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  • YPS
    SBR High Roller
    • 08-20-12
    • 111

    #1
    Betonline: $15,000 no pay. Day 49
    Looks like Sbr is no longer interested in this complaint.
    So this is my personal diary of betonlines no pay.

    What happened so far:
    August 21: payout requested for a 15k wire
    September 25: SBR complaint form filled.
    Lou answered: We were told BetOnline had to confirm your banking information. You will be contacted by a manager today and your payout should be received in five business days from that point.

    Still no payment

    Day 49 of betonlines no pay now

    Thank you
    Last edited by YPS; 10-09-12, 11:38 AM.
  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #2
    Hi YPS,

    Did that manager contact you?

    We'll follow up and ask what's going on.
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    • YPS
      SBR High Roller
      • 08-20-12
      • 111

      #3
      Yes he did. He contacted me at 25 September and I confirmed all the information I gave him several times before.
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      • marcojuiceman
        SBR MVP
        • 05-25-11
        • 2870

        #4
        Originally posted by YPS
        Yes he did. He contacted me at 25 September and I confirmed all the information I gave him several times before.
        October 9th 2012
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        • BigPage25
          SBR MVP
          • 04-17-12
          • 3571

          #5
          Shady ass book
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          • FreeFall
            SBR MVP
            • 02-20-08
            • 3365

            #6
            Lou wouldn't it be easier just to delete the thread and ban him?
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            • SBR Lou
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 08-02-07
              • 37863

              #7
              Originally posted by FreeFall
              Lou wouldn't it be easier just to delete the thread and ban him?
              No but I daydream about doing so to contributors like yourself. =)
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              • richsox24
                SBR High Roller
                • 01-10-10
                • 106

                #8
                Sounds about time for a betonline upgrade
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                • mrjambo
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 07-26-12
                  • 13

                  #9
                  Wow, long wait--Justice will come!
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                  • BigDaddy
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-01-06
                    • 8378

                    #10
                    49 days

                    that would make me want to stop gambling offshore.
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                    • YPS
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 08-20-12
                      • 111

                      #11
                      the unbelievable happened:
                      Day 50: payment arrived

                      Only $14,940 instead of 15k, I paid a $75 fee for the wire, so i think BO should cover the fees, or?
                      My bank doesn´t charge me a fee.

                      However, i´m happy so far

                      thanks for sharing,
                      thanks SBR
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                      • BigPage25
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-17-12
                        • 3571

                        #12
                        Congrats on your payout bro
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                        • YPS
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 08-20-12
                          • 111

                          #13
                          I have requested another $15,000 payout via wire today.
                          I hope this one doesn´t take 50 days.
                          I will update this from time to time.
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                          • GigaOuts
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-02-12
                            • 527

                            #14
                            Yeah. Congrat. I got my $$$ from BetOnline today too. If they just pay in a timely manner there will be less headache and bad press for them. And of course less works, stress, worry for their clients too.
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                            • YPS
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 08-20-12
                              • 111

                              #15
                              Day 3:
                              Looks like all the previous hassle with my betonline payout starts from the beginning:

                              Hi ***,

                              This is Dicky Curtis from Betonline,
                              Thank you for your payout request. We apologize for the inconvenience but your payout has been cancelled as you have not send the required documentation and the payout method requested is unfortunately not available.

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                              • GigaOuts
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-02-12
                                • 527

                                #16
                                Originally posted by YPS
                                Day 3:
                                Looks like all the previous hassle with my betonline payout starts from the beginning:

                                Hi ***,

                                This is Dicky Curtis from Betonline,
                                Thank you for your payout request. We apologize for the inconvenience but your payout has been cancelled as you have not send the required documentation and the payout method requested is unfortunately not available.

                                It is possible they using player balance to operate daily business expense, and likely pay each other ridiculous amountof money monthly like FullTilt. The CEO/President getting handsome paycheck so is the people underneath him so everyone is happy but they having problem coming up with fund to paid players, so the stall tactics continue until new funds is coming in. Those company using stall tactic likely won't survive, they likely crash sooner than later because the hole is getting bigger.

                                I been in the internet gambling over 10yrs, I have experience with delay cashout with bayou poker part of Ongame network and they when under soon as people report cashout delay. There is delay cashout at Fulltilt and many complain about ban and balance confiscation at Fulltill, I never had over $100 on there. I think there is a professional poker player name Blair Hinkle who won the major tournament over 1 millions on Fulltilt, he couldn't even cashout 8g+ a day, they use all kind of stall tactic on him.

                                I think the world can only support so many legit sportbooks, not all will survive. The sad true is many will steal from their client to stay a float. I just hope legit company like pokerstars open a sportbook soon like party poker. We need more people come out to report slow payout, or refuse payout due to ridiculous roll over rules.
                                Last edited by GigaOuts; 11-22-12, 02:16 PM.
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                                • YPS
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 08-20-12
                                  • 111

                                  #17
                                  Day 7:
                                  I had send the documents at 11-22 and now they trie to tell me they haven't received anything yet.
                                  As GigaOuts says, the stall tactic continues.
                                  This book is a neverending nightmare.
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                                  • ronald
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-31-05
                                    • 4918

                                    #18
                                    One thing is for sure: YPS is a big bettor!!
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                                    • DudleyDawson
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-10-12
                                      • 5658

                                      #19
                                      There's a direct affiliation with BO and SBR, sad to see.
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                                      • YPS
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 08-20-12
                                        • 111

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ronald
                                        One thing is for sure: YPS is a big bettor!!
                                        Not really that big, but to big for betonline it seems.
                                        But i think it doesn´t matter if you are a big bettor or not, looks like they trie to cheat everyone
                                        Crap book, not even worth a D+ rating imo
                                        Last edited by YPS; 11-26-12, 11:50 AM.
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                                        • touchback
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-08-12
                                          • 1227

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DudleyDawson
                                          There's a direct affiliation with BO and SBR, sad to see.
                                          Well...they are an advertiser and YPS did get a good size payout after all... at least they cant say they dont have his correct information to process this withdrawal since they recently paid him. YPS keep us posted, would like to hear how this one goes...
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                                          • touchback
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-08-12
                                            • 1227

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by GigaOuts
                                            It is possible they using player balance to operate daily business expense, and likely pay each other ridiculous amountof money monthly like FullTilt. The CEO/President getting handsome paycheck so is the people underneath him so everyone is happy but they having problem coming up with fund to paid players, so the stall tactics continue until new funds is coming in. Those company using stall tactic likely won't survive, they likely crash sooner than later because the hole is getting bigger.

                                            I been in the internet gambling over 10yrs, I have experience with delay cashout with bayou poker part of Ongame network and they when under soon as people report cashout delay. There is delay cashout at Fulltilt and many complain about ban and balance confiscation at Fulltill, I never had over $100 on there. I think there is a professional poker player name Blair Hinkle who won the major tournament over 1 millions on Fulltilt, he couldn't even cashout 8g+ a day, they use all kind of stall tactic on him.

                                            I think the world can only support so many legit sportbooks, not all will survive. The sad true is many will steal from their client to stay a float. I just hope legit company like pokerstars open a sportbook soon like party poker. We need more people come out to report slow payout, or refuse payout due to ridiculous roll over rules.
                                            This is exactly what half the services are doing... if all customers pulled out of most of these places at the same time they would be unable to pay... pyramids, all over the place and you dont know until it is to late.
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                                            • bigkahunabuz
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 10-12-12
                                              • 48

                                              #23
                                              This is so not professional for offshore books to operate. Think I"ll continue penny action until things start to look up. Can"t help but be cautious. Theres always "VEGAS"
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                                              • DudleyDawson
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-10-12
                                                • 5658

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by touchback
                                                This is exactly what half the services are doing... if all customers pulled out of most of these places at the same time they would be unable to pay... pyramids, all over the place and you dont know until it is to late.
                                                This is what I've always suspected as well....great big kiting rings. Probably got the idea from the Federal Gov.
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                                                • YPS
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 08-20-12
                                                  • 111

                                                  #25
                                                  Day 8:
                                                  After BO denied to pay via wire i requested a 8k Moneybookers payout today.
                                                  Lets see how this works
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                                                  • RonPaul2008
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-08-07
                                                    • 6741

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by YPS
                                                    Day 8:
                                                    After BO denied to pay via wire i requested a 8k Moneybookers payout today.
                                                    Lets see how this works
                                                    Why was a wire denied?
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                                                    • YPS
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 08-20-12
                                                      • 111

                                                      #27
                                                      Day 10:

                                                      This book is amazing.

                                                      After BOL rejected my payout request via wire 7 days ago, they now rejected my current Moneybookers payout request and offer me a wire payout

                                                      BOL email from 11-22:
                                                      This is Dicky Curtis from Betonline,
                                                      Thank you for your payout request. We apologize for the inconvenience but your payout has been cancelled as you have not send the required documentation and the payout method requested is unfortunately not available. (this was my wire request)

                                                      BOL email from 11-29:
                                                      This is Joel from player Services at Betonline.
                                                      I hope you are enjoying a fine day. I need to inform you that unfortunately we are experiencing delays on the Skrill payout method and to offer a better service we are giving you the opportunity of a replacement on your payout into a wire, we would like to know if you agree with this.
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                                                      • Spedizzo
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-16-11
                                                        • 1557

                                                        #28
                                                        SBR? Comment?

                                                        Wasn't BetOnline the same book that publically wanted to take Mayweather's 1 million dollar bet? Can't payout this guy 15k?
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                                                        • YPS
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 08-20-12
                                                          • 111

                                                          #29
                                                          Day 11:

                                                          The wire BOL offered me yesterday now was cancelled again.
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                                                          • slash
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 1000

                                                            #30
                                                            Haha, too funny!!


                                                            Originally posted by YPS
                                                            Day 11:

                                                            The wire BOL offered me yesterday now was cancelled again.
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                                                            • princecharles
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 11-22-10
                                                              • 827

                                                              #31
                                                              Is this story legit??

                                                              Bill where are you????
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                                                              • slash
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-10-05
                                                                • 1000

                                                                #32
                                                                Better wait for Lou. He surely has the true (BOL's) version of this predicament....


                                                                Originally posted by princecharles
                                                                Is this story legit??

                                                                Bill where are you????
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                                                                • YPS
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 08-20-12
                                                                  • 111

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by princecharles
                                                                  Is this story legit??
                                                                  It is.
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                                                                  • Miz
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 08-30-09
                                                                    • 695

                                                                    #34
                                                                    This is really discouraging. Thank you for taking the time to share your story, thus saving others the same frustration you're experiencing. I considered using this book and depositing a large sum (large to me anyway), and will now stay away. I wanted to take advantage of the fact that they release CBB totals on every game. They are the only book I know of that does this. The slow pay / no pay stories make this even more perplexing. CBB totals are notoriously soft, yet they expose themselves to every game on the board at 9:45 AM Daily. Bookmaker and pinny don't even do that. If they can't pay people, it is even more alarming that they'd take on the additional risk. Maybe they immediately limit people, but it is troubling all together. Best of luck YPS.
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                                                                    • Miz
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 08-30-09
                                                                      • 695

                                                                      #35
                                                                      To add to my previous post. With all the rumors of their financial trouble, a no-pay scam or ponzi is the only explanation I can come up with for taking on the additional risk in a soft market. Any way to attract larger bettors, to deposit, and fund the troubled business. I am sure there are people who will say, "they're good to go, I got paid". Everyone is rock solid until they're not.
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