out of the loop on financial matters, and day to day business operations?

[mw00]

you know the saying by mark twain...

If You Never Lie, You Don’t Have To Remember Anything

[cloverfield]

When I spoke about payouts I firmly believed what was said to me why would I not? For 2 years our payouts went out just fine so I was doing my job.

Jon,

The financial backer left a few weeks ago.

11 days ago on here you said everything was fine...

IF THE FINANCIAL BACKER HAD LEFT..HOW THE HELL COULD YOU TRULY BELIEVE WHAT YOU "HEARD" THAT EVERYTHING WOULD BE FINE ON DECEMBER 7TH?!?!?!?!

It makes NO SENSE and doesn't ADD UP.

Plus you said you left a FEW WEEKS AGO... but 11 days ago you were on here posting as BetIslands saying everything is fine and people are overreacting.


CHEERS!

[Ra77er]

This guy, " I never pulled the trigger, I just helped bury the body"

[HedgeHog]

Posted by Jon last month:

Hi Pew,

We pay our clients , this is not something new.

If you could find me one single client that has never been paid from Betislands , you will get the benefit of the doubt.

We do more for our clients than most shops , rebates , bonuses , etc etc.

It is quite obvious there is an agenda here , but most importantly is there any evidence to show that we are not a good book?

Yes we had some tech issues for 36 hours due to the upgrade but clients sometimes fail to see the big picture, and I understand that which is why I always do my best to keep everyone happy.

We have expanded our betting cart , upgraded our software , and many more changes in the next week coming up.

Our payouts have always gone out like clockwork , and our clients for the most part are always satisfied.

Cheers

[allin1]

So if SBR "confirmed" that the owner of BI was an experienced bookmaker, that he was known in the industry and that he was financially secure... then they know his name. And if they know his name, then they know he was arrested back in October.

if this is true then this is more serious than I thought

[tarheelfan72]

I guess it would have been in everyone's best interest for Jon to say "We're on the brink of disaster if we don't find another backer, but please go ahead and keep making deposits."

Then all the threads would be from people who had money in their accounts screaming "WHY THE HELL DIDN'T YOU SEE IF YOU COULD FIND A BACKER BEFORE ANNOUNCING YOU WERE IN TROUBLE? AS SOON AS YOU ANNOUNCE YOU'RE IN TROUBLE THE PLACE IS DOOMED!!!"

[CollegePro]

Jon, just go kill yourself please before I find someone to do it.

[Cuse4tw]

1. Denial:

-People saying we will all be paid
-Who have they ever stiffed

2. Anger.
-Screw jon lets kill him
-death threats to ryan
-hate posts everywhere

3. Bargaining.
-well maybe we can get a bail out from a book
-it happened with betjamaica

4. Depression.
-SBR to blame, how could they do that to us
-we loved betislands what went wrong

5. Acceptance
-TBD

[bostonboss]

i think sbr should apologize and own up to scamming people....they are just as guilty in my book.

[KGambler]

I guess it would have been in everyone's best interest for Jon to say "We're on the brink of disaster if we don't find another backer, but please go ahead and keep making deposits."

Then all the threads would be from people who had money in their accounts screaming "WHY THE HELL DIDN'T YOU SEE IF YOU COULD FIND A BACKER BEFORE ANNOUNCING YOU WERE IN TROUBLE? AS SOON AS YOU ANNOUNCE YOU'RE IN TROUBLE THE PLACE IS DOOMED!!!"

I see what you are saying, but it's all over now. He can start telling the truth. But he has chosen not to.

I hope he doesn't plan on staying in this industry.

[HedgeHog]

1. Denial:

-People saying we will all be paid
-Who have they ever stiffed

2. Anger.
-Screw jon lets kill him
-death threats to ryan
-hate posts everywhere

3. Bargaining.
-well maybe we can get a bail out from a book
-it happened with betjamaica

4. Depression.
-SBR to blame, how could they do that to us
-we loved betislands what went wrong

5. Acceptance
-TBD

Sometimes people just skip these steps and go into a CR office building with an automatic weapon. Just saying....and not me of course.

[marcojuiceman]

Beware of BOL because if SBR said they are Solid its really the opposite

[Cuse4tw]

Sometimes people just skip these steps and go into a CR office building with an automatic weapon. Just saying....and not me of course.

Valid Point.

[chase hardy]

Jon why did u keep accepting sharp wagers when u were told repeatedly not too?

[CollegePro]

Beware of BOL because if SBR said they are Solid its really the opposite

so now everyone knows 1 v i c e is solid as rock!

[CollegePro]

My source says 200 k went missing with you Jon

probably needed that money for his cocaine use..

[HedgeHog]

Well BI is gone, but at least we have Betonline--B+ and SBR recommended. SBR couldn't possibly fukk up twice.... right?

PS Any chance at a bailout from this premiere book?

[SamDiamond]

What a joke.

This post paints this guy, and SBR in an even worse light.

"Jon" is telling us to "confirm" a "verifiable fact" with SBR that the financial backing of the operation left WEEKS AGO.

Yet, last night--- you still had "Ryan" and SBR telling everyone was processing issues.

This f'in thing is as dirty as it gets.

Honestly. You guys are f'd up. And Karma is a mean bitch.

[KGambler]

Jon why did u keep accepting sharp wagers when u were told repeatedly not too?

Yes, this tells me they never intended to pay. The last couple of months I was placing 50-60k in half point promo wagers per week. I found it strange they never bothered to shut me down on the promo. It's clear that for the last couple months they've been in deposit only mode and never had any intention of paying any winnings.

[benandjerry]

Just curious, wasnt a player on here banned for wrongfully receiving funds from BI and decided to keep them?

Remind me again, why would Jon still be able to post?


Earlier this month I spoke to you regarding alternative deposit methods, at which point you notified me you might soon be able to accept wire deposits. This was at your personal email. You've hardly been gone for weeks.

It appears as if you are a pathological liar.

[Delicious]

Eat a bullet you fukking lying pos.

[SamDiamond]

This guy is a scumbag.

So, today-- December 18th, he tells us he lost his financial backing WEEKS AGO.

Yet-- this is what he is telling this board..

We are implementing live betting next week

And this one..

Guys,

I would like to apologize for the delay some of you are going through , not being able to send checks is more of a headache for us than for anyone else since we have to deal with the limitations we have with person2person methods such as ** and **.

Again I understand this is not a norm for us , and most of you are growing impatient but we have always paid and will always pay our clients this is just a banking hurdle that we must deal with and we are trying to do our best by offering clients an alternative payment method.

The staff is doing their best to deal with this scenario so am I , people ARE getting paid just not as fast as we usually pay.

I am confident our checks will be back in 2 to 3 weeks and all will back to normal.

Consipracy theories and extremist posts dont change that , we are a business and just like every other business we suffer unexpected scenarios and we try and do what we can to smoothen the blow for our customers.

My posting has become limited , due to the fact that it aggravates me to see how some of you praise betislands and soon as the non deposit freeplays stop so does the praise. And whenever a customer has an issue they decide to come on SBR and magnify it by insulting me and Betislands.

I have always treated every single poster on this board and every single client with respect and will continue to do so.

My deepest apologies to everyone that is suffering a delay due to the checks , you can rest assured you will get paid and that we are indeed working around the clock to bring that payment method back.

Cheers

Jon

So this guy tells us he left weeks ago, but just 12 days ago, he's telling everyone about their payment issues, and their intention to offer live betting.

Honest. To. God.

[TryingMyBest]

Jon why did u keep accepting sharp wagers when u were told repeatedly not too?

Looking back I never would have been happier to be tossed from a book

[Mikail]

lie after lie. I hope these dirty scummy piece of shit lowlifes get what they deserve.

[Emily_Haines]

What a fuking loser. Backing pulled out who gives a fuk??? Most accounts were post up. There should have at least been some money to make partial payouts but instead you stole it all. I hope someone fuks you up really good so the next coksucker that decides to stiff everyone has something to think about before doing it.